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PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« on: February 27, 2018, 05:34:43 AM »
Info Wars. Yeah, I know, but it appears they've broken the story.

“Everything I was trained on mass casualty events says they did the wrong thing. You don’t wait for the scene to be cleared. You go in immediately armed. Retrieve the victims. You can’t leave the victims laying there.”

“We were asking to go in. Asking the scene commander to go in. Why are we all standing around? Why are we not having patients to treat? Why are we not going into the building and retrieving these kids? The response every time was law enforcement did not clear the scene and would not allow medical personnel in.”

“I would hypothesize I could have saved lives. I can’t say for sure.”

“I would have risked my life to go in. I was eager to.”

“I was frustrated the entire time I was there.”

“Rapid evacuation of the wounded. All they had to do was drag them out of the building. And we could have started medical care.”

“I think they made the decision they thought was right at the time. But I don’t think it was the right one. They should have been more aggressive about getting the victims out.”

“Can’t say for sure if the people were dead inside or if they could have helped.”

https://www.infowars.com/parkland-first-responder-i-was-told-to-stand-down-i-could-have-saved-lives/
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Re: PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2018, 09:15:47 AM »
Some Depts have a Policy of NOT entering on an active Shooter UNLESS A SWAT TEAM DOES THE INITIAL ENTRY. About the time I left the MPD the boneheads in upper management were trying to foist this policy on us, especially the plainclothes units, saying we couldn't do warrants unless SWAT was present. We'd been doing dynamic entry warrants all along, without incident I might add, but all of a sudden we have to have SWAT. Yeah screw you.

They came out with the same policy for an "Armed suspect" who ran into a building etc....NO HOT PERSUIT....secure perimeter and wait for SWAT.  Of course We violated the Shit out of that policy every chance we got....another reason I didn't get promoted to Captain. LOL.

BUT....I suspect this MIGHT be the case in Fla. We would have to see their Departmental policy or "general orders" on barricaded suspects or "active shooters", the first thing that came to mind when I heard that possiby four officers were hunkered down outside.

That idiot of a Sheriff looks like the type who would adopt such a policy.
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Re: PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2018, 09:40:53 AM »
Some Depts have a Policy of NOT entering on an active Shooter UNLESS A SWAT TEAM DOES THE INITIAL ENTRY. About the time I left the MPD the boneheads in upper management were trying to foist this policy on us, especially the plainclothes units, saying we couldn't do warrants unless SWAT was present. We'd been doing dynamic entry warrants all along, without incident I might add, but all of a sudden we have to have SWAT. Yeah screw you.

They came out with the same policy for an "Armed suspect" who ran into a building etc....NO HOT PERSUIT....secure perimeter and wait for SWAT.  Of course We violated the Shit out of that policy every chance we got....another reason I didn't get promoted to Captain. LOL.

BUT....I suspect this MIGHT be the case in Fla. We would have to see their Departmental policy or "general orders" on barricaded suspects or "active shooters", the first thing that came to mind when I heard that possiby four officers were hunkered down outside.

That idiot of a Sheriff looks like the type who would adopt such a policy.
Yet the local police entered anyway.
I've no doubt an inquiry into the matter will show that the sheriff has no business being in charge when all.
The right is going to make his incompetent the issue is what I expect to see.
I did a search to see what policies they had in place regarding SWAT, and they have none at this point in time.
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Re: PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2018, 01:37:13 PM »
Info Wars. Yeah, I know, but it appears they've broken the story.

“Everything I was trained on mass casualty events says they did the wrong thing. You don’t wait for the scene to be cleared. You go in immediately armed. Retrieve the victims. You can’t leave the victims laying there.”

“We were asking to go in. Asking the scene commander to go in. Why are we all standing around? Why are we not having patients to treat? Why are we not going into the building and retrieving these kids? The response every time was law enforcement did not clear the scene and would not allow medical personnel in.”

“I would hypothesize I could have saved lives. I can’t say for sure.”

“I would have risked my life to go in. I was eager to.”

“I was frustrated the entire time I was there.”

“Rapid evacuation of the wounded. All they had to do was drag them out of the building. And we could have started medical care.”

“I think they made the decision they thought was right at the time. But I don’t think it was the right one. They should have been more aggressive about getting the victims out.”

“Can’t say for sure if the people were dead inside or if they could have helped.”

https://www.infowars.com/parkland-first-responder-i-was-told-to-stand-down-i-could-have-saved-lives/

YouTube is trying to ban Jones over this. He's been smart and has been slowly migrating to BitChute, which I hope other content creators do as well:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/pAKD7RQd4sI/

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Re: PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2018, 04:04:40 PM »
Yet the local police entered anyway.
I've no doubt an inquiry into the matter will show that the sheriff has no business being in charge when all.
The right is going to make his incompetent the issue is what I expect to see.
I did a search to see what policies they had in place regarding SWAT, and they have none at this point in time.


The Local Police may have a different policy than the Sheriff's office.

I guarantee you there is a Deptmental Policy on this, however, such policy is usually NOT revealed to the Public because the Bad guys know what you are going to do. Force Policy USUALLY comes out in court when the Defense gets you on the stand and asks what your force policy is, they'll try to make a big issue out of it no matter what and try to convince the Jury you didn't follow departmental rules and guidelines when making an arrest and make it look like you did something wrong therefore the case shold be thrown out of court balh blah blah.

