NYC Slimes: America Isn't That Great

[alienhand]

Yep, you define what success is to you. Too many set unachievable goals, the best goals are the small ones along the way so many overlook.

I was about to refute what you said about success before until I realized I've been indoctrinated and the very definitions and assumptions I've been using are all part of that indoctrination.  I think I'm breaking free of it.  The left are like the reapers of mass effect.

Bingo!!! Marxists destroyed the education system. Conservatives are rebuilding it via the Web and trade schools.

really?  Got any examples off hand?

[alienhand]

What if the left wanted me and others to fail.  Present one path as the only path and when we fail we become dependent on them.

[Solar]

I was about to refute what you said about success before until I realized I've been indoctrinated and the very definitions and assumptions I've been using are all part of that indoctrination.  I think I'm breaking free of it.  The left are like the reapers of mass effect.

really?  Got any examples off hand?

Note the word Free.
https://www.hillsdale.edu/academics/free-online-courses/

[Solar]

What if the left wanted me and others to fail.  Present one path as the only path and when we fail we become dependent on them.

That may not have been in the plan originally, but no doubt they benefit from failures. Their entire constituency consists of failed victim groups.

[Cryptic Bert]

I love this. I really do. They still haven't figured why they lost in 2016.

[Possum]

When you mean "anyone can succeed" do you mean anyone can define what success means for themselves and can do what it takes to achieve this success they define for themselves while making mistakes along the way?  And, the only one who gets in the way is a.  yourself and b. gov't?

Holy shit, those who are in education are mostly leftists.

They're the ones who made the cirrcula.

They're the ones who made it seem like only one path existed.

The leftists lied.

Another definition: no group, color, or background of people is barred from trying to be successful. There are no guarantees, but everyone can try.

[alienhand]

Another definition: no group, color, or background of people is barred from trying to be successful. There are no guarantees, but everyone can try.

I think I understand.   Just to make sure. "barred from trying to be successful" means that no law can be passed (federal, state, local, district, etc etc) that prevents one from defining what success means to a person and coming up and taking the steps to be successful in one's endeavor?  It does not mean that others should be forced to give one success?

[Solar]

I love this. I really do. They still haven't figured why they lost in 2016.

And until they do, they'll continue to shrink in numbers.

[Rebecca]

America:  Be yourself!

America:  Not like that!  You are to be the self we expect you to be.

Bible:  Luke 12:15 Then he said to them, "Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions."

America:  Greed is good!  Capitalism is and Money is God!

Statue of Liberty:  Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

Immigration Policy:  Make the policy so intricate that only the best and brightest get in.

Bible:  Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will reward them for what they have done. — Proverbs 19:17 and My whole being will exclaim, "Who is like you, Lord? You rescue the poor from those too strong for them, the poor and needy from those who rob them." — Psalm 35:10  "Because the poor are plundered and the needy groan, I will now arise," says the Lord. "I will protect them from those who malign them." — Psalm 12:5 Give generously to [the poor] and do so without a grudging heart, then because of this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in everything you put your hand to. There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your fellow Israelites who are poor and needy in your land. — Deuteronomy 15:10-11

America:  If you are poor it is your fault you are poor no matter the circumstances. Being poor is based upon the decisions you have made in your life.

How is the USA a Christian nation exactly when Jesus Christ himself says the complete opposite of what America is all about?

Jesus said quite clearly that we are to help the poor, widows and orphans, and our neighbor. He did not say we were to give most of our earnings to Rome to distribute. His message has always been and still endures as one of personal responsibility. He also clearly instructed us to obey the law. If you think the plight of the world's poor and dispossessed can be solved by bypassing God, breaking the laws of nations, and ignoring personal responsibility to help when and where we can and are so moved, you are probably a Democrat and my friend, you are in error.

[supsalemgr]

Jesus said quite clearly that we are to help the poor, widows and orphans, and our neighbor. He did not say we were to give most of our earnings to Rome to distribute. His message has always been and still endures as one of personal responsibility. He also clearly instructed us to obey the law. If you think the plight of the world's poor and dispossessed can be solved by bypassing God, breaking the laws of nations, and ignoring personal responsibility to help when and where we can and are so moved, you are probably a Democrat and my friend, you are in error.

Well said. 

[alienhand]

Jesus said quite clearly that we are to help the poor, widows and orphans, and our neighbor. He did not say we were to give most of our earnings to Rome to distribute. His message has always been and still endures as one of personal responsibility. He also clearly instructed us to obey the law. If you think the plight of the world's poor and dispossessed can be solved by bypassing God, breaking the laws of nations, and ignoring personal responsibility to help when and where we can and are so moved, you are probably a Democrat and my friend, you are in error.

Ah I see!   So, what you're saying is that these messages, edicts, etc was for us as individuals to do in our own personal lives and volition for others with our own money and not do it through distribution through "Rome" as you call it?

And, this makes me wonder though.  Are there separate commandments and edicts for governments and separate commandments and edicts for individuals?  And, the edicts and commandments that tell us to help the poor are meant for individuals and not governments? 

Am I correct on everything here or at least on the right track?  Or, am I way off base?

Rebecca, if it comes across as that I'm extremely abrasive and argumentative I do apologize for that.  My social skills aren't the best even though I'm trying.  I've never been to charm school.  So, please forgive me?

And, thanks for addressing this.

[Solar]

Ah I see!   So, what you're saying is that these messages, edicts, etc was for us as individuals to do in our own personal lives and volition for others with our own money and not do it through distribution through "Rome" as you call it?

And, this makes me wonder though.  Are there separate commandments and edicts for governments and separate commandments and edicts for individuals?  And, the edicts and commandments that tell us to help the poor are meant for individuals and not governments? 

Am I correct on everything here or at least on the right track?  Or, am I way off base?

Rebecca, if it comes across as that I'm extremely abrasive and argumentative I do apologize for that.  My social skills aren't the best even though I'm trying.  I've never been to charm school.  So, please forgive me?

You know what happens to post that derail the subject, Right? This is not about religion.

[alienhand]

You know what happens to post that derail the subject, Right? This is not about religion.

Oh!  Sorry Solar.

New thread:

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/new-board/america-a-christian-nation/

Problem Solved!

Again, sorry for derailing!

Everything all Good now?