Pat Condell enlightens us on the things being done by a religion which have nothing to do with Islam...really...you can trust us on that. 

Nothing to do with Islam

Quote from: quiller on January 22, 2015, 11:00:06 AM
Pat Condell enlightens us on the things being done by a religion which have nothing to do with Islam...really...you can trust us on that. 

Nothing to do with Islam

The speaker bravely made a target outta' himself.  The you-know-who will have his head for this opinion.     

Quote from: quiller on January 22, 2015, 11:00:06 AM
Pat Condell enlightens us on the things being done by a religion which have nothing to do with Islam...really...you can trust us on that. 

Nothing to do with Islam

That's just more taqiyah from the muslims...next?

It is a grave and inexcusable mistake to condemn 1.6 billion Muslims for the acts of a relative few zealots on behalf of Islam.

It is also a grave and inexcusable mistake -- and a remarkable exercise in cramming your head into the sand -- to claim that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism and wanton mass murder in today's world.

Those things said, I think we should exercise caution about expressing our outrage at the acts of terrorists by describing those acts as "being done by a religion." Terrorist acts (or other sorts of acts) are not carried out by any religion. These days, they are carried out by followers of organizations or sects that derive inspiration from religious texts fundamental to Islam. While many imams may agree with the beliefs professed by some terrorist groups, they would not, and have not, condoned or endorsed terrorist acts.

To illustrate with a parallel... Consider that roughly 70% of all murders in the US are committed by black males. (Consider too, that most of their victims are also black males.) Despite those statistical realities, it would not be fair to cast all 22 million black males in the US as being murderers. At the same time, it is the height of stupidity to insist -- as our current DOJ does -- that black males are over-represented in our prisons. They are not, because they are guilty.

With an eye toward the integrity and reputation of the board, I'm saying we should simply be careful about generalizations.

Are you on drugs ?

I don't know anyone, on CPF or anywhere else, who says that all muslims are terrorists, or all blacks are criminals.

But I do know that completely rational, intelligent, honest people look at the statistics of who's doing the terrorism and crime TODAY.  Especially the outrageous conflicting %'s of small representation in general, and giant representation in the violence.

Are you pulling our legs  ?  We don't need supposedly conservative people just whining and weeping their way into the legions of progressives, refusing to admit to the no-shit stats and demographics.......crying about the "unfairness of it all" instead.

I mean, come on man.

If Islam is as peaceful as it claims, then why do "decent" Muslims continue to support the bloodthirsty savages like ISIS and al Qaeda? Why aren't Muslims self-policing and not enabling?

Call it what it is, a death cult worshiping a pedophile. And that has EVERYTHING to do with Islam.

Quote from: TboneAgain on January 22, 2015, 06:20:43 PM
It is a grave and inexcusable mistake to condemn 1.6 billion Muslims for the acts of a relative few zealots on behalf of Islam.

It is also a grave and inexcusable mistake -- and a remarkable exercise in cramming your head into the sand -- to claim that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism and wanton mass murder in today's world.

Those things said, I think we should exercise caution about expressing our outrage at the acts of terrorists by describing those acts as "being done by a religion." Terrorist acts (or other sorts of acts) are not carried out by any religion. These days, they are carried out by followers of organizations or sects that derive inspiration from religious texts fundamental to Islam. While many imams may agree with the beliefs professed by some terrorist groups, they would not, and have not, condoned or endorsed terrorist acts.

To illustrate with a parallel... Consider that roughly 70% of all murders in the US are committed by black males. (Consider too, that most of their victims are also black males.) Despite those statistical realities, it would not be fair to cast all 22 million black males in the US as being murderers. At the same time, it is the height of stupidity to insist -- as our current DOJ does -- that black males are over-represented in our prisons. They are not, because they are guilty.

With an eye toward the integrity and reputation of the board, I'm saying we should simply be careful about generalizations.

Tbone I like ya, I respect ya, but you could not be more wrong man.

When the majority of a group of people sit silent, refusing to condemn that small minority they would have us all BELIEVE are savages who are not acting in their name.

ONLY when questioned by some blathering liberal sitting at a news desk on CNN opining about the news everyday.

They are no longer "Moderates" they are complicit in the barbarism being carried out in their name.

And that's where your "parallel" fails.

The majority of black American's in the U.S. do not condone, or sit silent and by their silence condone, raping pillaging and murder.

The same cannot be said of Islam though.

Which tells it's "moderate" adherents that they can do their part, in luring the "stupid qaffirs of America" to their deaths.

By feeding us a steady diet of taqiyah, while they carry out attacks against us.

That in fact goes beyond complicit to active assitance.

Tbone let me tell you what I do not understand.

IF some satanist out there in california, wanted to sacrifice babies to satan, should we allow it?

Should we tolerate that religion too?

NO? Then why should we tolerate islam, which says ALL OF US who will not bow down, and worship as others have rightly said.

IS a man, a pedophile, and a mass murder?

Worship of a man, ANY man, is the very defintion of idolatry, something the God of the Israelite, and the Christian says we are NOT to tolerate.

John 14 "No man comes to the father but by me" Christ said that, and you know what, he didn't say anything at all in the entire chapter about some pedophile named muhammad.

Who sat in a cave and dreamt up this religion, so he could take over his local tribe.

After having been exiled there, after his first murderous attempt at doing so failed.