Wait and watch, the Sheriff's dept policy and TRAINING will be coming out publically when they get their asses sued off by surviving Family et al.  They'll also subpeonea "radio run" tapes to see if anyone was ordered to "stand down, secure until SWAT arrives"
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Re: PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2018, 04:16:35 AM »

The Local Police may have a different policy than the Sheriff's office.

I guarantee you there is a Deptmental Policy on this, however, such policy is usually NOT revealed to the Public because the Bad guys know what you are going to do. Force Policy USUALLY comes out in court when the Defense gets you on the stand and asks what your force policy is, they'll try to make a big issue out of it no matter what and try to convince the Jury you didn't follow departmental rules and guidelines when making an arrest and make it look like you did something wrong therefore the case shold be thrown out of court balh blah blah.

Wait and watch, the Sheriff's dept policy and TRAINING will be coming out publically when they get their asses sued off by surviving Family et al.  They'll also subpeonea "radio run" tapes to see if anyone was ordered to "stand down, secure until SWAT arrives"
I put myself in these deputies shoes, and honestly, I for the life of me can't figure out why none of them said F this shit, I'm going in.
I know for a fact I would have, most guys I worked with would have as well. These were kids being murdered by one guy and they could hear the shots and screams, so orders be damned unless you're either a coward or a total drone.
Thinking men know what to do.
Which makes me question just how embedded was the liberal mindset in the Broward sheriff's dept?
The sheriff is the final wall between tyranny and corruption, anyway, that's how it has always been, and police chiefs are political appointees, yet the exact opposite took place here, where the police reversed rolls and became the good guys.
I can't help but think the left targeted the sheriff's dept for destruction long ago and literally planted anti-American Marxists from the top down.
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Re: PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2018, 04:14:31 PM »

Which makes me question just how embedded was the liberal mindset in the Broward sheriff's dept?
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I can't help but think the left targeted the sheriff's dept for destruction long ago and literally planted anti-American Marxists from the top down.

Spot on..... It isn't just Broward county, I think this is a nationwide move to undermine the Chief Law Enforcment officer in our CJS system. Don't forget the great strength and also the great weakness the position of county sheriff is that such person MUST BE ELECTED. The Marxist party has finely honed the art of vote rigging, ballot stuffing and Illegals with stolen Identities voting.  Every now an again ones hears of a Sheriff who refuses to hold Illegals for ICE or to cooperate with the Feds under Trump.  It is usually some puppet in a leftist Bluer than Blue jurisdiction, since Sheriff's primarily maintain the lockups in most Jurisdictions outside of cities, corrupting them and filling their ranks with stooges is a good way to protect their pet illegals from ICE.
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Re: PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2018, 06:49:18 PM »
Spot on..... It isn't just Broward county, I think this is a nationwide move to undermine the Chief Law Enforcment officer in our CJS system. Don't forget the great strength and also the great weakness the position of county sheriff is that such person MUST BE ELECTED. The Marxist party has finely honed the art of vote rigging, ballot stuffing and Illegals with stolen Identities voting.  Every now an again ones hears of a Sheriff who refuses to hold Illegals for ICE or to cooperate with the Feds under Trump.  It is usually some puppet in a leftist Bluer than Blue jurisdiction, since Sheriff's primarily maintain the lockups in most Jurisdictions outside of cities, corrupting them and filling their ranks with stooges is a good way to protect their pet illegals from ICE.
Yep, sadly, I watched Sacramento go down this road 4 decades back. It started with a moderate, then a squishy, and now another Broward type.
I remember the early 60s, Sheriff Mysterly going to the County line and stopping the Hells Angels from entering, they claimed it was unconstitutional, that is, until he said, then fine, let me see everyone's ID.
They happily turned around and left, they knew they were not welcome, though this was 1962, if memory serves me. The Sheriff was protecting the town because he'd gotten word they were coming in to fight with a rival gang, which Mysterly had already kicked to the curb prior.

You're right, the left has slowly and steadily been infiltrating the last bastion of order in select counties.
It's too bad this had to happen, but it exposed a cancer in law enforcement.
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Re: PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2018, 08:34:58 PM »
Why didn't he go in anyway?

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Re: PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2018, 08:57:29 PM »
Why didn't he go in anyway?
I would have, but then, I never was one to take illegal orders.
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Re: PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2018, 09:17:40 AM »
Why didn't he go in anyway?


Well only He knows why, Remember, these "PC social workers with badges" are not cops, Phonies like Sheriff Isreal want a certain type of recruit. They are hiring less Military vets and hiring more "diversified" cops nowadays. Lowering standards and lowering training in the process.  We had chickenshits in my day, but we usually got them off the streets and put them in admin positions etc.  Problem is these types are the ones to study for the tests, don't have any complaints from citizens and usually score high on the promotional tests, next thing you know he/she is a Captain/Chief inspector and never made a Felony arrest. This is the type of idiot that makes policy.
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Re: PARKLAND FIRST RESPONDER: I WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2018, 09:50:06 AM »


Well only He knows why, Remember, these "PC social workers with badges" are not cops, Phonies like Sheriff Isreal want a certain type of recruit. They are hiring less Military vets and hiring more "diversified" cops nowadays. Lowering standards and lowering training in the process.  We had chickenshits in my day, but we usually got them off the streets and put them in admin positions etc.  Problem is these types are the ones to study for the tests, don't have any complaints from citizens and usually score high on the promotional tests, next thing you know he/she is a Captain/Chief inspector and never made a Felony arrest. This is the type of idiot that makes policy.
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