The news is full of this story of her show being cancelled because of a tweet about Valerie Jarrett. Quite frankly, I could care less. The tweet was not all that funny, but the over sensitives on the left have gone nuts. Roseanne showed her judgmental deficiencies by posting it. How it struck me is if the left is so outraged and hyper sensitive over this it just shows how shallow they are.
I saw what she posted, and to be honest, I didn't see a thing wrong other than her claim Chelsea married a Soros, which she apologized because it wasn't the truth.
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 29, 2018, 12:24:32 PM
The news is full of this story of her show being cancelled because of a tweet about Valerie Jarrett. Quite frankly, I could care less. The tweet was not all that funny, but the over sensitives on the left have gone nuts. Roseanne showed her judgmental deficiencies by posting it. How it struck me is if the left is so outraged and hyper sensitive over this it just shows how shallow they are.
So a tweet by her put about 200 people out of work. You got to love the left. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 29, 2018, 12:24:32 PM
The news is full of this story of her show being cancelled because of a tweet about Valerie Jarrett. Quite frankly, I could care less. The tweet was not all that funny, but the over sensitives on the left have gone nuts. Roseanne showed her judgmental deficiencies by posting it. How it struck me is if the left is so outraged and hyper sensitive over this it just shows how shallow they are.
It either shows how shallow they are or how accurate the tweet was.
Her show will get picked up again just like last man standing. They are important in the fight to take back one of the three pillars the left stole from us, EDUCATION, ENTERTAINMENT, AND MEDIA. Media has been where our greatest victories have been, and entertainment is starting to change with the wienstien scandals and more traditional shows like this and LMS coming back.
I could care less about what Hollywood does however a few points.
1) For a comedienne her "joke" fell flatter than a super model's chest.
2) What was the point? Jarrett is out of the White House and living creepily with the Obamas.
3) She had a right to say what she said.
4) People have a right to be offended.
5) Employers have a right to fire employees if their conduct may hurt business.
6) I never found the show funny or Rosanne talented.
7) I wonder what would have happened if she targeted Condi Rice or Candace Owens....
I never bought into this Roseanne Show with her supposed support for Trump. I always supected it was an act. This fat pig is an avowed communist, she also ran for President as the "Green Party Peace and Freedom candidate.....anytime you hear those buzzwords, "Green" Peace and Freedom" read COMMUNISM ala Madruro or Maybe Lil Kim style.
I think she set all those fools up and had the intention of doing somehting like this all along hoping it to reflect badly on Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyOtNAmR36M
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on May 29, 2018, 08:50:48 PM
I never bought into this Roseanne Show with her supposed support for Trump. I always supected it was an act. This fat pig is an avowed communist, she also ran for President as the "Green Party Peace and Freedom candidate.....anytime you hear those buzzwords, "Green" Peace and Freedom" read COMMUNISM ala Madruro or Maybe Lil Kim style.
I think she set all those fools up and had the intention of doing somehting like this all along hoping it to reflect badly on Trump.
Which is why she is sooo happy right now?
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Bob Iger of ABC called Valerie Jarrett to let her know that "ABC does not tolerate comments like those" made by Roseanne Barr. Gee, he never called President Donald J. Trump to apologize for the HORRIBLE statements made and said about me on ABC. Maybe I just didn't get the call?
Rush has the perfect take on this. The left is using roseanne as a scapgoat for trump. Remember, they want to enforce their group think on everyone, including other liberals. They are doing to roseanne exactly what they wish they cld to do to trump. They left loves exercising their ability to control free speech. We need to stand up to every attempt of the left to control ppl, even when they arent completly conservative, just like with kanye. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, (at least temporarily).
Quote from: T Hunt on May 31, 2018, 08:42:03 AM
Rush has the perfect take on this. The left is using roseanne as a scapgoat for trump. Remember, they want to enforce their group think on everyone, including other liberals. They are doing to roseanne exactly what they wish they cld to do to trump. They left loves exercising their ability to control free speech. We need to stand up to every attempt of the left to control ppl, even when they arent completly conservative, just like with kanye. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, (at least temporarily).
The left wants us to defend her in hopes of painting all of the right as racists.
