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This Dreamer Could Become The First Undocumented DNC Member
« on: October 20, 2017, 03:36:02 PM »
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Saturday could mark a historic moment for the undocumented community in the United States.

The Democratic National Committee could appoint Ellie Pérez to be its first undocumented member in history, a move that would potentially allow the 26-year-old Dreamer from Mexico to take part in the 2020 presidential nomination process.

Pérez has been nominated to be a DNC member for the next four years, which includes the next presidential election cycle. If appointed, she could potentially become a superdelegate and get to cast a vote for the party's nominee at the 2020 Democratic National Convention.

"This nomination, this appointment to the DNC says so much about our party. We're the party of opportunity, we're the party of the people, we're the party of change, and we're the party of hope," Pérez told Refinery29 on Friday afternoon. "We're embracing the diversity of America and I think that's the most important part."

The nomination comes amid the Trump administration's crackdown on undocumented immigrants, including the repeal of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), a program of which Pérez is a beneficiary. While the opportunity to potentially influence the presidential nomination process in the future is "an amazing and iconic thing," serving as a DNC member without being able to cast a ballot in the actual U.S. elections — including crucial local and congressional races — is bittersweet.

"I will be able to have a say in my national party, but I won't be able to have a say in my local politics by casting a ballot," she said. "That's something that really hurts, because I believe that I should be able to have say. I'm Mexican by birth, but I'm American by choice."

Pérez was 4-years-old when her parents brought her to Arizona from Veracruz, Mexico. When she obtained her DACA permit in 2012, she was able to work as an advisor for then-Phoenix City Councilwoman Kate Gallego. (Gallego is now the Phoenix vice mayor and Pérez still works for her.) During the 2016 presidential election, Pérez worked for Hillary Clinton's campaign.

Besides Pérez's nomination, the list of potential new members is incredibly diverse: According to the DNC, there was also an increase in LGBTQ representation, and the representation of millennials, Native Americans, Asian Americans, and Pacific Islanders doubled.

“DREAMers are our friends and neighbors and are essential members of their communities," DNC spokesperson Francisco Pelayo told Refinery29. "We would be proud to have Ellie as one of our DNC members, who will be part of the process of choosing our next Democratic candidate for President."

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/10/177563/undocumented-dreamer-superdelegate-democratic-national-convention

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Re: This Dreamer Could Become The First Undocumented DNC Member
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2017, 04:12:19 PM »
This is going to backfire big time. There are a lot of libs out there that believe everyone associated with the election process be American citizens, this simply strengthens claims by the right that Dims care nothing for election laws where illegals are concerned.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2017, 04:33:53 PM »
This is going to backfire big time. There are a lot of libs out there that believe everyone associated with the election process be American citizens, this simply strengthens claims by the right that Dims care nothing for election laws where illegals are concerned.

Add to the fact that DACA itself is not constitutional!

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President Donald Trump has caught a lot of heat for rescinding the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program with a six-month wind-down. Few people seem aware that he's ending an administrative amnesty for illegal aliens that President Barack Obama lacked the constitutional and legal authority to implement.

How do we know? Because even Obama admitted it – repeatedly.

Responding in October 2010 to demands that he implement immigration reforms unilaterally, Obama declared, "I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself." In March 2011, he said that with "respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that's just not the case." In May 2011, he acknowledged that he couldn't "just bypass Congress and change the (immigration) law myself. ... That's not how a democracy works."

http://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/daca-unconstitutional-obama-admitted
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Re: This Dreamer Could Become The First Undocumented DNC Member
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2017, 04:34:16 PM »
I hope they deport her after being appointed......I would wait until she draws her first DNC paycheck then pounce....preferably at DNC HQ. :popcorn:
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Re: This Dreamer Could Become The First Undocumented DNC Member
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2017, 07:15:21 PM »
I hope they deport her after being appointed......I would wait until she draws her first DNC paycheck then pounce....preferably at DNC HQ. :popcorn:


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Re: This Dreamer Could Become The First Undocumented DNC Member
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2017, 08:43:19 PM »
Just a reminder....

