I always wondered what was happening in Venezuela...well now I have my answer.
Which commie democrat is going to come out against this coup that is supposedly underway in Venezuela....?
We know the coup against President Trump failed so Comey, Clapper, and Brennan along with president hopeful Bernie.
A coup is underway in Venezuela!
here appears to be a coup attempt underway in Venezuela right now, as US backed interim president Juan Guaido has called on the country to get behind him and overthrow Maduro. Rival factions of the military are fighting in the streets as Maduro tries to put down this coup attempt.
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https://therightscoop.com/a-coup-is-underway-in-venezuela/
It's about time...
Quote from: Bronx on April 30, 2019, 07:01:46 AM
I always wondered what was happening in Venezuela...well now I have my answer.
Which commie democrat is going to come out against this coup that is supposedly underway in Venezuela....?
We know the coup against President Trump failed so Comey, Clapper, and Brennan along with president hopeful Bernie.
A coup is underway in Venezuela!
here appears to be a coup attempt underway in Venezuela right now, as US backed interim president Juan Guaido has called on the country to get behind him and overthrow Maduro. Rival factions of the military are fighting in the streets as Maduro tries to put down this coup attempt.
READ MORE....
https://therightscoop.com/a-coup-is-underway-in-venezuela/
Good point. I would not be surprised if democrats get lock jaw over this issue.
Totally Cool! Glad it finally came to a head. Looks like Maduro is on the defensive in all of this and will find himself being airlifted out by Russia in the end, as his last remaining stronghold collapses and the troops surrender without firing a shot.
Quote from: Solar on April 30, 2019, 08:27:33 AM
Totally Cool! Glad it finally came to a head. Looks like Maduro is on the defensive in all of this and will find himself being airlifted out by Russia in the end, as his last remaining stronghold collapses and the troops surrender without firing a shot.
Let's hope you are correct. It is very important that Putin be rejected in his effort to gain influence in the area.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 30, 2019, 09:13:36 AM
Let's hope you are correct. It is very important that Putin be rejected in his effort to gain influence in the area.
I'm pretty certain they wouldn't have moved forward with a coup, if they weren't certain they could win.
I've no doubt Trump has a hand in this, killing socialism is his goal, pointing out failed socialism and all the damage it did to Venezuela is like driving a stake through every leftists so called heart.
Looking bad for Maduro, military refuse to fire on civilians.
Maduro has shutdown CNN and BBC cable connection.
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https://venezuela.liveuamap.com/
Live video feed. I watched it for some time and I have to say, if these soldiers are representative of the rest of Maduro's might, he's in big trouble, these guys have zero training, like watching kids playing army.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/venezuela-guaido-final-phase-maduro-1.5116327
Edit: Live stream just ended, but will be back up soon, check in later.
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Indication was @NicolasMaduro was ready to give up his post this morning but Russia convinced him to stay, says @SecPompeo.
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Pompeo tells CNN that Maduro "was on his way to Havana." He refuses to reveal details of the operation he explains existed to get Maduro out of Venezuela.
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Pompeo to CNN: The US military is able to meet the desire of the president if he chose the military option in dealing with Venezuela
But I thought Trump was Putin's puppet?
Quote from: taxed on April 30, 2019, 06:24:21 PM
But I thought Trump was Putin's puppet?
Looks like the Russians had a woke moment, or rather, Trump made them think twice. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Solar on April 30, 2019, 07:04:57 PM
Looks like the Russians had a woke moment, or rather, Trump made them think twice. :thumbsup:
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Quote from: taxed on May 01, 2019, 11:15:39 AM
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We know Guiado is winning this, or he'd have accepted Pompeo's offer of US military intervention. He knows he won't need it, and Cuba is high tailing it out of there.
Read between the lines. :biggrin:
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Dunford:
"We're obviously watching the situation very closely in Venezuela, the President has made it clear that all options are on the table,/////// to date most of our options have been diplomatic and economic."
https://conservativehardliner.com/trump-goes-twofer-knocking-cubas-socialist-dictatorship-out-along-venezuelas
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U.S. Acting Sec. Def.: Not surprising that China, Russia, Cuba, and Iran recognize Nicolás Maduro as his is an issue of freedom vs. tyranny. Echoing @POTUS, we're considering all options in support of the Venezuelan people.