I refuse to fall for the trap the left created, and no, Rosanne will always be a leftist in my eyes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8ibQKjj79s
https://youtu.be/f4npYe_Cbfg
Quote from: Solar on May 31, 2018, 09:20:30 AM
The left wants us to defend her in hopes of painting all of the right as racists.
I refuse to fall for the trap the left created, and no, Rosanne will always be a leftist in my eyes.
All due respect, of course shes a leftist, but clearly not as left as the leftist establishment that is crusifying her. By voting for trump she is at least questioning her masters. I dont believe that this is some trap for us, they arent that clever. This is the left policing their own as an example to the rest of us. This is part of the culture war. This is the leftist media flexing their muscles and reminding everyone that they still have power despite trump tearing them down daily. What the left wants is for us to accept the premise that what she said was racist, even in the least, and unacceptable. They dont need roseanne to be tied to conservatism because she is already tied to trump due to her support for him and his support for her, so again i do not think there is any trap to fall into here, just the lefts kneejerk reaction to another one of their slaves jumping ship. Just like kanye we ought to accept them with open arms into the society of free thinkers because eveyone who thinks freely will eventually come to the conlusion that the founders were spot on.
On top of all of this i am sick and tired of the left trying to say that comparing black people to monkeys is somehow racist. They do not get to decide what is and isnt allowed. They do not get to control our words. There are monkeys on other continents besides africa, and there are black people on other continents than africa as well. Bush and trump are both frequently compared to monkeys. Besides roseanne was refering to her hairstyle, not her race. They are only doing this because valerie is connected to fearless leader obummer.
Now of course i will defend ABCs right to cancel any of their shows, its a buisness. I am not saying the gvt shld step in here. What i am saying is that as a buisness ABC needs to be reminded that traditional america still outnumbers cosmopolitan america and has control of this culture. They need to be reminded that their customers are center-right, not pc loving leftists. They will take the hit because they are libtarded but someone else will pick up this goldmine of a show because the outcry is just getting started. This red tsunami that put trump in and is coming again this fall isnt only a political wave, it is a cultural wave as well and the left is about to have their own fukushima meltdown...
Quote from: T Hunt on May 31, 2018, 08:09:13 PM
All due respect, of course shes a leftist, but clearly not as left as the leftist establishment that is crusifying her. By voting for trump she is at least questioning her masters. I dont believe that this is some trap for us, they arent that clever. This is the left policing their own as an example to the rest of us. This is part of the culture war. This is the leftist media flexing their muscles and reminding everyone that they still have power despite trump tearing them down daily. What the left wants is for us to accept the premise that what she said was racist, even in the least, and unacceptable. They dont need roseanne to be tied to conservatism because she is already tied to trump due to her support for him and his support for her, so again i do not think there is any trap to fall into here, just the lefts kneejerk reaction to another one of their slaves jumping ship. Just like kanye we ought to accept them with open arms into the society of free thinkers because eveyone who thinks freely will eventually come to the conlusion that the founders were spot on.
QuoteOn top of all of this i am sick and tired of the left trying to say that comparing black people to monkeys is somehow racist.
They do not get to decide what is and isnt allowed. They do not get to control our words. There are monkeys on other continents besides africa, and there are black people on other continents than africa as well. Bush and trump are both frequently compared to monkeys. Besides roseanne was refering to her hairstyle, not her race. They are only doing this because valerie is connected to fearless leader obummer.
Now of course i will defend ABCs right to cancel any of their shows, its a buisness. I am not saying the gvt shld step in here. What i am saying is that as a buisness ABC needs to be reminded that traditional america still outnumbers cosmopolitan america and has control of this culture. They need to be reminded that their customers are center-right, not pc loving leftists. They will take the hit because they are libtarded but someone else will pick up this goldmine of a show because the outcry is just getting started. This red tsunami that put trump in and is coming again this fall isnt only a political wave, it is a cultural wave as well and the left is about to have their own fukushima meltdown...
Why can't it just be an insult of their looks? Why does everything have to be about a race, or a culture, or a sexuality?
QuoteOn top of all of this i am sick and tired of the left trying to say that comparing black people to monkeys is somehow racist. They do not get to decide what is and isnt allowed. They do not get to control our words. There are monkeys on other continents besides africa, and there are black people on other continents than africa as well. Bush and trump are both frequently compared to monkeys. Besides roseanne was refering to her hairstyle, not her race. They are only doing this because valerie is connected to fearless leader obummer.
