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Hurricane Harvey
« on: August 27, 2017, 08:25:53 PM »
If anyone in this forum is in TX -- my heartfelt prayers for you. 

The extreme devastation to TX is incredible and may soon be recognized as the worst disaster in U.S. history - rain is in the forecast to continue for several more days - up to 50 inches.



Nursing home was finally rescued ...

www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/flooded-nursing-home-residents-trnd/index.html

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https://www.mercuryone.org/

https://www.samaritanspurse.org/disaster/hurricane-harvey/
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2017, 08:48:09 PM »
Wow.  ??? This was moved???   Seen as not newsworthy and a distraction?  Ok then. 
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2017, 08:59:55 PM »
Wow.  ??? This was moved???   Seen as not newsworthy and a distraction?  Ok then.
I didn't move it, but it isn't political, I'd have posted it in miscellaneous.

My daughter in law is in Houston, said it's a mess in certain areas, but it's the rain and tornado warnings that seem unending, she said aside from all the mess, life is going on as normal, people are working normal jobs and doing normal stuff as to be expected.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2017, 09:39:08 PM »
I didn't move it, but it isn't political, I'd have posted it in miscellaneous.

My daughter in law is in Houston, said it's a mess in certain areas, but it's the rain and tornado warnings that seem unending, she said aside from all the mess, life is going on as normal, people are working normal jobs and doing normal stuff as to be expected.


Don't let a crisis go to waste for FREE money. 

But then we do pay taxes for things like this.

Will this be Bush's or Trump's fault.

We know it not b o fault as he always leads from behind.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2017, 09:46:08 PM »
If anyone in this forum is in TX -- my heartfelt prayers for you. 

The extreme devastation to TX is incredible and may soon be recognized as the worst disaster in U.S. history - rain is in the forecast to continue for several more days - up to 50 inches.



Nursing home was finally rescued ...

www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/flooded-nursing-home-residents-trnd/index.html

Donations:

https://www.mercuryone.org/

https://www.samaritanspurse.org/disaster/hurricane-harvey/

I take it the nursing home did not have a back door.   :rolleyes:
The land looks dry in back. 
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2017, 06:56:03 AM »

Don't let a crisis go to waste for FREE money. 

But then we do pay taxes for things like this.

Will this be Bush's or Trump's fault.

We know it not b o fault as he always leads from behind.
Yep, as bad as this storm was, more lives were lost in a week in Detroit. Not to downplay those affected, but truth is, it the loss was preventable in most cases. People could have left the area, they had plenty of warning.

I truly am sorry for people's loss, but the fact is, this is life, we all suffer loss, we all die from one cause or another.
If I sound harsh, so be it, but I will not feign sympathy for people that moved to an area known for its harsh weather, be it hurricanes, heat or tornadoes, it's the place they chose to live, just like I chose to live in an area where one day, all will burn in a forest fire, that's a given, but it was my choice, just like it was theirs.

It will be interesting to see how the media spins all the moochers with their hands out for govt aid, when in fact, the true Texan will simply take off his good cowboy boots and put on waders and go about his business.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2017, 07:02:33 AM »
?? Walks, saying a prayer for you as well.  This is going to be by far one of the most catastrophic hurricanes in U.S. history and they are still expecting more rain, more devastation.  Yes a little of our tax dollars go towards emergencies and we pay dearly for insurance; some won't have insurance, I guarantee it. With the enormity and severity of this storm it is going to take many years for Texas to make a full recovery.  This will have an impact on our economy for certain from gasoline prices, to more stringent building codes to higher insurance costs.

Compassion towards ones' neighbors is what will get Texans through this.  I've been through several hurricanes with Charley being the worst.  Not fun being in a shelter, leaving the shelter afterwards and dodging fallen power lines and trees, wading in several feet of water checking on loved ones and coming home to your son holding on to our sailboat.  If you don't care to donate a few pennies or say a few prayers, that's totally up to you.