The DNC is a private entity -- it is a political organization, but it is completely separate from government. It can hire or nominate or appoint anybody without respect to citizenship status, as long as it doesn't run afoul of immigration law. It can install Vladimir Putin as its chairman, quite legally. (And it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the DNC did just that.)

As Solar correctly points out, this is likely going to backfire on the DNC because a huge majority of the country's voters don't think undocumented aliens should have anything to do with the election process. And obviously, the Democrat Party has a lot to do with the election process.

But putting this DACA gal on the payroll of the DNC doesn't bother me a tenth as much as having Huma Abedin as the Secretary of State's personal assistant and spokesperson on the public payroll.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2017, 06:35:55 AM »
Just a reminder....

The DNC is a private entity -- it is a political organization, but it is completely separate from government. It can hire or nominate or appoint anybody without respect to citizenship status, as long as it doesn't run afoul of immigration law. It can install Vladimir Putin as its chairman, quite legally. (And it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the DNC did just that.)

As Solar correctly points out, this is likely going to backfire on the DNC because a huge majority of the country's voters don't think undocumented aliens should have anything to do with the election process. And obviously, the Democrat Party has a lot to do with the election process.

But putting this DACA gal on the payroll of the DNC doesn't bother me a tenth as much as having Huma Abedin as the Secretary of State's personal assistant and spokesperson on the public payroll.
Exactly T.
That's how I see it as well, this is a mere distraction, a way to fire up the mouth breathers on the right, and God knows we have our fair share.
While these mouth breathers focus on 'Barnum and Bailey's' (Clinton's) big event "An illegal in the party", the ticket office is being robbed and evidence destroyed.

But let's get our panties in a knot over nothing?
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2017, 02:53:13 PM »
Exactly T.
That's how I see it as well, this is a mere distraction, a way to fire up the mouth breathers on the right, and God knows we have our fair share.
While these mouth breathers focus on 'Barnum and Bailey's' (Clinton's) big event "An illegal in the party", the ticket office is being robbed and evidence destroyed.

But let's get our panties in a knot over nothing?

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Federal law does not prohibit non-citizens from voting in state or local elections, but no state has allowed non-citizens to vote in state elections since Arkansas became the last state to outlaw non-citizen voting in 1926.

11 local governments, 10 of them in Maryland, allow non-citizens to vote in their local elections (Takoma Park, Barnesville, Martin's Additions, Somerset, Chevy Chase Sections 3 and 5, Glen Echo, Garrett Park, Hyattsville, and Mount Rainer).
 San Francisco allows noncitizens parents to vote in School Board elections (beginning in 2018).[

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States
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Re: This Dreamer Could Become The First Undocumented DNC Member
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2017, 03:36:27 PM »
Wiki, Serioously?

Maryland city rescinds vote that allowed illegal immigrants to ballot in local elections
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/16/maryland-city-rescinds-vote-that-allowed-illegal-immigrants-to-ballot-in-local-elections.html

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If the vote had stood, College Park, where the University of Maryland’s flagship campus is located, would have become the 11th municipality just in Maryland to allow non-citizens to vote in local races.
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Re: This Dreamer Could Become The First Undocumented DNC Member
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2017, 03:40:39 PM »
Did you miss this?


When the illegal immigrants is sent back home, they can not vote.  Just let them keep identifying themselves, and there will be no problem finding them.
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Re: This Dreamer Could Become The First Undocumented DNC Member
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2017, 04:12:29 PM »
Did you miss this?
And still, it's illegal. Regardless of what these lib cesspools do, it's still against the law.
This only serves to amplify my earlier point, that even libs are against this illegal nonsense.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2016/voters_strongly_reject_letting_illegal_immigrants_vote
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2017, 06:29:09 PM »
Wiki, Serioously?

Yeah, gotta stand with Solar here. Wiki?

Wikipedia isn't legitimate source material for political subjects any more. Hasn't been for years. It's like querying the New York Times or Salon.com or Rolling Stone.

A long time ago it was a noble experiment. I was a contributing author for years, and some of my work is still there. But the Left caught on to its growing importance and assigned troops to police its ranks. Let me elaborate on one example of a pattern of behavior I've been seeing at Wikipedia for many years now.
 