Now of course i will defend ABCs right to cancel any of their shows, its a buisness. I am not saying the gvt shld step in here. What i am saying is that as a buisness ABC needs to be reminded that traditional america still outnumbers cosmopolitan america and has control of this culture. They need to be reminded that their customers are center-right, not pc loving leftists. They will take the hit because they are libtarded but someone else will pick up this goldmine of a show because the outcry is just getting started. This red tsunami that put trump in and is coming again this fall isnt only a political wave, it is a cultural wave as well and the left is about to have their own fukushima meltdown...
I pretty much agree with everything you say. My problem is none of that, my issue is with the hidden agenda of the left in using it as a tool to get people to defend an asshole.
I agree, she has every right to speak out, and ABC has every right to can her fat obnoxious ass. What they don't have a say in, is forcing me to take sides in what became a leftist speaking her mind and upsetting other leftists.
Had ABC not canned her or took corrective action, they'd be defending bad behavior. See how it works? Now they want you to own their mistakes by supporting her, so they can save face to their idiot base and blame the right. This is not our problem, they created it, they own it.
I refuse to participate. ABC fucked up when they created the show, the left was having a shit fit over it because the Right was being empowered, so I'm told, I never watched the show, I can't stand the leftist, obnoxious bitch, haven't watched it since it's initial first season decades ago.
Let the left meltdown, we have far more important shit to discuss if you think about it.
For example. Was this one of the major stories the left wanted buried when they manufactured this whole worthless event?
Like I said, pick your battles. Or we can all fall for the bait and ignore the real damage the left created in the world.
ISIS 'crucifies Catholic priest on Good Friday' after kidnapping him from old people's home where four nuns were shot dead
Father Tom Uzhunnalil was kidnapped by ISIS gunmen in Yemen
Terrorist had previously threatened to crucify the Indian Catholic priest
Reportedly carried out the threat on Good Friday, Austrian Cardinal claims
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3512288/ISIS-carries-Good-Friday-crucifixion-Indian-Catholic-priest-Yemen-kidnapped-three-weeks-ago.html
Spin-off Starring Sara Gilbert Reportedly in the Works.
Quote from: walkstall on June 01, 2018, 04:57:02 PM
Spin-off Starring Sara Gilbert Reportedly in the Works.
Single mom Darlene was living in her old room with her borderline tranny daughter (son) with hippie estranged husband David sneaking in the window, so I don't know how they are going to justify it.
It will not be successful.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on June 01, 2018, 05:14:58 PM
Single mom Darlene was living in her old room with her borderline tranny daughter (son) with hippie estranged husband David sneaking in the window, so I don't know how they are going to justify it.
It will not be successful.
They need one more fall person for down the road.
Quote from: T Hunt on May 31, 2018, 08:42:03 AM
Rush has the perfect take on this. The left is using roseanne as a scapgoat for trump. Remember, they want to enforce their group think on everyone, including other liberals. They are doing to roseanne exactly what they wish they cld to do to trump. They left loves exercising their ability to control free speech. We need to stand up to every attempt of the left to control ppl, even when they arent completly conservative, just like with kanye. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, (at least temporarily).
AGREE
Quote from: T Hunt on May 31, 2018, 08:42:03 AM
Rush has the perfect take on this. The left is using roseanne as a scapgoat for trump. Remember, they want to enforce their group think on everyone, including other liberals. They are doing to roseanne exactly what they wish they cld to do to trump. They left loves exercising their ability to control free speech. We need to stand up to every attempt of the left to control ppl, even when they arent completly conservative, just like with kanye. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, (at least temporarily).
AGREE
Quote from: walkstall on June 01, 2018, 04:57:02 PM
Spin-off Starring Sara Gilbert Reportedly in the Works.
ABC thinks I'll continue to line their pockets, when they killed off the ONLY character I cared about ?
Not happening.
