This one could be really bad. Problem thought... the NWS has been crying WOLF for so long, and getting everyone in such a panic who knows if this is going to suddenly turn north and miss Florida, turn into Florida, or take a swipe at New Orleans? They seem to be pretty set on it hitting the Florida Keys.
I haven't heard any reports of Gators hanging out, jaws wide open, hoping to snatch a couple of Hurricane plucked Chickens flying by...
Maybe Mrs. Independence has some insight to share?
What's this? Sure hope it's FAKE NEWS.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/05/virgin-islands-allows-national-guard-to-seize-guns-ammo-ahead-of-hurricane-irma/
QuoteU.S. Virgin Islands Gov. Kenneth Mapp signed an emergency order allowing the seizure of private guns, ammunition, explosives and property the National Guard may need to respond to Hurricane Irma.
Mapp signed the order Monday in preparation for Hurricane Irma. The order allows the Adjutant General of the Virgin Islands to seize private property they believe necessary to protect the islands, subject to approval by the territory's Justice Department.
Mapp issued an emergency declaration Tuesday and mobilized National Guard units to prepare for the massive storm.
At a time when the homeowner would need guns for home defense the most - this makes no sense at all.
Wanna bet they finally adopt a Constitution after this bull shit?
Quote from: Solar on September 05, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
Wanna bet they finally adopt a Constitution after this bull shit?
They adopted one back in 2009, but it was shot down by both houses of the Democrat Congress and Obama in 2010.
The VI government is a Democrat stronghold. No Republican has served in a major position since 1998. There are currently no Republicans in the territorial legislature.
I think a little strong-arm gun confiscation would be just hunky-dory with the powers that be there. Hard to believe that the VI citizens who have elected such a left-wing political structure would suddenly grow a fondness for a constitution that may or may not protect their rights.
Of course, it strikes me that folks in a place where there are only about 7 men for every 8 women over the age of 18 might have other things on their minds..... :tounge:
Quote from: Hoofer on September 05, 2017, 03:34:00 PM
What's this? Sure hope it's FAKE NEWS.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/05/virgin-islands-allows-national-guard-to-seize-guns-ammo-ahead-of-hurricane-irma/
At a time when the homeowner would need guns for home defense the most - this makes no sense at all.
Just liberals trying to take advantage of a disaster to confiscate guns.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 06, 2017, 04:21:02 AM
Just liberals trying to take advantage of a disaster to confiscate guns.
Read it to Wifey, she said "lately" women are better defenders of freedom than men. -ouch-
Probably men trying to disarm women & level the playing field.
Quote from: Hoofer on September 06, 2017, 04:55:47 AM
Read it to Wifey, she said "lately" women are better defenders of freedom than men. -ouch-
Probably men trying to disarm women & level the playing field.
Most definitely true on the left, where men wear women's clothes and women fight for the right to murder innocent human beings.
How freakin backwards is that?
Where men are women, wear Pink Pussy hats and cower in fear while searching for a "Safe Space".
Quote from: Hoofer on September 05, 2017, 02:10:12 PM
This one could be really bad. Problem thought... the NWS has been crying WOLF for so long, and getting everyone in such a panic who knows if this is going to suddenly turn north and miss Florida, turn into Florida, or take a swipe at New Orleans? They seem to be pretty set on it hitting the Florida Keys.
I haven't heard any reports of Gators hanging out, jaws wide open, hoping to snatch a couple of Hurricane plucked Chickens flying by...
Maybe Mrs. Independence has some insight to share?
