Reparations

Started by supsalemgr, June 19, 2019, 12:03:19 PM

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Rotwang

Quote from: Solar on June 22, 2019, 08:25:18 PM
They, like their predecessor Margaret Sanger, see them as stray unwanted kittens that need taken care of, and when they breed out of control, they'd send them to her establishment, Planned parenthood. Libs are so caring. :rolleyes:

Yes

And it is due to the RACISM OF LOW EXPECTATIONS

White Liberals, to their core, believe POC are inferior. That they have a difficult time controlling themselves; that they're just not as smart as the White Liberal is.

That is why whether it is Academic or Employment, the White Liberal indulges in Affirmative Action. They refuse to let POC stand on their own merits.

In criminal matters, the White Liberal is even more reluctant to hold POC to the same standards that they apply to Whites. So those POC who are inclined to crime, are more likely than others to commit those crimes. Why not ? The White Liberal will make excuses for them.

EVERYONE should be held to the same standards. That was what MLK taught - a great AMERICAN HERO. Notice I did not qualify my praise by saying "A Great Black American Hero". A White Liberal would say that.

And if following MLK's teaching of equality means Harvard would have a 100% Asian Student Body - tough.

carolina73

A group of people that say we need to pay them for crimes against people that were NOT them and not committed by anyone alive today sounds just like it is. Over half the people in the US cannot even trace their roots back to civil war times.

supsalemgr

Quote from: carolina73 on July 15, 2019, 07:17:31 AM
A group of people that say we need to pay them for crimes against people that were NOT them and not committed by anyone alive today sounds just like it is. Over half the people in the US cannot even trace their roots back to civil war times.

I just hope the democrats keep pushing this narrative. As you state, it ain't gonna play among the folks.
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Solar

Quote from: Rotwang on July 14, 2019, 07:41:32 PM
Yes

And it is due to the RACISM OF LOW EXPECTATIONS

White Liberals, to their core, believe POC are inferior. That they have a difficult time controlling themselves; that they're just not as smart as the White Liberal is.

That is why whether it is Academic or Employment, the White Liberal indulges in Affirmative Action. They refuse to let POC stand on their own merits.

In criminal matters, the White Liberal is even more reluctant to hold POC to the same standards that they apply to Whites. So those POC who are inclined to crime, are more likely than others to commit those crimes. Why not ? The White Liberal will make excuses for them.

EVERYONE should be held to the same standards. That was what MLK taught - a great AMERICAN HERO. Notice I did not qualify my praise by saying "A Great Black American Hero". A White Liberal would say that.

And if following MLK's teaching of equality means Harvard would have a 100% Asian Student Body - tough.
Exactly!!! Not only racist to the core, but elitists to boot. They actually think they're smarter and more caring than any Conservative. Regardless of the fact that it is the Right trying to reduce governmental control over the individual, something leftists simply cannot grasp..
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Cryptic Bert

It's just more wealth redistribution cloaked in racism.

ConservativeInCT

Reoperations is a terrible idea and is a symptom of the woke culture that the left is trying to push. Not only are these ideas just ignorant, but where would it end? Typical of the dems to push and idea and have no logic or idea to back it up. Absolutely unbelievable.

Cryptic Bert

Chuck Schumer has just endorsed the idea. The democrats have surrendered to the left. It's over.

Solar

Quote from: mrclose on July 18, 2019, 01:10:54 PM
As a black man who minored in African American history, I don't find ...  "reparations" as a topic, difficult at all!

Either none are owed or Everyone is owed!

Let me explain:
(Long but absolutely not complete .. which would be voluminous!)

Black slave owners owned White slaves as well as Black slaves but it doesn't fit into the narrative that the liberals want so it isn't taught.

The majority of black slave owners were members of the mulatto class.

(Obama is mulatto so we can start there!)

White Europeans were the actual first indentured slaves that some, along with their children never saw freedom.

Anthony Johnson (b. c. 1600 – d. 1670) was a black Angolan who achieved freedom in the early 17th-century Colony of Virginia after serving his term of indenture. He became one of the first property owners and slaveholders of African birth there.

He was the first black indentured servant, the first free black, and the first to establish the first black community, first black landowner, first black slave owner, and the first person based on his court case to establish slavery legally in North America.
One could argue that he was the founder of slavery in Virginia.

In 1654, he brought a case before Virginia courts in which he contested a suit launched by one of his indentured servants, a Negro who adopted the name of John Casor.