Whats in it for us? If we're going to send US SPecial forces or what have you into Vz then what do we get in return? I want something more than good feeling and ousting a deserving Commie rat like Maduro who is responsible for smuggling tons and tons of dope into the US, yeah he should get the axe on G.P's.
Somehow I think Trump is the guy to arrange something to OUR benefit from supporting Guido....like most favored nation with cheap Vz oil
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on May 01, 2019, 06:32:51 PM
Whats in it for us? If we're going to send US SPecial forces or what have you into Vz then what do we get in return? I want something more than good feeling and ousting a deserving Commie rat like Maduro who is responsible for smuggling tons and tons of dope into the US, yeah he should get the axe on G.P's.
Somehow I think Trump is the guy to arrange something to OUR benefit from supporting Guido....like most favored nation with cheap Vz oil
Yep, that, and sending a message to South America that we're done screwing around, they better start cooperating. Also, Putin just got bitch slapped and Cuba? Well, that's an entirely separate chapter..
Quote from: Solar on May 01, 2019, 08:55:32 PM
Yep, that, and sending a message to South America that we're done screwing around, they better start cooperating. Also, Putin just got bitch slapped and Cuba? Well, that's an entirely separate chapter..
If one listens to Pompeo and Bolton it would appear Colombia and possibly Brazil would supply the forces with American support.
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 02, 2019, 04:32:54 AM
If one listens to Pompeo and Bolton it would appear Colombia and possibly Brazil would supply the forces with American support.
Looks like time is running out for Maduro, because as you pointed out, neighboring countries can't absorb anymore people, Brazil alone just took in 60 thousand,
And over night a young girl died from a bullet wound to the head, so this isn't going to sit well at all.
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Jurubith Rausseo Garcia Betzabeth, 27, was shot in the skull with firearm, and was transferred to Clinica el Avila. She died tonight at 8PM
Russia's FM says phone call with US Secretary of State Pompeo about Venezuela had elements of the surreal
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Meeting of The Permanent Council of the Organization of American States (OAS) begins, to discus presence of Cuba and Russia in Venezuela
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Russia will create a group of countries to counter military intervention in Venezuela, it is already being formed in the UN - Lavrov
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Caracas: 14-year-old Yoifre Jesus Hernández Vásquez has succumbed of his wounds in the Ávila clinic after being shot in Altamira during the protest on 1st May
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AFP: More than 60 thousand Venezuelans have entered Brazil so far in 2019.
.@realDonaldTrump to Fox Business: The next steps against Maduro are "devastating".
Venezuela Supreme Court in exile requested the international community to apply the R2P and stop the genocide in Venezuela through an international military coalition on a peace mission.
Quote from: Solar on May 01, 2019, 08:55:32 PM
Yep, that, and sending a message to South America that we're done screwing around, they better start cooperating. Also, Putin just got bitch slapped and Cuba? Well, that's an entirely separate chapter..
I dont want to shoot the place up to install this Guido guy and have him crawfish and suck up to the commies and Iran, thats usually what happens with these hankie crotch third world assholes, I dont think Trump will let us get played but what happens in the future?
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on May 02, 2019, 04:32:59 PM
I dont want to shoot the place up to install this Guido guy and have him crawfish and suck up to the commies and Iran, thats usually what happens with these hankie crotch third world assholes, I dont think Trump will let us get played but what happens in the future?
The bigger threat is doing nothing. Syria and Russia would love a highway into South America, which is why they are backing Maduro and China as well.
I think this thing can be solved without military intervention as Trump is playing cards against Russia and I think Putin will blink, but if that doesn't happen, there are still the neighboring countries of which do not want a refugee crisis, they might be persuaded to use force.
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@SecPompeo says it is "morally correct" not to rule out the use of American military force in Venezuela if all other options fail.
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Maduro: "It's time for a rectification, we're going to cut off the head of anyone who has to be cut"
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John Bolton:Maduro is undermining the Constitution and territorial integrity of Venezuela by allowing foreign countries to arm 'colectivos' and repress innocent Venezuelans. The Venezuela military's role in Venezuela's transition to democracy is vital – it must protect the people of Venezuela.