After Andrew, I think they tend to error on the side of the worst case scenario, but when you have a Cat 5 heading for you; you best pay attention. It's heading our way and I don't think there's any crying wolf at all on this one. Meanwhile I've been hunting around for days to find a pet-friendly (hubby's mutt not mine) hotel to escape to. Everything is booked; I looked east and west of I-75 and on up into TN. I finally got a reservation in a not so good hotel in a not so good part of town and have tickets to the GA aquarium, so better than nothing at this point. We were planning to stay with family in NC, but that didn't seem like a good option after she's predicted to hit the east coast. This hurricane is going to be an absolute nightmare for those who get hit. It's projected to hit the Keys and take a sharp turn to the east, pummel Broward and Miami/Dade and on up into the Carolina's . We'll see. I think its way too early to feel comfortable with its path. If it doesn't take that sharp turn to the east like they think, the Gulf coast will be devastated by the Cat 5 with heavy flooding and it'll move up the middle of the state and possibly into GA -- just where most people headed to escape.
Quote from: Ms.Independence on September 06, 2017, 05:26:27 PM
After Andrew, I think they tend to error on the side of the worst case scenario, but when you have a Cat 5 heading for you; you best pay attention. It's heading our way and I don't think there's any crying wolf at all on this one. Meanwhile I've been hunting around for days to find a pet-friendly (hubby's mutt not mine) hotel to escape to. Everything is booked; I looked east and west of I-75 and on up into TN. I finally got a reservation in a not so good hotel in a not so good part of town and have tickets to the GA aquarium, so better than nothing at this point. We were planning to stay with family in NC, but that didn't seem like a good option after she's predicted to hit the east coast. This hurricane is going to be an absolute nightmare for those who get hit. It's projected to hit the Keys and take a sharp turn to the east, pummel Broward and Miami/Dade and on up into the Carolina's . We'll see. I think its way too early to feel comfortable with its path. If it doesn't take that sharp turn to the east like they think, the Gulf coast will be devastated by the Cat 5 with heavy flooding and it'll move up the middle of the state and possibly into GA -- just where most people headed to escape.
No matter how you slice it, this is going to be bad regardless.
Stay safe.
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Quote from: Ms.Independence on September 06, 2017, 05:26:27 PM
After Andrew, I think they tend to error on the side of the worst case scenario, but when you have a Cat 5 heading for you; you best pay attention. It's heading our way and I don't think there's any crying wolf at all on this one. Meanwhile I've been hunting around for days to find a pet-friendly (hubby's mutt not mine) hotel to escape to. Everything is booked; I looked east and west of I-75 and on up into TN. I finally got a reservation in a not so good hotel in a not so good part of town and have tickets to the GA aquarium, so better than nothing at this point. We were planning to stay with family in NC, but that didn't seem like a good option after she's predicted to hit the east coast. This hurricane is going to be an absolute nightmare for those who get hit. It's projected to hit the Keys and take a sharp turn to the east, pummel Broward and Miami/Dade and on up into the Carolina's . We'll see. I think its way too early to feel comfortable with its path. If it doesn't take that sharp turn to the east like they think, the Gulf coast will be devastated by the Cat 5 with heavy flooding and it'll move up the middle of the state and possibly into GA -- just where most people headed to escape.
I wish you well. Be careful. Some parts of ATL may be worse than a cat 5.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 07, 2017, 04:49:27 AM
I wish you well. Be careful. Some parts of ATL may be worse than a cat 5.
Yes, I've checked the crime rate where we have reservations and it's pretty high; I woke up this morning thinking about staying in ATL vs. staying put. Right now, most of the forecast models show the hurricane shifting north east around Saturday. Hopefully she'll make that turn as predicted, otherwise we'll be in trouble as Saturday will be too late to leave. IF by Friday they have reason to believe she's not going to take that turn then we'll probably venture out. (At this point, I know it's a gamble) Definitely not looking forward to that 'venture' at all. Growing up around the Detroit area I tend to be cautious, but a few years ago I had to visit Miami to see a specialist. I will never go back for anything for any reason ... give me Detroit.
