40 Years Ago, Dim Jim Jones Suicide Pact 900

Started by Solar, November 19, 2018, 04:51:20 PM

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Solar

Hard to believe it's been that long, keep in mind, the leftist Dims loved this commie in the Bay Area.



Jonestown Massacre: 40th Anniversary of Jim Jones' 'Revolutionary Suicide' for Communism

Clearly, many did not want to die. Fifteen people left Jonestown with Congressman Leo Ryan and a smaller party of eleven fled earlier in the day under the guise of holding a picnic. But just four people out of more than 900 present when the killings started managed to escape or evade the suicide ritual (Jones allowed his lawyers, radical cause celebre attorneys Mark Lane and Charles Garry, and a trio tasked with bringing the Temple's money to the Soviet embassy to leave). Every other adult, except Miller, does not object on the tape to the group's assigned fate. And even Miller, who offers migration to the Soviet Union as an alternative to mass suicide, ultimately ceases her lengthy argument and yields to her master.

"I just want to say something to everyone that I see that is standing around and are crying," one communard announces on the death tape. "This is nothing to cry about. This is something we should all rejoice about."

Another woman exclaims, "It's been a pleasure walking with all of you in this revolutionary struggle. No other way I would rather go than to give my life for Socialism, Communism, and I thank Dad very, very much."

The few eyewitnesses to survive supported this characterization of Temple members willingly drinking grape Flavor-Aid laced with valium and cyanide.

"He didn't force nobody as far as my knowing," Grover Cleveland Davis, an elderly African American who hid in a ditch, noted at the time, "and I didn't see him shooting nobody with no needles, and I didn't hear nobody say they wasn't willing to take suicide shots. They were willing to do it."

But archers and gunmen surrounded. The knowledge that Jones's Red Brigade shot Temple members who opted to leave with Congressman Leo Ryan on an airstrip outside of the community surely influenced matters. The dreadful conditions in the jungle—overworked, underfed, deprived of sleep, and barraged by Jones's incessant propaganda—surely altered decision making, such as it existed in Jonestown on an individual level.

Rather than an act of nihilism, Jones masked mass suicide as an act of idealism, a sacrifice for the higher purpose of giving glory to Communism—a characterization that surely made the poison more potable to the hardened ideologues. And for three years prior to the carnage, Jones conditioned his followers through suicide dry runs that resulted in those initially informed of their imminent deaths surviving the acid tests. In Jonestown, the conditioning came in the form of "white nights," staged sieges by invisible forces on the edges of the community.

"Everybody's there," Mike Carter, who survived because Jones tasked him to take money to the Soviet embassy, explained to me of "white nights" in an interview for Cult City: Jim Jones, Harvey Milk, and 10 Days That Shook San Francisco. "There's a lot of ranting and raving and the world's coming to an end. There was definitely a lot of Jim going off on tangents. You just wanted it to end."

"People in San Francisco will not, not be idle over this, and not take our death in vain," Jones insisted on the macabre recording.

But Mayor George Moscone, Supervisor Harvey Milk, Assemblyman Willie Brown, Congressman Phil Burton, and other power players who elevated Jones's stature in San Francisco ran from him in the aftermath of Jonestown. Everyone regarded the mass suicide as an act of surrender, not of revolt.


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/18/daniel-flynn-jonestown-massacre-40th-anniversary-of-jim-jones-revolutionary-suicide-for-communism/
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The scope of Jone's outreach was incredible. The way he was able to convince people to join his cult and give up all their lives and possessions is nothing short of a horrifying Maricle. His ideas of a perfect society fell very short and resulted in the deaths of hundreds of people yet the fact that he is still looked upon in a high regard by people in the bay area is a big concern.

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Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2018, 06:49:42 PM
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. I hope.

Pelosi reminiscences  about Jonestown and thinks about the possibilities.

Billy's bayonet

Didn't somebody shoot Harvey Milk over this? Didn't that prompt riots in SF coz Milk was Gay and the Gay community there saw it as an attack on them or something?  I'm going from memory here and if memory serves me correctly there was little discussion of the fact that Jim Jones was a commie....the narritive from the Fake news was "He is a religious Nut"
Evil operates best when under a disguise

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WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

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Quote from: ConservativeInCT on November 19, 2018, 05:56:07 PM
The scope of Jone's outreach was incredible. The way he was able to convince people to join his cult and give up all their lives and possessions is nothing short of a horrifying Maricle. His ideas of a perfect society fell very short and resulted in the deaths of hundreds of people yet the fact that he is still looked upon in a high regard by people in the bay area is a big concern.


Hare Krishna's in the US do the same thing and with much higher numbers.
Evil operates best when under a disguise

WHEN A CRIME GOES UNPUNISHED THE WORLD IS UNBALANCED

WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

IMPEACH BIDEN

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Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 20, 2018, 05:13:32 AM
Didn't somebody shoot Harvey Milk over this? Didn't that prompt riots in SF coz Milk was Gay and the Gay community there saw it as an attack on them or something?  I'm going from memory here and if memory serves me correctly there was little discussion of the fact that Jim Jones was a commie....the narritive from the Fake news was "He is a religious Nut"
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Let's ignore the elephant in the room, communist, and spin it so everyone focuses on the poor little fag, we'll martyr him with a convention center. Remember the Twinkie defense? They made that out to be far bigger than a Dim killing 900 constituents.
Leftists never let a crisis go to waste.
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Quote from: taxed on November 20, 2018, 07:59:50 AM
He was basically a community organizer with poison Kool Aid.
That's a perfect description of all Marxist community organizers,  Poison Kool aid.
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