This is turning into the worlds longest coup.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 02, 2019, 06:51:19 PM
This is turning into the worlds longest coup.
But can one actually call it a coup? A coup is an illegal act of overtaking a govt. Maduro purportedly stole the election, as in coup, and the people are demanding a new election, or that he step down and allow the real President elect to take over.
This is what I've been reading in posts written by the people. If all they're asking for is a monitored election, then he should give them one and end this.
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@JulioBorges reports the start of the preparatory meeting for the Lima Group plenary. He affirms that they have a proposal of "forceful measures" so that the region exerts even more pressure against Maduro, his "family and front men".
I hate commies but we should butt out of VE. The US will get blamed for everything bad forever. 1/3 of VE strongly supports Maduro because they are morons. They deserve him. VE serves as a good example for many.
VE invited some Russians and Chinese in which is their right. The Russian missles are defensive AA missiles delivered years ago. Not our problem as long as we do not have warplanes flying over.
The wannabe president never got elected to anything. Plus, I think he is a socialist as well.
Quote from: patentlymn on May 03, 2019, 10:15:07 AM
I hate commies but we should butt out of VE. The US will get blamed for everything bad forever. 1/3 of VE strongly supports Maduro because they are morons. They deserve him. VE serves as a good example for many.
VE invited some Russians and Chinese in which is their right. The Russian missles are defensive AA missiles delivered years ago. Not our problem as long as we do not have warplanes flying over.
The wannabe president never got elected to anything. Plus, I think he is a socialist as well.
These are the same people who blame Trump for hurricanes. I don't think we're NOT going to get blamed for stuff, whether we're involved or not... and to the point, we don't let those fucktards (libs, MSM) dictate our actions.
Quote from: patentlymn on May 03, 2019, 10:15:07 AM
I hate commies but we should butt out of VE. The US will get blamed for everything bad forever. 1/3 of VE strongly supports Maduro because they are morons. They deserve him. VE serves as a good example for many.
VE invited some Russians and Chinese in which is their right. The Russian missles are defensive AA missiles delivered years ago. Not our problem as long as we do not have warplanes flying over.
The wannabe president never got elected to anything. Plus, I think he is a socialist as well.
Do we really want China/Russia/Syria developing a commie/muscum stronghold in our backyard? That is the question that should be addressed as we move forward and not turn a blind eye like Obozo did.
Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2019, 10:45:25 AM
Do we really want China/Russia/Syria developing a commie/muscum stronghold in our backyard? That is the question that should be addressed as we move forward and not turn a blind eye like Obozo did.
:thumbup: we should have been shipping weapons in weeks ago
Hopefully we did
Quote from: s3779m on May 03, 2019, 10:48:13 AM
:thumbup: we should have been shipping weapons in weeks ago
Hopefully we did
:biggrin:
I was thinking the same thing. What do ya bet, we did? A simple stealth drone drop could supply dozens of fighters, a hundred drops could arm an army.
Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2019, 10:45:25 AM
Do we really want China/Russia/Syria developing a commie/muscum stronghold in our backyard? That is the question that should be addressed as we move forward and not turn a blind eye like Obozo did.
Agreed. Ignoring the issue as not a problem will only enable the bad actors to keep pushing the envelope.
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 03, 2019, 11:16:50 AM
Agreed. Ignoring the issue as not a problem will only enable the bad actors to keep pushing the envelope.
Yep, the last thing we need is Muscum on our Southern border, it's bad enough they're in Congress.
I'm not too concerned about troops in VZ, they are not necessary considering we have a CIA that can arm the good guys fighting the communists.
I also don't think Trump would resort to war, he's no McStain warmongering type, he's proven this when he wanted to pull out of the M/E.
Russia, China, Cuba, Syria, all are suffering serious long term recessions while we're experiencing the biggest boom in US history so it's doubtful they'll stand their ground rather than suffer the wrath of Trump on the open mkt. where trade is essential to their very existence.
Cooler heads will persevere and they'll take Maduro to a new country to live out his time. No one wants a trade war with the US at this time.
It's amazing how many in the media seem to be pro-Maduro.... and pro-Putin all of a sudden.