Quote from: T Hunt on May 31, 2018, 08:09:13 PM
All due respect, of course shes a leftist, but clearly not as left as the leftist establishment that is crusifying her. By voting for trump she is at least questioning her masters. I dont believe that this is some trap for us, they arent that clever. This is the left policing their own as an example to the rest of us. This is part of the culture war. This is the leftist media flexing their muscles and reminding everyone that they still have power despite trump tearing them down daily. What the left wants is for us to accept the premise that what she said was racist, even in the least, and unacceptable. They dont need roseanne to be tied to conservatism because she is already tied to trump due to her support for him and his support for her, so again i do not think there is any trap to fall into here, just the lefts kneejerk reaction to another one of their slaves jumping ship. Just like kanye we ought to accept them with open arms into the society of free thinkers because eveyone who thinks freely will eventually come to the conlusion that the founders were spot on.
On top of all of this i am sick and tired of the left trying to say that comparing black people to monkeys is somehow racist. They do not get to decide what is and isnt allowed. They do not get to control our words. There are monkeys on other continents besides africa, and there are black people on other continents than africa as well. Bush and trump are both frequently compared to monkeys. Besides roseanne was refering to her hairstyle, not her race. They are only doing this because valerie is connected to fearless leader obummer.
Now of course i will defend ABCs right to cancel any of their shows, its a buisness. I am not saying the gvt shld step in here. What i am saying is that as a buisness ABC needs to be reminded that traditional america still outnumbers cosmopolitan america and has control of this culture. They need to be reminded that their customers are center-right, not pc loving leftists. They will take the hit because they are libtarded but someone else will pick up this goldmine of a show because the outcry is just getting started. This red tsunami that put trump in and is coming again this fall isnt only a political wave, it is a cultural wave as well and the left is about to have their own fukushima meltdown...
Over the years I have heard people observe at Playgrounds, with children running about, "What a bunch of little Monkeys !"
And these were 100% WHITE CHILDREN.
But say the same thing about a bunch of Brown Children, and you are a RACIST.
I believe Roseanne's tweet was similar, and was in no way comparing a Black Woman to a Gorilla.
VJ is not Black, anyways. She is Iranian Caucasian.
All Rosanne has to do is make lots of jokes about Trump raping his daughter on Twitter. She'll have a new show produced by Steven Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel. Smantha Bee will still be the same old "hey look at me" waste of space.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 01, 2018, 10:10:57 PM
All Rosanne has to do is make lots of jokes about Trump raping his daughter on Twitter. She'll have a new show produced by Steven Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel. Smantha Bee will still be the same old "hey look at me" waste of space.
Let's face it, TV is a waste of time and space, in this day and age.
I enjoy a Conservative radio station as I go through my day. Good music to listen to and Conservative that believe in the Constitution yet. Every day it starts out with The pledge of allegiance at 5 A.M.
After all these years it's a great way for starting in the day outside.
Quote from: walkstall on June 02, 2018, 04:06:16 AM
Let's face it, TV is a waste of time and space, in this day and age.
I enjoy a Conservative radio station as I go through my day. Good music to listen to and Conservative that believe in the Constitution yet. Every day it starts out with The pledge of allegiance at 5 A.M.
After all these years it's a great way for starting in the day outside.
There are Conservative radio stations?
I though they were all owned by Clear Channel, IHeartRadio, or whatever mega-conglomerate. That's why I will endorse the concept of independent or pirate radio because that is the freedom of speech in a nutshell.
You weren't allow to have a printing press without consent from the King Of England. We can't have a form of communication without permission from the government. We can't have a radio station without permission of the F.C.C.
One thing I will say about the Brits is they knew how to have pirate radio. B.B.C. wasn't cutting it in the 60's so they ran boats offshore (Radio Caroline and the like). It brought an era of playing popular music (what the public wanted to hear) and established what would be how the modern Pop radio stations should be formatted.
Here comes the 90's. Again the B.B.C. wasn't cutting it by not adapting to times and playing the up-n-coming underground music phenomenon that was occurring. London was crammed full of little pirate stations playing that music. I experienced it first hand. The music, the stations, the music events, and the culture.
Out of curiosity. Did anyone even watch her show? I never saw one episode, can't stand her or the premise the show was built on.
Think about it, the show was built on how the left wants to portray the right, as a bunch of ignorant hicks, something Rosanne was typecast for, because that's who she is, a bigoted leftist moron.
