'I do trust him' NK, So It Begins

Started by Solar, June 12, 2018, 07:12:28 AM

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Solar

Quote from: Cadescove on July 07, 2018, 09:15:18 AM
Huh?
Do you have reading comprrehension issues?

"said the statement, released by an unnamed spokesman and carried by the North's official Korean Central News Agency."

So who really said it? Their media? Sounds a lot like what the left passes of as sources here. In other words, without an actual source, it's a blatant lie!
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Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2018, 09:55:48 AM
Do you have reading comprrehension issues?

"said the statement, released by an unnamed spokesman and carried by the North's official Korean Central News Agency."

So who really said it? Their media? Sounds a lot like what the left passes of as sources here. In other words, without an actual source, it's a blatant lie!

Because North Korea's official Korean News Agency often puts out statements that aren't officially sanctioned? 😳

Solar

Quote from: Cadescove on July 07, 2018, 09:59:26 AM
Because North Korea's official Korean News Agency often puts out statements that aren't officially sanctioned? 😳
Yep! It's the propaganda agency of the commie party, and by not naming a source is their way of claiming at a later date, that the individual was not authorized to speak on behalf of the leadership, in turn, distancing themselves from the comment.

This is just more of the game of chess being played on both sides.
Media lies for a living, that's what their job is anymore, they're selling a product, so learn to read between the lines, or look for better sources.
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Trump, unlike the clown posse that preceded him (Clinton, Bush, Obama)
is dealing seriously w/severe issues such as NK, our chronic and dangerous
trade imbalances as well as our highly taxed and over regulated economy;
despite the aggressive opposition of democrats plus the rino scumbags.
At the very least Trump deserves applause for his focus and effort, rather
than ignorant bitching from illiterate cranks and malcontents
As for NK, it is simply another backward Asian nation addicted to the curse
of totalitarianism; along w/China, Indo-China, Thailand, Burma, Pakistan,
Indonesia; among several. India, Japan and Singapore escaped this curse,
thanks largely to Great Britain.
The commentary about Pompeo is predictable and gives the media something
negative to yap about; otherwise they'd simply have to make it up.
The essence of the NK problem is not Kim; rather it's the NK Military who
consciously grasp that their power and prestige will evaporate if and when
they de-nuclearize. We will have to face up to this reality and deal w/it.

Cryptic Bert

Here's my two penneth. Every time North Kore mouths off or there is a setback the left (there is no liberal democrats or moderate democrats anymore) will attack. They would do this anyway but Trump made it a bit easier by all but proclaiming victory and complimenting Kim Jong Un in Singapore. But that is Trump. When he wants something from you he blows smoke up your skirt. That is how negotiates. If he was president in 1945 he would have complimented Hitler on his choice of mustache. He tickles Kim under the chin and Kim giggles. The problem is Pompeo is the exact opposite. A blunt object ready to bludgeon Kim. Basically it's good cop bad cop.This administration is like none other and the North Koreans have no idea how to handle it.

If we are to have any positive out come it will take more than one or two meetings and photo ops. Trump plays the long game and does so knowing the short game can be a bitch. The past administrations buggered the long game because they worried about the political implications of the short game. If this is going to happen it will take years.

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 07, 2018, 06:56:40 PM
Here's my two penneth. Every time North Kore mouths off or there is a setback the left (there is no liberal democrats or moderate democrats anymore) will attack. They would do this anyway but Trump made it a bit easier by all but proclaiming victory and complimenting Kim Jong Un in Singapore. But that is Trump. When he wants something from you he blows smoke up your skirt. That is how negotiates. If he was president in 1945 he would have complimented Hitler on his choice of mustache. He tickles Kim under the chin and Kim giggles. The problem is Pompeo is the exact opposite. A blunt object ready to bludgeon Kim. Basically it's good cop bad cop.This administration is like none other and the North Koreans have no idea how to handle it.

If we are to have any positive out come it will take more than one or two meetings and photo ops. Trump plays the long game and does so knowing the short game can be a bitch. The past administrations buggered the long game because they worried about the political implications of the short game. If this is going to happen it will take years.
That's it in a nutshell. I couldn't agree more.
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Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2018, 07:24:24 PM
That's it in a nutshell. I couldn't agree more.

Now, the final outcome. I have no idea and I don't have high hopes because history says so. I don't like to do predictions because with politics things can change in an instant. But if I had to make a prediction I would say in the end it will be China that pulls the plug on North Korea because of Trump. How? I have no idea. But it will be about who has the biggest balls.