Quote from: taxed on May 03, 2019, 12:55:11 PM
It's amazing how many in the media seem to be pro-Maduro.... and pro-Putin all of a sudden.
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It is amazing, isn't it? Hard to believe they hate the US so much, that they'll side with the enemy to bring her down.
Oh, get a load of this. I'm debating the author of an article that claims:
The U.S. is a Democratic Constitutional Republic, and Yes, It Mattershttps://www.justfactsdaily.com/the-u-s-is-a-democratic-constitutional-republic-and-yes-it-matters/#comment-350901
Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2019, 01:29:55 PM
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It is amazing, isn't it? Hard to believe they hate the US so much, that they'll side with the enemy to bring her down.
Oh, get a load of this. I'm debating the author of an article that claims:
The U.S. is a Democratic Constitutional Republic, and Yes, It Matters
https://www.justfactsdaily.com/the-u-s-is-a-democratic-constitutional-republic-and-yes-it-matters/#comment-350901
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
He sounds like one of those guys who wants to get rid of the electoral college.
We ca arm all the expatriated "refugee's" hidig out i Brazil we wat or drop arms to Guerilla "freedom fighters" asd it don;t mean Jack....you'll get a protracted civil war in which the Ruskies will brutalize the hell out of people and things will drag on.
The best thing that can happen here is a MAJOR PROTIOn of the Military has to turn,not only on Maduro but on the russians
Quote from: taxed on May 03, 2019, 01:46:55 PM
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He sounds like one of those guys who wants to get rid of the electoral college.
Oooh! Good point, I'll nail that to his ass next post. :thumbup:
Things are heating up rapidly in VZ, ambushes, helicopter crashes etc, the more people fight back, the more pressure the country puts on them. Looks like it's heading toward a full on civil war if something doesn't change fast.
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Lavrov, with Arreaza: The Security Council is needed for a military intervention in Venezuela
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Venezuelan Constituent Assembly will lift immunity to deputies who supported "failed insurrection"
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Trump didn't tell Putin by phone about U.S. plans to use military scenario in Venezuela - Lavrov
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Pompeo warns Maduro that "he is not someone who can be part of the future of Venezuela":
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Pompeo: "Whether it's China or Russia, you have Iranians on the ground in Venezuela we know about the long history with a couple of thousand Cuban thugs essentially controlling that country today. The United States wants all other countries out of this nation."
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Sec. Pompeo on Venezuela: "If you think about where this country was 90 days ago, the Venezuelan people should be very proud. They're much closer to having democracy restored."
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KCNA: "We condemn all of the attempts for removing the legitimately elected president of Venezuela and interfering in its internal affairs as a challenge to international justice and a flagrant violation of international law."
Venezuela's President Maduro tells armed forces to be 'ready' in case of US attack
Quote from: Solar on May 05, 2019, 02:25:53 PM
Things are heating up rapidly in VZ, ambushes, helicopter crashes etc, the more people fight back, the more pressure the country puts on them. Looks like it's heading toward a full on civil war if something doesn't change fast.
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Lavrov, with Arreaza: The Security Council is needed for a military intervention in Venezuela
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Venezuelan Constituent Assembly will lift immunity to deputies who supported "failed insurrection"
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Trump didn't tell Putin by phone about U.S. plans to use military scenario in Venezuela - Lavrov
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Pompeo warns Maduro that "he is not someone who can be part of the future of Venezuela":
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Pompeo: "Whether it's China or Russia, you have Iranians on the ground in Venezuela we know about the long history with a couple of thousand Cuban thugs essentially controlling that country today. The United States wants all other countries out of this nation."
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Sec. Pompeo on Venezuela: "If you think about where this country was 90 days ago, the Venezuelan people should be very proud. They're much closer to having democracy restored."
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KCNA: "We condemn all of the attempts for removing the legitimately elected president of Venezuela and interfering in its internal affairs as a challenge to international justice and a flagrant violation of international law."
Venezuela's President Maduro tells armed forces to be 'ready' in case of US attack
CIVIL WAR ?
One side had better hurry up and GET SOME GUNS.