A few years ago, I authored a new article on Wikipedia about a gal named Melowese Richardson, a black woman who, as a poll worker in suburban Cincinnati, was convicted and sentenced to prison for voting illegally numerous times. In the current climate of conflict on the subject of voter registration, I thought it was a perfect addition to the knowledge base. (She's easy to find on the internet, just not on Wikipedia.) The Lefty trolls on Wiki thought otherwise.

My article, which was thoroughly researched and backed by at least 9 linked sources, was disappeared. It was not modified or edited or criticized or offered up in some other form. It vanished. It was made to not exist.

The explanation I received was that it concerned a person who had committed only one notable act, and such persons don't get attention on Wikipedia. I asked how Bruno Hauptmann and Rosa Parks and Timothy McVeigh and Lee Harvey Oswald managed to get such lavish coverage on Wikipedia, even though each was a guy or gal who did just one notable thing.

Crickets.

The real reason -- and this has become crystal clear to thousands of Wikipedia users and especially contributors -- is that Wikipedia is now an organ of the Left, essentially an extension of the Democrat Party. Wikipedia is thoroughly trooped with Leftist trolls who police every article with any political significance. As a registered author and contributor, I've had political content erased within seconds after submitting it. Let me repeat this. I have seen my original content submissions vanish within less than 10 seconds of submission. I have never seen my original online content erased as quickly as it is on Wikipedia. My stuff would last longer on Mother Jones.
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2017, 04:02:33 AM »
And still, it's illegal. Regardless of what these lib cesspools do, it's still against the law.
This only serves to amplify my earlier point, that even libs are against this illegal nonsense.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2016/voters_strongly_reject_letting_illegal_immigrants_vote

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Re: This Dreamer Could Become The First Undocumented DNC Member
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2017, 05:18:30 AM »
Yeah, gotta stand with Solar here. Wiki?

Wikipedia isn't legitimate source material for political subjects any more. Hasn't been for years. It's like querying the New York Times or Salon.com or Rolling Stone.

A long time ago it was a noble experiment. I was a contributing author for years, and some of my work is still there. But the Left caught on to its growing importance and assigned troops to police its ranks. Let me elaborate on one example of a pattern of behavior I've been seeing at Wikipedia for many years now.
 
A few years ago, I authored a new article on Wikipedia about a gal named Melowese Richardson, a black woman who, as a poll worker in suburban Cincinnati, was convicted and sentenced to prison for voting illegally numerous times. In the current climate of conflict on the subject of voter registration, I thought it was a perfect addition to the knowledge base. (She's easy to find on the internet, just not on Wikipedia.) The Lefty trolls on Wiki thought otherwise.

My article, which was thoroughly researched and backed by at least 9 linked sources, was disappeared. It was not modified or edited or criticized or offered up in some other form. It vanished. It was made to not exist.

The explanation I received was that it concerned a person who had committed only one notable act, and such persons don't get attention on Wikipedia. I asked how Bruno Hauptmann and Rosa Parks and Timothy McVeigh and Lee Harvey Oswald managed to get such lavish coverage on Wikipedia, even though each was a guy or gal who did just one notable thing.

Crickets.

The real reason -- and this has become crystal clear to thousands of Wikipedia users and especially contributors -- is that Wikipedia is now an organ of the Left, essentially an extension of the Democrat Party. Wikipedia is thoroughly trooped with Leftist trolls who police every article with any political significance. As a registered author and contributor, I've had political content erased within seconds after submitting it. Let me repeat this. I have seen my original content submissions vanish within less than 10 seconds of submission. I have never seen my original online content erased as quickly as it is on Wikipedia. My stuff would last longer on Mother Jones.
I used to use Wiki for its periodic table and measurements etc, but even that is suspect anymore, so all it's good for is game tips, which is innocuous at best as well as apolitical, but sad that's what it has devolved into, a leftist promotion of rewritten history.

I was trying to find the plea posted by the founder of Wiki, where every time you opened Wiki, the banner stated he was pledging fairness, recognizing he/wiki had a leftist infestation.

And when I searched for it, the first page loaded by Google was Jared Lee Loughner.
God knows why, unless it's because the left is still in denial he was a lib wack job.

Did the Founder concede and give up on trying to make Wiki honest, instead left it to pedophile, freaks and Marxists to run wild?
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