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[Solar]

Kid of 83.  lifelong republican and Reagan conservative.
Just don,t like this running down and ridiculing anyone that disagrees with you folks.
maybe you should stop trying to run a closed shop and give honest disageements, honest  answers

Then let me be blunt. You're either a liar or an idiot that's been asleep since Reagan.
Fact is, this is a TEA forum with an agenda of support of True Conservatives. The Nation is fed up with the two party system and making change.

The Dim party as you know it, is dead, the GOP stranglehold on the base, is also dead and TEA ideology is rightfully claiming it's place in the GOP, in fact, we're stealing the party from these bastards, people that have never put the Nations best interests first.
For you to assume nothing has changed is, like I said, a liar or someone that's been asleep the last three decades.
With TEA seizing over 1000 Legislative seats from the leftists over the last 4 years, and not have noticed this historical event is a display in virtually mind numbing ignorance in the current political system.

It might be better for you to sit back and learn something for a change instead of spewing pure ignorance.
Because what you see as ridicule over disagreement, is simply people telling you in certain terms, get the fuck out of the way, we're not listening to you enablers any longer.
The GOP has kept it's stranglehold on the electorate by threat of the alternative Dim party taking power.

That threat no longer exists or works because the Dim party hasn't a snowflakes chance in Hell of regaining power for decades to come, so to assume Bush has a shot due to no other option, simply no longer flies, the leftist threat is nonexistent, which is why the base is rallying around Cruz, we no longer have to settle for Establishment scum.
Got It?

[taxed]

Personally, I'd like to see a Cruz / Sanders election.  Two diametrically opposed ideologies.  Let everyone see where the US actually stands.

Yes!!

[gandb77]

The TEA PARTY is making great strides in many areas.
We have stopped Obama in his tracks, elected our House Speaker, Pushed for and gotten thru positive legislation, have our candidate as front runner in the republican primary race, and gotten rid of the power of the RINO republicans.
GREAT JOB.

Now, tell me,  Is that WISHFUL THINKING?
I am in full sympathy with Tea Party philosophy,, but lets be realistic.

[kit saginaw]

The TEA PARTY is making great strides in many areas.
We have stopped Obama in his tracks, elected our House Speaker, Pushed for and gotten thru positive legislation, have our candidate as front runner in the republican primary race, and gotten rid of the power of the RINO republicans.
GREAT JOB.

Now, tell me,  Is that WISHFUL THINKING?
I am in full sympathy with Tea Party philosophy,, but lets be realistic.

Evidence...  TEA is successful in candidates elected and legislation-awareness messaging.
Rationality... TEA hasn't morphed or changed because of its successes.
Reality...  TEA's setbacks are minimal.

So where does the 'wishing' come in?!?

TEA-supporters form opinions based on logic... hence it's logical to assess that the GOP-establishment's influence will continue waning.  There's no evidence that shows otherwise.  Jeb's approval-numbers dropped from 14% when he announced, to between 4%-and-6% where he's languished ever since.

[Solar]

The TEA PARTY is making great strides in many areas.
We have stopped Obama in his tracks, elected our House Speaker, Pushed for and gotten thru positive legislation, have our candidate as front runner in the republican primary race, and gotten rid of the power of the RINO republicans.
GREAT JOB.

Now, tell me,  Is that WISHFUL THINKING?
I am in full sympathy with Tea Party philosophy,, but lets be realistic.

About what?
I gave you a solid rundown of our successes and a view of what is to come, to see it any differently would be the perspective of a pessimist.
Seeing an obvious pattern does not make me an optimist, rather a realist in what is to be an expected outcome in 2016, one where Cruz seizes the WH, despite the wishes of the Establishment.

[gandb77]

About what?
I gave you a solid rundown of our successes and a view of what is to come, to see it any differently would be the perspective of a pessimist.
Seeing an obvious pattern does not make me an optimist, rather a realist in what is to be an expected outcome in 2016, one where Cruz seizes the WH, despite the wishes of the Establishment.

The TEA PARTY is not a party,  At best it is a collection of individuals that say they share the same views.   What are these views?
While you can say that the tea party has made gains on the local scene, the success on the national; scene has been minimal.
Is the front runner Trump a tea party candidate?   How about Carson, Rubio, or kashich.  Does Ted Cruz identify himself as a Tea Party candidate? 
And in congress.  I know of no Tea Party wing in the senate and in the house they prefer to identify themselves as the Freedom Caucus.
As I previously said, the Tea Party has been nullified by being incorporated into the Republican party
So rather than belittling and ridiculing those that disagree with you, why not take the time to evaluate what is being said and have an intelligent discussion.
I realize that on this forum there is a group of maybe four to five individuals that feel they run the show and really belittle everyone that they disagree with thru sarcasm, name calling, and pure hate statements.
So, I may try to find another forum where intelligent conversation can exist and the members are more receptive to intelligent discussion.
I now say ADIOS, for now,    but remember,  LIKE IT OR NOT , IT WILL BE A CLINTON-BUSH GENERAL ELECTION.       