Quote from: Rotwang on May 05, 2019, 05:21:44 PM
CIVIL WAR ?
One side had better hurry up and GET SOME GUNS.
They already captured one of, if not the biggest, armories in the country and a general in the process.
Russia better be careful, this part of the hemisphere is not conducive for their influence.
VZ is quickly going to discover they are alone in the world.
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The meeting between Lavrov and Pompeo begins in Rovaniemi, Finland.
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Arreaza announced they will continue to deliver Venezuela territory to Russia for exploitation: "We will witness how Russia produces more oil in Venezuela, in the Orinoco Belt, Russia will have all the conditions to increase oil production in Venezuela," he said from Moscow
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Jorge Arreaza said that during his trip to Moscow he exchanged "intelligence information". He said that Russian spokesmen have warned about alleged military training and arms presence in Colombia.
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Bernal says does not want to challenge the US, but threatened Colombia: "Our Sukhoi would arrive in Bogotá in 10 minutes
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Venezuelan Foreign Minister: Possibly increase the number of Russian military in Venezuela
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Venezuela: Venezuelan Foreign Minister: Caracas will respond if the United States decides to launch a military operation against it
The president has to win the support of the American people before he does much more than we have done with sanctions.
The Democrats will side with the propaganda of Russia, Iran and China if Trump does what we'd all like him to do. Even if enough Dems support him, they will use his actions as a cudgel against him in the 2020 election, just as they did with the Iraq War when most of the Dems voted for it.
The smart move may very well be to continue to put economic pressure on Russia, China, Iran and Cuba.
If we lose the Presidency, the US may go socialist and eventually we become Venezuela.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/democrats-split-in-responses-to-venezuela-crisis/
BTW, Juan Guaidó is a Socialist, while Mudero is a full blown Communist Dictator. The people of Venezuela are socialists who are not likely to turn away from wanting the government to take care of them. They just don't like it under this Dictator! We must proceed with caution. In many ways, the people of Venezuela are reaping what they have sewn, just as we will if we allow our nation to elect a Marxist who call themselves a Democrat Socialist. The threat of socialism in our own country on the eve of a national election makes foreign intervention pretty dicey. The President could certainly "be more flexible after the election" but it's a long time until November! (2020)
Quote from: wally on May 06, 2019, 09:47:47 AM
The president has to win the support of the American people before he does much more than we have done with sanctions.
The Democrats will side with the propaganda of Russia, Iran and China if Trump does what we'd all like him to do. Even if enough Dems support him, they will use his actions as a cudgel against him in the 2020 election, just as they did with the Iraq War when most of the Dems voted for it.
The smart move may very well be to continue to put economic pressure on Russia, China, Iran and Cuba.
That's exactly what is going on and why Pompeo is meeting with his Russian counterpart, to explain to the Russians why this isn't in their best interests. :biggrin:
QuoteIf we lose the Presidency, the US may go socialist and eventually we become Venezuela.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/democrats-split-in-responses-to-venezuela-crisis/
BTW, Juan Guaidó is a Socialist, while Mudero is a full blown Communist Dictator. The people of Venezuela are socialists who are not likely to turn away from wanting the government to take care of them. They just don't like it under this Dictator! We must proceed with caution. In many ways, the people of Venezuela are reaping what they have sewn, just as we will if we allow our nation to elect a Marxist who call themselves a Democrat Socialist. The threat of socialism in our own country on the eve of a national election makes foreign intervention pretty dicey. The President could certainly "be more flexible after the election" but it's a long time until November! (2020)
I disagree, VZ was one of the richest countries in the world, their experience with socialism if far shorter than that of the US, most remember what it was like to have electricity, running water, jobs, etc.
That's the world they want back, not an oppressive govt placing strings and conditions on everything they do in their daily lives.
And yes, Guiado is a socialist, but that is no guarantee he will institute the old rule, sometimes it's better to step aside and let the water takes its natural path. He will look like a genius if he allows life to follow a natural path.
Quote from: Solar on May 06, 2019, 10:05:44 AM
That's exactly what is going on and why Pompeo is meeting with his Russian counterpart, to explain to the Russians why this isn't in their best interests. :biggrin:
I disagree, VZ was one of the richest countries in the world, their experience with socialism if far shorter than that of the US, most remember what it was like to have electricity, running water, jobs, etc.