Quote from: Ms.Independence on September 07, 2017, 05:43:16 AM
Yes, I've checked the crime rate where we have reservations and it's pretty high; I woke up this morning thinking about staying in ATL vs. staying put. Right now, most of the forecast models show the hurricane shifting north east around Saturday. Hopefully she'll make that turn as predicted, otherwise we'll be in trouble as Saturday will be too late to leave. IF by Friday they have reason to believe she's not going to take that turn then we'll probably venture out. (At this point, I know it's a gamble) Definitely not looking forward to that 'venture' at all. Growing up around the Detroit area I tend to be cautious, but a few years ago I had to visit Miami to see a specialist. I will never go back for anything for any reason ... give me Detroit.
May I ask what part of town or suburb are your reservations? I grew up there.
Irma appears to be tracking a bit more to the East as opposed to the track map.
Hit refresh every hour or so, this is live visible satellite, but you can't see it after the sun goes down.
http://www.intellicast.com/Storm/Hurricane/Active.aspx?storm=2&type=visible&animate=true&enlarge=true
Looking at the analysis, Katina turned into the Gulf and is now crossing the peninsula. Though Irma appears to be heading towards the East side of Florida, it is suddenly steering a bit West, in just the last two hours, with Jose hot on its heels.
Wonder if a miracle might occur and have it follow Katina's path? I did say miracle. :unsure:
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Quote from: Solar on September 07, 2017, 12:56:30 PM
Looking at the analysis, Katina turned into the Gulf and is now crossing the peninsula. Though Irma appears to be heading towards the East side of Florida, it is suddenly steering a bit West, in just the last two hours, with Jose hot on its heels.
Wonder if a miracle might occur and have it follow Katina's path? I did say miracle. :unsure:
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Latest track shows it as a possible tropical storm right over Hendersonville Tuesday morning.
Quote from: Ms.Independence on September 07, 2017, 05:43:16 AM
Yes, I've checked the crime rate where we have reservations and it's pretty high; I woke up this morning thinking about staying in ATL vs. staying put. Right now, most of the forecast models show the hurricane shifting north east around Saturday. Hopefully she'll make that turn as predicted, otherwise we'll be in trouble as Saturday will be too late to leave. IF by Friday they have reason to believe she's not going to take that turn then we'll probably venture out. (At this point, I know it's a gamble) Definitely not looking forward to that 'venture' at all. Growing up around the Detroit area I tend to be cautious, but a few years ago I had to visit Miami to see a specialist. I will never go back for anything for any reason ... give me Detroit.
Got family in Lake Placid and Bear Hollow - and they live in "Hurrican proof" houses... yeah, right, they got out. Be careful, please.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 07, 2017, 06:12:54 AM
May I ask what part of town or suburb are your reservations? I grew up there.
Conley.
Kind of weird. Though I doubt beyond appearance, they are in no way the same as 2010.
Their ceiling temps aren't the same, Igor's tops were -63 degrees Farenheight.
(https://s.w-x.co/wu/trio-hurricanes-2010-2017.jpg)
I have a feeling Irma is going to lose strength considerably before it reaches Florida, anyway, not the monster they first believed would come ashore.
Rain, waves, will be bad, but not the winds they expected.
Quote from: Solar on September 08, 2017, 09:24:09 AM
I have a feeling Irma is going to lose strength considerably before it reaches Florida, anyway, not the monster they first believed would come ashore.
Rain, waves, will be bad, but not the winds they expected.
It is still a cat 4 with 155mph winds. Still no turn to the north at 2:00PM EDT update. If it does not turn fairly soon the eye could go up the west coast over water. Not good. The one good thing is forward speed is at 14mph and the faster the better.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 08, 2017, 11:05:38 AM
It is still a cat 4 with 155mph winds. Still no turn to the north at 2:00PM EDT update. If it does not turn fairly soon the eye could go up the west coast over water. Not good. The one good thing is forward speed is at 14mph and the faster the better.
It looked like it would lose energy as it clipped Cuba, but no such luck.
Quote from: Solar on September 08, 2017, 12:20:44 PM
It looked like it would lose energy as it clipped Cuba, but no such luck.
It is already a zoo in ATL where everyone is trying to go.