And don't forget the fact that she ran under the socialist banner for President recently. They can't hide the truth.
Now are you starting to see what the left was doing in giving her a show of her own, and suddenly it's canceled because she insulted a Marxist?
Think about it, we know how the left works, so is it really a stretch to make the connection that this whole thing was planned?
Even Tom Arnold admitted he had warned the Network about her using Twitter, that she was about to explode and did. But they ignored him. Why?
You all know the answer.
Quote from: Solar on June 02, 2018, 10:37:09 AM
Out of curiosity. Did anyone even watch her show? I never saw one episode, can't stand her or the premise the show was built on.
Think about it, the show was built on how the left wants to portray the right, as a bunch of ignorant hicks, something Rosanne was typecast for, because that's who she is, a bigoted leftist moron.
And don't forget the fact that she ran under the socialist banner for President recently. They can't hide the truth.
Now are you starting to see what the left was doing in giving her a show of her own, and suddenly it's canceled because she insulted a Marxist?
Think about it, we know how the left works, so is it really a stretch to make the connection that this whole thing was planned?
Even Tom Arnold admitted he had warned the Network about her using Twitter, that she was about to explode and did. But they ignored him. Why?
You all know the answer.
Never watched it, but I do not watch "entertainment" TV shows. The last one I had interest in was "24" because Jack Bauer was non prototcol.
Quote from: Solar on June 02, 2018, 10:37:09 AM
Out of curiosity. Did anyone even watch her show? I never saw one episode, can't stand her or the premise the show was built on.
Think about it, the show was built on how the left wants to portray the right, as a bunch of ignorant hicks, something Rosanne was typecast for, because that's who she is, a bigoted leftist moron.
And don't forget the fact that she ran under the socialist banner for President recently. They can't hide the truth.
Now are you starting to see what the left was doing in giving her a show of her own, and suddenly it's canceled because she insulted a Marxist?
Think about it, we know how the left works, so is it really a stretch to make the connection that this whole thing was planned?
Even Tom Arnold admitted he had warned the Network about her using Twitter, that she was about to explode and did. But they ignored him. Why?
You all know the answer.
Never watched it, but I do not watch "entertainment" TV shows. The last one I had interest in was "24" because Jack Bauer was non prototcal.
Quote from: Solar on June 02, 2018, 10:37:09 AM
Out of curiosity. Did anyone even watch her show? I never saw one episode, can't stand her or the premise the show was built on.
Think about it, the show was built on how the left wants to portray the right, as a bunch of ignorant hicks, something Rosanne was typecast for, because that's who she is, a bigoted leftist moron.
And don't forget the fact that she ran under the socialist banner for President recently. They can't hide the truth.
Now are you starting to see what the left was doing in giving her a show of her own, and suddenly it's canceled because she insulted a Marxist?
Think about it, we know how the left works, so is it really a stretch to make the connection that this whole thing was planned?
Even Tom Arnold admitted he had warned the Network about her using Twitter, that she was about to explode and did. But they ignored him. Why?
You all know the answer.
I never watch situation comedies - ever. Not since Seinfeld.
But watched every episode of Roseanne. Made it a point for my entire family to.
AND I have a "spy box" on my TV that records my viewing, so to me it was extra important to show Hollywood that if they had a show that made a point not to make "Trump Jokes", I would watch.
We enjoyed it. It was funny. Was not condescending to "deplorables" at all.
One of the last episodes had Roseanne interact with her new Muslim Neighbors. I cringed to hear that.
But it was handled very well. Of course they were English-Speaking Muslim-Lite sort of folk. A Happy-Face fantasy instead of what I believe most Muslims are, really. But I was cool with it.
After all, that's all what most of us want, right ? Immigrants who respect our culture, too, and make at least some attempt to fit in.
So "Roseanne" became a pleasant 1/2 hour ritual for my family.
I am pissed the show was cancelled so friviously.
I work so I miss watching things live. I watch video clips to get the overall story. I got turned off by the heavy politic in the first episode. The overall storylines is ok. Darlene and David's estranged marriage. Becky being a surrogate. Dan and Roseanne getting old. Nothing wrong with that.
