California WTF was you guys thinking when voting in these shitheads. I would love to hear from the California trolls.

California you guys are messed up in the head really, really bad, except for you Solar......

EDITORIAL: One law for us, another for you.
California's legislative hypocrisy a failure of democracy

The California state Senate voted 28-8 Wednesday to exempt itself from the pointless gun-control laws that apply to the rest of the populace. Legislators apparently think they alone are worthy to pack heat on the streets for personal protection, and the masses ought to wait until the police arrive.

READ MORE...........while you scratch your head wondering WTF.

http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/6/one-law-for-us-another-for-you/#.UZ6dDB4Uln4.twitter

I thought that states rights were what it is all about.  California will get what they want.  Total misfuncion.

Quote from: simpsonofpg on May 24, 2013, 04:01:43 PM
I thought that states rights were what it is all about.  California will get what they want.  Total misfuncion.

I think it has to do with the fact that a significant portion of California's population came from Mexico and Central America where laws such as this are the norm.

They're used to having their politicians being self-serving and corrupt!

-Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on May 24, 2013, 04:10:30 PM
I think it has to do with the fact that a significant portion of California's population came from Mexico and Central America where laws such as this are the norm.

They're used to having their politicians being self-serving and corrupt!

-Darth

This is just like our congress:  We have a great health care plan for you called Obamacare and you will love it.  By the way we have our own plan so don't worry about us.

Quote from: simpsonofpg on May 26, 2013, 05:08:35 PM
This is just like our congress:  We have a great health care plan for you called Obamacare and you will love it.  By the way we have our own plan so don't worry about us.

Oh, that's not even new. For GENERATIONS -- until 1983 -- members of Congress did not participate in Social Security, that whiz-bang Ponzi scheme that is to this day sacrosanct and untouchable. It is the sine qua non for the ordinary folk, but "just not quite what we want" for the upper echelons.

SS started in 1935, for the LIVs out there.

I have always said this! It's not a California thing only but a liberal thing. Most laws are for us commoners not them. Just look at this most open administration ever, YOU must pay your taxes they don't have to, they the loudest of all when it comes to gun control have ARMED protection us commoners NO.

Quote from: The Stranger on May 27, 2013, 03:54:49 AM
It's not a California thing only but a liberal thing. Most laws are for us commoners not them.

I agree.

Imo the problem with CA is that it has been a magnet for public assistance seeking libs for the last 50 years. Let's face it, CA offers great weather, public schools that demand little of the students they babsit, and excellent public assistance benefits for those that "fit the lib mold" (i.e. often "fatherless" people with no work history).

CA has witnessed the following during the last 50 or so years of living under the liberal agenda:

1. Public grade schools that went from being rated at the top of the nation to very near the bottom.

2. A elitist political system transformation to that of a level of complete corruption and incompetence.

3. The enforcement of EPA laws, rules, and regulations that often add a decade or more to the major business permit and/or expansion process (government and other "plum" building projects, such as sports stadiums, are almost always exempt from these oppressive EPA regulations).

4. The importation of millions of poorly educated and chronicaly dependent third world immigrants that are very much used to living in a corrupt socialist environment (many of these immigrants do little but breed and/or vote for a living).

5. A decimation of the strong auto, aerospace, other manufacturing industries that  made it a true economic power house in the past.

6. The refusal to permit the necessary infrastructure expansion required by the increase in population (this is especially true of the energy power plant and grid systems).

But then again, this is what "progressive" liberalism is all about; a relative small group of elitists that rule over their public assistance dependent serfs...

Quote from: Telmark on May 27, 2013, 05:09:24 AM
I agree.

Imo the problem with CA is that it has been a magnet for public assistance seeking libs for the last 50 years. Let's face it, CA offers great weather, public schools that demand little of the students they babsit, and excellent public assistance benefits for those that "fit the lib mold" (i.e. often "fatherless" people with no work history).

CA has witnessed the following during the last 50 or so years of living under the liberal agenda:

1. Public grade schools that went from being rated at the top of the nation to very near the bottom.

2. A elitist political system transformation to that of a level of complete corruption and incompetence.

3. The enforcement of EPA laws, rules, and regulations that often add a decade or more to the major business permit and/or expansion process (government and other "plum" building projects, such as sports stadiums, are almost always exempt from these oppressive EPA regulations).

4. The importation of millions of poorly educated and chronicaly dependent third world immigrants that are very much used to living in a corrupt socialist environment (many of these immigrants do little but breed and/or vote for a living).

5. A decimation of the strong auto, aerospace, other manufacturing industries that  made it a true economic power house in the past.

6. The refusal to permit the necessary infrastructure expansion required by the increase in population (this is especially true of the energy power plant and grid systems).

But then again, this is what "progressive" liberalism is all about; a relative small group of elitists that rule over their public assistance dependent serfs...

Pretty much nailed it Telmark, I'm a Ca native of nearly 60 years, and to watch it destroyed by liberalism, is nothing short of a slow torture.
What angers me the most is lib kids coming here and arguing in favor of liberalism, when evidence of it's failure is all around them, yet they refuse to open their eyes to reality.
Hell, even Sweden is finally reaping what it's been growing for years.....

I have suggested this many times.  Let go back to 48 states and get rid of CA and NY and we would be better off.

On second thought make it 47 and we in Texsa will succeed.  It would be win win for Texas.

Quote from: Telmark on May 27, 2013, 05:09:24 AM
I agree.

Imo the problem with CA is that it has been a magnet for public assistance seeking libs for the last 50 years. Let's face it, CA offers great weather, public schools that demand little of the students they babsit, and excellent public assistance benefits for those that "fit the lib mold" (i.e. often "fatherless" people with no work history).

CA has witnessed the following during the last 50 or so years of living under the liberal agenda:

1. Public grade schools that went from being rated at the top of the nation to very near the bottom.

2. A elitist political system transformation to that of a level of complete corruption and incompetence.

3. The enforcement of EPA laws, rules, and regulations that often add a decade or more to the major business permit and/or expansion process (government and other "plum" building projects, such as sports stadiums, are almost always exempt from these oppressive EPA regulations).

4. The importation of millions of poorly educated and chronicaly dependent third world immigrants that are very much used to living in a corrupt socialist environment (many of these immigrants do little but breed and/or vote for a living).

5. A decimation of the strong auto, aerospace, other manufacturing industries that  made it a true economic power house in the past.

6. The refusal to permit the necessary infrastructure expansion required by the increase in population (this is especially true of the energy power plant and grid systems).

But then again, this is what "progressive" liberalism is all about; a relative small group of elitists that rule over their public assistance dependent serfs...

Your list left out the forced abandonment of what may be the largest reserves of petroleum and natural gas of any state in the union, especially if you include offshore resources. California tends to move around a bit, sometimes in unpleasant ways, but it is literally floating on carbon-based energy wealth.

I think that we agree on one thing.  Our government is broke and we are moving very fast to fix it.  We are arguing too much and I don't see any solutions.