[quiller]

I realize that on this forum there is a group of maybe four to five individuals that feel they run the show and really belittle everyone that they disagree with thru sarcasm, name calling, and pure hate statements.
So, I may try to find another forum where intelligent conversation can exist and the members are more receptive to intelligent discussion.
I now say ADIOS, for now,    but remember,  LIKE IT OR NOT , IT WILL BE A CLINTON-BUSH GENERAL ELECTION.

There are the forum owner, administrator and a few moderators. They really DO run the show, but not in the simpleminded way you imply. Had you actually tried to read and learn, and not read to disprove, you would already have your answers about Taxed Enough Already, and its desire to reduce government until it can be fit into a bathtub and then drowned.

As for your kind offer to deny us your presence.....

[Solar]

The TEA PARTY is not a party,  At best it is a collection of individuals that say they share the same views.   What are these views?
While you can say that the tea party has made gains on the local scene, the success on the national; scene has been minimal.
Is the front runner Trump a tea party candidate?   How about Carson, Rubio, or kashich.  Does Ted Cruz identify himself as a Tea Party candidate? 
And in congress.  I know of no Tea Party wing in the senate and in the house they prefer to identify themselves as the Freedom Caucus.
As I previously said, the Tea Party has been nullified by being incorporated into the Republican party
So rather than belittling and ridiculing those that disagree with you, why not take the time to evaluate what is being said and have an intelligent discussion.
I realize that on this forum there is a group of maybe four to five individuals that feel they run the show and really belittle everyone that they disagree with thru sarcasm, name calling, and pure hate statements.
So, I may try to find another forum where intelligent conversation can exist and the members are more receptive to intelligent discussion.
I now say ADIOS, for now,    but remember,  LIKE IT OR NOT , IT WILL BE A CLINTON-BUSH GENERAL ELECTION.

I see no reason to waste my time on the ignorant, a person incapable of grasping the simplest of concepts such as a shared ideology.
When Cruz is elected, come on back, his election will be all the rebuttal necessary in proving my points were all spot on.
I'll keep your Crow dinner warm.

[gandb77]

I see no reason to waste my time on the ignorant, a person incapable of grasping the simplest of concepts such as a shared ideology.
When Cruz is elected, come on back, his election will be all the rebuttal necessary in proving my points were all spot on.
I'll keep your Crow dinner warm.

My point exactly.  Don't waste your time on presenting your viewpoints.  Just call names . as always.
You sir, are the ignorant one.

[Solar]

My point exactly.  Don't waste your time on presenting your viewpoints.  Just call names . as always.
You sir, are the ignorant one.

Pure Bull Shit! I gave you a litany of evidence as to why Cruz will be the next POTUS, and your rebuttal?
Bush will be selected. No evidence, merely pleas to emotional based fear, no evidence other than:

Lets just watch.  Me-thinks that in the final analysis it will be a Bush - Clinton race.

No, it was you that failed to make your case, as evidenced by the OP itself "Me-thinks that in the final analysis it will be a Bush - Clinton race."
Followed by this bit of wisdom:

They are the parties chosen.
But I guess you all wouldn't understrand

That was it, that was all you offered in support of your emotionally based fear of a prediction.
So get off your ass, give us something tangible to support your nonsense.

[gandb77]

Who is the presidential candidate that is running under the banner as the TEA PARTY candidate?  Not just who we all prefer, but one who acknowledges as being a TEA PARTY candidate.

[Solar]

Who is the presidential candidate that is running under the banner as the TEA PARTY candidate?  Not just who we all prefer, but one who acknowledges as being a TEA PARTY candidate.

There is no such party, TEA is an ideology.
Which candidate most espouses TEA ideals?

I'm still waiting for you to make a case for your claims over a Clinton Bush runoff.

[supsalemgr]

Who is the presidential candidate that is running under the banner as the TEA PARTY candidate?  Not just who we all prefer, but one who acknowledges as being a TEA PARTY candidate.

Why do you keep talking about the TEA Party? As has been explained to you on numerous occasions there is no TEA Party.

[quiller]

Why do you keep talking about the TEA Party? As has been explained to you on numerous occasions there is no TEA Party.

Being too damned stupid to understand this, the moron keeps repeating the question. Ignore this troll. He's too ignorant to deserve the air he burns.

[quiller]

I'm still waiting for you to make a case for your claims over a Clinton Bush runoff.

I would like to hear his rationale for Trump being so far ahead in every poll and yet he supposedly will lose out to Bush, who's so deep in the polls you need a sherpa to track him. Maybe Our Genius Here™ can spare a few words on how Bush will do all that in a year.