NEWS FLASH: It is supposed a tropical storm right over ATL on Monday based on the current track.
Just heard Hurricane "Jose" is following the same track as "Irma"... about the same relative strength too!
Soooo.. unpredictable, and dangerous.
(https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/11L_tracks_latest.png)
Quote from: Hoofer on September 08, 2017, 06:00:47 PM
Soooo.. unpredictable, and dangerous.
(https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/11L_tracks_latest.png)
Sooooo, True. I know they say it will turn north, but the last time a Hurricane did what the last one just did to Mexico, happened about ten years ago, where a hurricane was on this same path, just about to devastate Mexico, when they had a 7.0+ and the hurricane instantly fell apart, as if the two were symbiotic in nature.
I wonder what effect it will have on this one?
Was talking to a few people today at an event, one couple was from Alabama, the other from Louisiana. Both were taking a long route to get home from Virginia Beach, VA. All the hotels are booked solid in the major cities in Tennessee, for this thing. When I mentioned being stuck in the I-85 traffic following the Eclipse... just imagine, instead of a few thousand people trying to return home, compared to millions trying to get back to Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Alabama!
Gas stations along the I-95 corridor are .20 higher per gallon too!
Quote from: Hoofer on September 09, 2017, 06:49:49 PM
Was talking to a few people today at an event, one couple was from Alabama, the other from Louisiana. Both were taking a long route to get home from Virginia Beach, VA. All the hotels are booked solid in the major cities in Tennessee, for this thing. When I mentioned being stuck in the I-85 traffic following the Eclipse... just imagine, instead of a few thousand people trying to return home, compared to millions trying to get back to Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Alabama!
Gas stations along the I-95 corridor are .20 higher per gallon too!
Well Diesel fuel has jumped 45¢ in Washington State. Some one is making so money off this.
Quote from: walkstall on September 09, 2017, 06:55:56 PM
Well Diesel fuel has jumped 45¢ in Washington State. Some one is making so money off this.
I should have stated it as, gas is 20 cents a gallon higher along the I-95 corridore, than the current prices (just a couple of miles away) - which are already 50 cents higher than before.
Live broadcast on Youtube from south Florida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sm8A-u1vIA&spfreload=10
A reporter stopped a jogger, asked if she knew she was in a mandatory evacuation area. She said she had not decided whether or not they would leave... Naturally, she was late teens or early twenties - still invincible, in her own mind.
Quote from: Hoofer on September 10, 2017, 05:29:14 AM
Live broadcast on Youtube from south Florida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sm8A-u1vIA&spfreload=10
A reporter stopped a jogger, asked if she knew she was in a mandatory evacuation area. She said she had not decided whether or not they would leave... Naturally, she was late teens or early twenties - still invincible, in her own mind.
Having been in the insurance industry for 47 years I continue to be amazed that too many folks don't understand storm surge. That is the real killer. A 6 foot storm surge is deadly. Even if one is over six feet tall the power of the moving water cannot be overcome.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 10, 2017, 05:45:02 AM
Having been in the insurance industry for 47 years I continue to be amazed that too many folks don't understand storm surge. That is the real killer. A 6 foot storm surge is deadly. Even if one is over six feet tall the power of the moving water cannot be overcome.
Listening to the live broadcast, they're saying several people didn't know they were in an evacuation zone!!!
Several houses are not boarded up, then they cut away to a tree that's fallen, blocking 3 lanes of traffic.
They got tornadoes all over the place - what are these knuckleheads thinking?
Do these people think the
roadways would always be wide open to run at the last minute!?!?!?
This broadcast is originating from Tampa.
I'm getting the impression... the folks who could have left, but stayed behind, will be the first ones crying in front of a TV camera, "We lost everything, boo-hoo!!!" - or in a body bag, loading into an ambulance.
Impressive, it turned right where models said it would. Just think, if Warmers actually had one tenth the data we have on Irma, they'd give up this silly lie that man affects the weather.