Then they push the whole Liberal agenda as usual: non-gender forming child, black granddaughter, etc. That's not the average middle to poor white household. Someone being in jail or have been in jail would be more accurate than that black children or tranny children. Mark could have just as easily been in jail given his past. Him being "dead" is good storyline as well. A more accurate representation is he was killed by a black criminal thug or illegal alien gang member in a robbery gone wrong.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on June 02, 2018, 10:08:16 AM
There are Conservative radio stations?
You just have to live in the Conservative part of the West. In farmland country we have 3 of them, Country Western. :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on June 02, 2018, 11:08:14 AM
I work so I miss watching things live. I watch video clips to get the overall story. I got turned off by the heavy politic in the first episode. The overall storylines is ok. Darlene and David's estranged marriage. Becky being a surrogate. Dan and Roseanne getting old. Nothing wrong with that.
Then they push the whole Liberal agenda as usual: non-gender forming child, black granddaughter, etc. That's not the average middle to poor white household. Someone being in jail or have been in jail would be more accurate than that black children or tranny children. Mark could have just as easily been in jail given his past. Him being "dead" is good storyline as well. A more accurate representation is he was killed by a black criminal thug or illegal alien gang member in a robbery gone wrong.
Gosh.
Everything you say is true, but ROSEANNE was supposed to be light comedy.
Even "Throwback" comedy.
Like a show from the sixties, where everyone is, at heart, decent. Where we don't want to be challenged with hard issues, just shown a world that we might want to be. Not a world as it is.
Simple Family Entertainment.
Quote from: walkstall on June 02, 2018, 12:21:36 PM
You just have to live in the Conservative part of the West. In farmland country we have 3 of them, Country Western. :lol: :lol:
If I could start a radio station, it would be run like a "WKRP In Cincinnati" type operation in a classic hit type format. Mostly 70's/80's/90's during the day and mostly themed music shows/DJ mix shows at night.
I would play very little Country. You could hear a couple classic Country hits intermixed with the classic rock, classic pop, and classic jams.
Quote from: Solar on June 02, 2018, 10:37:09 AM
Out of curiosity. Did anyone even watch her show? I never saw one episode, can't stand her or the premise the show was built on.
Think about it, the show was built on how the left wants to portray the right, as a bunch of ignorant hicks, something Rosanne was typecast for, because that's who she is, a bigoted leftist moron.
And don't forget the fact that she ran under the socialist banner for President recently. They can't hide the truth.
Now are you starting to see what the left was doing in giving her a show of her own, and suddenly it's canceled because she insulted a Marxist?
Think about it, we know how the left works, so is it really a stretch to make the connection that this whole thing was planned?
Even Tom Arnold admitted he had warned the Network about her using Twitter, that she was about to explode and did. But they ignored him. Why?
You all know the answer.
Yea I watched it just to see what the fuss was about. First t.v. show I have watched in about 10 years. Was not worth the wait, should have waited another 10 years before watching. Can't stand the canned laughter when there is nothing funny going on.
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 29, 2018, 12:24:32 PM
The news is full of this story of her show being cancelled because of a tweet about Valerie Jarrett. Quite frankly, I could care less. The tweet was not all that funny, but the over sensitives on the left have gone nuts. Roseanne showed her judgmental deficiencies by posting it. How it struck me is if the left is so outraged and hyper sensitive over this it just shows how shallow they are.
I watched the first reboot show and honestly it was 90% liberal values and 10% rino rebuttal crap. I didn't understand the "conservative" attraction so many folks claimed it to be.
Now IMO if Roseanne leaves out the monkey business stuff and just paid attention to Valerie Jarrett being part of the Muslim Brotherhood I think it will have generated a huge long fact filled conversation.
Instead, she falls back on name calling and that crap never ends in conversation just fighting. Now I'm up for a good fight but name calling is not worth getting in the ring for.
Quote from: s3779m on June 02, 2018, 02:34:07 PM
Yea I watched it just to see what the fuss was about. First t.v. show I have watched in about 10 years. Was not worth the wait, should have waited another 10 years before watching. Can't stand the canned laughter when there is nothing funny going on.
Yeah, to be honest, I didn't watch it, simply because I don't watch TV. I think it was overly hyped and the Trump connection was destined to be used as a wedge.
I still believe that ABC had a plan all along to use it as a political weapon and they didn't fail me.