Johnson won the suit and retained Casor as his servant for life.

This officially made Johnson the first legal slave owner in the British colonies that would eventually become the United States.

In 1652 John Johnson, Anthony Johnson's eldest son, purchased eleven incoming white males and females, and received 550 acres adjacent to his father.

There were a number of additional Virginia land patents representing grants to free blacks of from fifty to 550 acres for purchasing white redemptioners.


Like many wealthy landowners of the pre-Civil War South, Sherrod Bryant owned slaves. They probably worked much of Bryant's 700 acres in Middle Tennessee, an area larger than that of Andrew Jackson's Hermitage plantation.

The slaves under Bryant helped raise hogs for their owner, who had a large family and was always looking to buy more property. 
Sherrod Bryant was black.

Most indentured servants in the British colonies in America were actually Irish, English, German, and Scottish, rather than African.

Oh And: American Indians also owned slaves.

So-o-o .. where and who do we start with?
Stop confusing him with actual facts! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Quote from: mrclose on July 18, 2019, 01:54:09 PM
It is difficult to blame folks for the misinformation because ... that is all they are taught!

I went to college in the early 70's and most of what I was taught was actually common knowledge!
Go to any campus library and you could look it up!

That is no longer the case today!
Along with 'political correctness' and 'affirmative action' came the whitewashing of Black American history!

Books were removed along with any references to other slaves who were not African American!
Why?
Simple .. Blacks Demonrats have no intention on sharing the spoils! :ttoung: :lol:
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Yes, colleges have purged actual history from the curriculum. "Can't have them niggas learning the truth." Did I ever mention just how much I hate liberals? :biggrin:
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Quote from: mrclose on July 18, 2019, 01:10:54 PM
As a black man who minored in African American history, I don't find ...  "reparations" as a topic, difficult at all!

Either none are owed or Everyone is owed!

Let me explain:
(Long but absolutely not complete .. which would be voluminous!)

Black slave owners owned White slaves as well as Black slaves but it doesn't fit into the narrative that the liberals want so it isn't taught.

The majority of black slave owners were members of the mulatto class.

(Obama is mulatto so we can start there!)

White Europeans were the actual first indentured slaves that some, along with their children never saw freedom.

Anthony Johnson (b. c. 1600 – d. 1670) was a black Angolan who achieved freedom in the early 17th-century Colony of Virginia after serving his term of indenture. He became one of the first property owners and slaveholders of African birth there.

He was the first black indentured servant, the first free black, and the first to establish the first black community, first black landowner, first black slave owner, and the first person based on his court case to establish slavery legally in North America.
One could argue that he was the founder of slavery in Virginia.

In 1654, he brought a case before Virginia courts in which he contested a suit launched by one of his indentured servants, a Negro who adopted the name of John Casor.

Johnson won the suit and retained Casor as his servant for life.

This officially made Johnson the first legal slave owner in the British colonies that would eventually become the United States.

In 1652 John Johnson, Anthony Johnson's eldest son, purchased eleven incoming white males and females, and received 550 acres adjacent to his father.

There were a number of additional Virginia land patents representing grants to free blacks of from fifty to 550 acres for purchasing white redemptioners.


Like many wealthy landowners of the pre-Civil War South, Sherrod Bryant owned slaves. They probably worked much of Bryant's 700 acres in Middle Tennessee, an area larger than that of Andrew Jackson's Hermitage plantation.

The slaves under Bryant helped raise hogs for their owner, who had a large family and was always looking to buy more property. 
Sherrod Bryant was black.

Most indentured servants in the British colonies in America were actually Irish, English, German, and Scottish, rather than African.

Oh And: American Indians also owned slaves.

So-o-o .. where and who do we start with?

Let's not forget all the Chinese that were brought here. Many were settled in the MS Delta. Now many descendants are business owners there.

BTW, where are you and hoe are your conservative views accepted in your community?
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supsalemgr

Quote from: mrclose on July 19, 2019, 01:19:23 PM
I am in Chesterfield, Virginia, not far outside of Richmond.

I live in a middle class, mixed race area.
More folks than not have a higher education.

Politics are rarely discussed but the section of the county where I live has almost always voted republican (and for Trump).

I don't have or want any democrat friends so I don't know, (or care) how the other side feels!

My 'conservative friends' are of different backgrounds and races.



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