Hell, we can't even kill, let alone steer a hurricane yet. Hell, as humans, we're so stupid that many in Fl. stayed home to watch the event take place. :blink:
Quote from: Solar on September 10, 2017, 07:40:37 AM
Impressive, it turned right where models said it would. Just think, if Warmers actually had one tenth the data we have on Irma, they'd give up this silly lie that man affects the weather.
Hell, we can't even kill, let alone steer a hurricane yet. Hell, as humans, we're so stupid that many in Fl. stayed home to watch the event take place. :blink:
A 13yr veteran cop died in a car crash. So, people are dying trying to keep stupid people from dying.
Curfew just issued - WHY!? It's already illegal to be there during a mandatory evacuation, in Florida. So, the Cops get to risk their lives for stupid people trying to beat the "Darwin effect."
Quote from: Hoofer on September 10, 2017, 08:42:12 AM
A 13yr veteran cop died in a car crash. So, people are dying trying to keep stupid people from dying.
Curfew just issued - WHY!? It's already illegal to be there during a mandatory evacuation, in Florida. So, the Cops get to risk their lives for stupid people trying to beat the "Darwin effect."
There obviously needs to be a law that states police and fire leave the city 24 hrs prior, anyone staying behind is on their own.
You couldn't pay me enough to battle 8' waves and 130+ winds in a cop cruiser. Sorry lady, you got the same warning we all did, sink, swim, or sail bitch, but your ass is on its own.
Well, was it all it was hyped out to be?
Came ashore with a vengeance and disappeared over night.
Quote from: Solar on September 11, 2017, 05:26:36 AM
Well, was it all it was hyped out to be?
Came ashore with a vengeance and disappeared over night.
It always helps to have the storm over land. We are still expecting 30-40mph gusts and 2"-3" of rain this evening in the WNC mountains.
"Never let a serious crisis go to waste"
Quote from: walkstall on September 12, 2017, 03:38:35 AM
"Never let a serious crisis go to waste"
So far 10 deaths reported due to Irma. Any loss of life is terrible, but that is a low number for the magnitude of the storm. I'm sure more will be found once we know what the extent of damage in the Keys is determined.
Up here in the WNC mountains it is still raining from remnants of the storm and to last into this afternoon. We have 5000 in my county without power due to the winds last night.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 12, 2017, 04:09:19 AM
So far 10 deaths reported due to Irma. Any loss of life is terrible, but that is a low number for the magnitude of the storm. I'm sure more will be found once we know what the extent of damage in the Keys is determined.
Up here in the WNC mountains it is still raining from remnants of the storm and to last into this afternoon. We have 5000 in my county without power due to the winds last night.
We in the Northwest have 28 large forest fires or grasslands fires. We have not had clean air for over a month. And this is not counting 23 fires burning in California.
https://www.westernjournalism.com/trumps-caribbean-estate-survives-irma-nearly-unscathed/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=ConservativeTribune&utm_content=2017-09-13&utm_campaign=manualpost
QuotePresident Donald Trump's estate on the Caribbean island of St. Martin survived Hurricane Irma nearly unscathed, while fellow billionaire Richard Branson's private estate in the British Virgin Islands did not fare as well.
Citing photos taken of the property, USA Today reported that Trump's Chateau des Palmiers located on the French-controlled side of the island "is still standing with hardly a single roof tile lost."
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What kind of Hurricane is this Irma?!?!?! wiping out liberals, Richard Branson, and sparing - >gasp< Donald Trump!?
Was it a neo-conservative hurricane...? :ohmy: Life is not fair for Liberals.
QuoteTrump had listed the property for sale by Sotheby's International Realty for $16.9 million prior to the storm.
The Category 5 hurricane, with sustained winds of 185 mph, destroyed 95 percent of the rest of the island, according to USA Today.
Moral of the story - Donald Trump, the builder & real estate financier *knows* how to build Hurricane proof buildings.
With all the rebuilding about to start, people would be wise to consult Trump associates, eh?