That's the world they want back, not an oppressive govt placing strings and conditions on everything they do in their daily lives.
And yes, Guiado is a socialist, but that is no guarantee he will institute the old rule, sometimes it's better to step aside and let the water takes its natural path. He will look like a genius if he allows life to follow a natural path.
I'm only urging caution. Hell, in my gut and in my heart, I think we should have finished what we began in the Bay of Pigs, but JFK didn't have the stomach for.
We have never made out very well in any of our efforts in central and south America. A lot of those who back us and are on our side become brutal gangsters and thugs. The people recoil towards the Left. Even our wayward Pope knows what his people are like down there. What he doesn't understand is the difference between American capitalism and Central And South American right wing capitalism. Their history and their culture is very different than our and sometimes political concepts, like words, may have two meanings.
In the end, the only way people become more like us, is if they have a similar history, Our history had not only a revolution, but a civil war, It helped define the issues for our ancestors and their children. We can not become 'helicopter parents' for fledgling democracies. That doesn't mean we can't help them, but the fight is mostly theirs and far to often we make these fights ours.
Quote from: wally on May 06, 2019, 10:50:51 AM
I'm only urging caution. Hell, in my gut and in my heart, I think we should have finished what we began in the Bay of Pigs, but JFK didn't have the stomach for.
We have never made out very well in any of our efforts in central and south America. A lot of those who back us and are on our side become brutal gangsters and thugs. The people recoil towards the Left. Even our wayward Pope knows what his people are like down there. What he doesn't understand is the difference between American capitalism and Central And South American right wing capitalism. Their history and their culture is very different than our and sometimes political concepts, like words, may have two meanings.
In the end, the only way people become more like us, is if they have a similar history, Our history had not only a revolution, but a civil war, It helped define the issues for our ancestors and their children. We can not become 'helicopter parents' for fledgling democracies. That doesn't mean we can't help them, but the fight is mostly theirs and far to often we make these fights ours.
My point was, we don't need to be their in the physical, rather we are dealing with this issue in an external matter. Iran, Russia, Cuba and China are interfering in South America, Right?
Now, look at trump's economic policies towards Russia, China and Cuba, the very thing that scares the shit out of them, then there's Iran and the straight of Hormuz and their threat to close it, this divides Russian support for Iran.
Point being, Trump is playing a serious game of "Corner the Rat" and winning. China will do as Trump demands to get these sudden tariffs dropped, which means they put pressure on Russia. Cuba can't afford a blockade on trade because Russia still foots the Bill for their very existence and Russia can't afford to keep the commie regime afloat.
I do not read opinion pieces, they will always make you miss the bigger picture.
Quote from: Solar on May 06, 2019, 11:13:14 AM
My point was, we don't need to be their in the physical, rather we are dealing with this issue in an external matter. Iran, Russia, Cuba and China are interfering in South America, Right?
Now, look at trump's economic policies towards Russia, China and Cuba, the very thing that scares the shit out of them, then there's Iran and the straight of Hormuz and their threat to close it, this divides Russian support for Iran.
Point being, Trump is playing a serious game of "Corner the Rat" and winning. China will do as Trump demands to get these sudden tariffs dropped, which means they put pressure on Russia. Cuba can't afford a blockade on trade because Russia still foots the Bill for their very existence and Russia can't afford to keep the commie regime afloat.
I do not read opinion pieces, they will always make you miss the bigger picture.
We seem to be on the same page. I do think there are some who would like us to go in there and clean the rats out, as Reagan did in Grenada. President Trump is playing 3D chess and he is looking to put external pressure on those hostile state actors that are creating these proxy flash points of this new cold war. At a certain point they will see it is in their best own interests to pull out of Venezuela. They also may decide propping up Syria and N. Korea to finger f**k with Trump is not worth the punishment of sanctions and undeclared economic warfare that Team Trump is leveraging against them.