Time to start telling the truth about Islam period Tbone.

The play time, at the ISIS romper room and liberal progressive dreamland, is over.

With their wholesale slaughter of the innocents.

Which Islam says does not exist btw...but I digress.

These terrorists, and those who enable them, and actively support them, have decided to escalate things from the "eh ok, we'll deal with em later on when we can get to it"

to the "serious shit" level instead.

           This is not a long standing debate. Twenty years ago, most Americans could  not  have said what a Moslem was, much less name one.
   
            When the debate started to heat up in Europe, 10-12 years ago, the subject of the topic was one of the first issues addressed, in Europe. The results of the investigation were that 85% of the Mosques surveyed, in Europe, were preaching, advocating,  radical action.

Quote from: TboneAgain on January 22, 2015, 06:20:43 PM
It is a grave and inexcusable mistake to condemn 1.6 billion Muslims for the acts of a relative few zealots on behalf of Islam.

It is also a grave and inexcusable mistake -- and a remarkable exercise in cramming your head into the sand -- to claim that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism and wanton mass murder in today's world.

Those things said, I think we should exercise caution about expressing our outrage at the acts of terrorists by describing those acts as "being done by a religion." Terrorist acts (or other sorts of acts) are not carried out by any religion. These days, they are carried out by followers of organizations or sects that derive inspiration from religious texts fundamental to Islam. While many imams may agree with the beliefs professed by some terrorist groups, they would not, and have not, condoned or endorsed terrorist acts.

To illustrate with a parallel... Consider that roughly 70% of all murders in the US are committed by black males. (Consider too, that most of their victims are also black males.) Despite those statistical realities, it would not be fair to cast all 22 million black males in the US as being murderers. At the same time, it is the height of stupidity to insist -- as our current DOJ does -- that black males are over-represented in our prisons. They are not, because they are guilty.

With an eye toward the integrity and reputation of the board, I'm saying we should simply be careful about generalizations.

You were doing just fine, until you got to the point about the criminal justice system. Question. If you start are out with the belief that 70% of all murders are committed by blacks, how difficult would it be, to convict ANY given black of murder. The thing I always found interesting, is the idea that some people seem to have that each individual black crime is committed by a separate, distinct, individual black. For some strange reason, people who can deal with the idea of white career criminals committing most of the crimes, seem to believe on the other hand that any crime committed by a black is committed by a black, is committed by a distinct individual.  It's easy to see where that leads. Joe thug commits ten murders - and goes to jail for one, so - what about the people who are serving time for the other nine murders? Either most blacks are criminals - which is the undercurrent running through much of any discussion on black crime - or an awful lot of black people are in prison for crimes they never committed. I've asked this question before and never really did get an answer. Do you believe that every black convicted of a crime during the Jim Crow era actually committed that crime? If so, why? And why do you assume they've changed.

Islam is a religion for tribal illiterates. Look at who it's followers are.

Quote from: mdgiles on January 25, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
You were doing just fine, until you got to the point about the criminal justice system. Question. If you start are out with the belief that 70% of all murders are committed by blacks, how difficult would it be, to convict ANY given black of murder. The thing I always found interesting, is the idea that some people seem to have that each individual black crime is committed by a separate, distinct, individual black. For some strange reason, people who can deal with the idea of white career criminals committing most of the crimes, seem to believe on the other hand that any crime committed by a black is committed by a black, is committed by a distinct individual.  It's easy to see where that leads. Joe thug commits ten murders - and goes to jail for one, so - what about the people who are serving time for the other nine murders? Either most blacks are criminals - which is the undercurrent running through much of any discussion on black crime - or an awful lot of black people are in prison for crimes they never committed. I've asked this question before and never really did get an answer. Do you believe that every black convicted of a crime during the Jim Crow era actually committed that crime? If so, why? And why do you assume they've changed.

Are you really saying that because black people were accused / convicted of crimes falsely during the worst of segregation (obviously true).........that the stats must be wrong today because the same thing is happening, never stopped or changed  ?

My God.  Have you noticed Ferguson and 10 more like it ?  The massive out-of-wedlock %  ?  The gangs and murder stats of CHI, DET, LA, STL, ESTL, and 20 more like them  ?

You are inhabiting a worse fantasy land than Obama, Sharpton, and Jackson, if you're really trying to sell this.

what % of Muslims will try to do as the Prophet did in everything they do ?

Quote from: Gator Monroe on January 25, 2015, 08:15:53 AM
what % of Muslims will try to do as the Prophet did in everything they do ?

I don't think there is anyway to know for sure, but I'll bet it's a lot higher than most people think.  The vast number of Muslims live in third world conditions.  They are poor, uneducated and tribal.  The number of Western Muslims who want Sharia law is scary enough. 

There are now 52 million in Europe. Count 'em, fifty two million. 
Only 36% of Swedes favor restrictions on Muslim immigration, and
that per cent is bound to shrink as the country grows more and more
Muslim. Sweden and Norway are strategic locations.

Quote from: red_dirt on January 25, 2015, 08:42:18 AM
There are now 52 million in Europe. Count 'em, fifty two million. 
Only 36% of Swedes favor restrictions on Muslim immigration, and
that per cent is bound to shrink as the country grows more and more
Muslim. Sweden and Norway are strategic locations.

Sounds like the future of "the Americas"...Better learn Spanish!