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 07, 2018, 08:51:27 PM
Now, the final outcome. I have no idea and I don't have high hopes because history says so. I don't like to do predictions because with politics things can change in an instant. But if I had to make a prediction I would say in the end it will be China that pulls the plug on North Korea because of Trump. How? I have no idea. But it will be about who has the biggest balls.
Yep, this has zero to do with NK and everything to do with China. China will play this the best way possible for themselves.
They were completely caught off guard when Trump manipulated them into concessions, something China hates the most is interfering with their longterm goals of global domination in the market.
I've no doubt China has something up their sleeve to get back at Trump, probably more currency manipulation if I were to guess for starters.
Trump still scares the shit out of Xi, so Xi will have to tread lightly, but I expect this process to be drug out over several years in hopes of getting more concessions from Trump.
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Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2018, 09:00:45 PM
Yep, this has zero to do with NK and everything to do with China. China will play this the best way possible for themselves.
They were completely caught off guard when Trump manipulated them into concessions, something China hates the most is interfering with their longterm goals of global domination in the market.
I've no doubt China has something up their sleeve to get back at Trump, probably more currency manipulation if I were to guess for starters.
Trump still scares the shit out of Xi, so Xi will have to tread lightly, but I expect this process to be drug out over several years in hopes of getting more concessions from Trump.

The possible trade war and the tariffs will probably play an important role. Trump doesn't know foreign policy but he knows money. Money is what fuels nations.

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 07, 2018, 09:16:45 PM
The possible trade war and the tariffs will probably play an important role. Trump doesn't know foreign policy but he knows money. Money is what fuels nations.
Add to that, a brilliant team of military intel experts. It's these experts that give me faith Trump will succeed.
You know he has personal info on each and every pol he meets with. I believe that's why Roberts is giving Trump an open seat so early on.
Trump knows how to play this game, and always with a polite smile.
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Quote from: Cadescove on July 07, 2018, 09:59:26 AM
Because North Korea's official Korean News Agency often puts out statements that aren't officially sanctioned? 😳

I guess believing commie propaganda is your strong and only suit. You must have tripped all over yourself trying to get to your keyboard before all of your commie friends so you can post your Trump hating propaganda. Your mistake was you ran into the "wall" (see what I did there) of truth here at CFP.

Now pick yourself up and dust yourself off and most of all stop being the poster child as a hit and run lover for the maxist party...the democrats. Try taking a deep breath then come back refreshed armed with the truth.

Now have a great day and tell your commie friends we love you guys and we hope to see ya soon.
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Cadescove

Quote from: Bronx on July 08, 2018, 08:39:26 AM
I guess believing commie propaganda is your strong and only suit. You must have tripped all over yourself trying to get to your keyboard before all of your commie friends so you can post your Trump hating propaganda. Your mistake was you ran into the "wall" (see what I did there) of truth here at CFP.

Now pick yourself up and dust yourself off and most of all stop being the poster child as a hit and run lover for the maxist party...the democrats. Try taking a deep breath then come back refreshed armed with the truth.

Now have a great day and tell your commie friends we love you guys and we hope to see ya soon.

Aww, you're very cute, even though you missed the whole point of my post was about Trump's propaganda not North Korea's. North Korea's b.s. propaganda was never in doubt.

Your own board member's have proven my point in posts 32 on that we are not safer, there still is a nuclear threat and this will be a long process.

Have a good day.

Solar

Quote from: Cadescove on July 08, 2018, 09:40:40 AM
Aww, you're very cute, even though you missed the whole point of my post was about Trump's propaganda not North Korea's. North Korea's b.s. propaganda was never in doubt.

Your own board member's have proven my point in posts 32 on that we are not safer, there still is a nuclear threat and this will be a long process.

Have a good day.
Truth is, there never was a real nuke threat. The beauty of what Trump did, was put a decades-old threat to free enterprise.
For decades China has used NK to get what it wants, Trump called their bluff and won serious concessions.
This is not the end, China wants Taiwan, NK was a Chinese tool and Trump took it away.
You need to see this in the geopolitical sphere of things, not myopically focusing on NK the way China intended.
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Quote from: Solar on July 08, 2018, 06:14:11 AM
Add to that, a brilliant team of military intel experts. It's these experts that give me faith Trump will succeed.
You know he has personal info on each and every pol he meets with. I believe that's why Roberts is giving Trump an open seat so early on.
Trump knows how to play this game, and always with a polite smile.

Well, not has brilliant as Ben Rhodes....

Solar

Quote from: Cadescove on July 07, 2018, 09:59:26 AM
Because North Korea's official Korean News Agency often puts out statements that aren't officially sanctioned? 😳
As I've said all along, this is not NK's problem. it's the Chinese bully telling a nation no bigger in size than Northern Ca, what to do and when to do it, or else.
China owns NK, We've known it for decades and pretend otherwise. Trump refuses to play that shit.

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I have confidence that Kim Jong Un will honor the contract we signed &, even more importantly, our handshake. We agreed to the denuclearization of North Korea. China, on the other hand, may be exerting negative pressure on a deal because of our posture on Chinese Trade-Hope Not!
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