Quote from: wally on May 06, 2019, 01:09:21 PM
We seem to be on the same page. I do think there are some who would like us to go in there and clean the rats out, as Reagan did in Grenada. President Trump is playing 3D chess and he is looking to put external pressure on those hostile state actors that are creating these proxy flash points of this new cold war. At a certain point they will see it is in their best own interests to pull out of Venezuela. They also may decide propping up Syria and N. Korea to finger f**k with Trump is not worth the punishment of sanctions and undeclared economic warfare that Team Trump is leveraging against them.
Good description, "New Cold War", and as usual, it is being fought by proxy. I couldn't ask for a more level headed leader to take these scum on.
Quote from: Solar on May 06, 2019, 01:14:11 PM
Good description, "New Cold War", and as usual, it is being fought by proxy. I couldn't ask for a more level headed leader to take these scum on.
We, the oldsters, need to educate the youngsters about the lessons learned during the first cold war. It's all about alliances and spheres of influence and proxies being used as flash points which may escalate into armed conflict. It's a global game of whack a mole! Just deciding not to play is not a winning strategy, since it leaves a power vacuum, which sucks in evildoers (or whatever you want to call our adversaries who are potential enemies)
Quote from: wally on May 06, 2019, 04:00:37 PM
We, the oldsters, need to educate the youngsters about the lessons learned during the first cold war. It's all about alliances and spheres of influence and proxies being used as flash points which may escalate into armed conflict. It's a global game of whack a mole! Just deciding not to play is not a winning strategy, since it leaves a power vacuum, which sucks in evildoers (or whatever you want to call our adversaries who are potential enemies)
Exactly!!
The world is full of evil people, simply walking away and ignoring a problem tells our foes we're cowards and they can pretty much do as they please.
Trump is taking them head on and by the dozens. :thumbup:
Quote from: wally on May 06, 2019, 04:00:37 PM
We, the oldsters, need to educate the youngsters about the lessons learned during the first cold war. It's all about alliances and spheres of influence and proxies being used as flash points which may escalate into armed conflict. It's a global game of whack a mole! Just deciding not to play is not a winning strategy, since it leaves a power vacuum, which sucks in evildoers (or whatever you want to call our adversaries who are potential enemies)
You make a good point about us old farts. That's why I've kept this thread updated, to educate. There are a lot of young people out there completely clueless as to how the world works.
After 8 years of war under Obozo, an entire generation might grow weary and want to play LIBertarian and pull our troops back home and close the door. Nothing could be worse for the country, abandoning our allies.
Sadly, the US is it, there is no other Nation on earth that's willing to make the communists back off and leave peaceful Nations alone. I hate it, but that's just the way it is.
The former Cold War KGB Field Agent (Spy) and Head of the KGB wants to regain the power of the former Soviet Union. He is using kleptocracy and croany capitalism, similar to how the Communist Chinese have been successfully pretending to be capitalist, while they are committed, Godless, evil Communists! Putin could change his nation back to being Communist with the stroke of his pen. Perhaps, when they have enough power, that is the plan!
I can't stop remembering the Comintern and the international May Day celebrations, both in Communists States and in overt demonstrations of solidarity with one world communism, in western democracies.
Perhaps, all that's changed is not the movement for one world communism, but the means to achieve that end. Commies now pretend to be something other than who and what they are.
In spite of their differences, China and Russia are a whole lot alike and the enemies of their enemies are their friends! World Wars happen with such evil alliances!
Quote from: wally on May 07, 2019, 08:57:24 AM
The former Cold War KGB Field Agent (Spy) and Head of the KGB wants to regain the power of the former Soviet Union. He is using kleptocracy and croany capitalism, similar to how the Communist Chinese have been successfully pretending to be capitalist, while they are committed, Godless, evil Communists! Putin could change his nation back to being Communist with the stroke of his pen. Perhaps, when they have enough power, that is the plan!
I can't stop remembering the Comintern and the international May Day celebrations, both in Communists States and in overt demonstrations of solidarity with one world communism, in western democracies.
Perhaps, all that's changed is not the movement for one world communism, but the means to achieve that end. Commies now pretend to be something other than who and what they are.
In spite of their differences, China and Russia are a whole lot alike and the enemies of their enemies are their friends! World Wars happen with such evil alliances!
"Commies now pretend to be something other than who and what they are. "
Amazing how today's democrats mirror this description.
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