Prayers for those in TX and those especially in Houston ....

Lord God, we pray for relief for those impacted by Harvey and ask that further rainfall is minimal  in Houston and the surrounding areas. We ask for protection for those who have lost their homes, for those affected by flooding, and for those who will be affected in the days ahead.

Please bless and protect the first responders, agencies and volunteers working to rescue and bring hope to South Texas.

    In Jesus Name,

    Amen
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2017, 07:59:40 AM »
We're from the govt and here to help, so don't worry, it's only a rainstorm.... WTF? Why did they lie to the people? THis is what Californian's expect from the state, so we always do the exact opposite, but Texas?

This lady was Spot On!!!




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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2017, 09:46:37 AM »
We're from the govt and here to help, so don't worry, it's only a rainstorm.... WTF? Why did they lie to the people? THis is what Californian's expect from the state, so we always do the exact opposite, but Texas?

This lady was Spot On!!!




https://twitter.com/ReadyHarris/status/900852278395056128/photo/1

Apparently Governor Abbot (R) suggested that people evacuate; meanwhile the mayor of Houston (D) said evacuating would do more harm than good and that people would be trapped on the freeways.  IMHO, they could have designated ALL lanes of ALL highways in the areas as exits; that would have increased the amount of lanes to exit twofold.  They could have sent in school buses, commercial buses, airport shuttles, army vehicles, etc. to minimize the amount of vehicles ... but get the people who wanted the heck out of Dodge, out!
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2017, 09:51:56 AM »
Apparently Governor Abbot (R) suggested that people evacuate; meanwhile the mayor of Houston (D) said evacuating would do more harm than good and that people would be trapped on the freeways.  IMHO, they could have designated ALL lanes of ALL highways in the areas as exits; that would have increased the amount of lanes to exit twofold.  They could have sent in school buses, commercial buses, airport shuttles, army vehicles, etc. to minimize the amount of vehicles ... but get the people who wanted the heck out of Dodge, out!
Yep, lying to people just put him on notice for a recall. This has shades of Katrina painted all over it, and for what? Incompetence?
This explains why people stayed when it wasn't safe to do so.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2017, 02:35:59 PM »
There is argument that there wasn't enough time to evacuate people and that the intensity of the storm was unknown.  Yeppers, hurricanes are unpredictable, but you mean to tell me that they were able to predict the amount of rainfall, the likely storm surge, that it was going to hit along the TX coast and possibly into Louisiana, yet didn't have a clue as to how big it was? Horse puckey!  Meteorologists and scientists have models that they play with showing different scenarios, from the least likely scenario to most likely and you take the worse cast scenario and you plan from there hoping for the best. Yes, Harvey developed very quickly; but when you have a Cat 2 hurricane barreling at you chances are it's going to intensify. You start evacuating people in low lying areas; TX isn't exactly filled with mountains along the coast and Huston isn't all that far inland.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2017, 02:42:43 PM »
There is argument that there wasn't enough time to evacuate people and that the intensity of the storm was unknown.  Yeppers, hurricanes are unpredictable, but you mean to tell me that they were able to predict the amount of rainfall, the likely storm surge, that it was going to hit along the TX coast and possibly into Louisiana, yet didn't have a clue as to how big it was? Horse puckey!  Meteorologists and scientists have models that they play with showing different scenarios, from the least likely scenario to most likely and you take the worse cast scenario and you plan from there hoping for the best. Yes, Harvey developed very quickly; but when you have a Cat 2 hurricane barreling at you chances are it's going to intensify. You start evacuating people in low lying areas; TX isn't exactly filled with mountains along the coast and Huston isn't all that far inland.

This is what you get when you mix MSM and LIV.  All the net new that I look at, said get the hell out of dodge.  Don't walk run!!!
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2017, 02:52:17 PM »
There is argument that there wasn't enough time to evacuate people and that the intensity of the storm was unknown.  Yeppers, hurricanes are unpredictable, but you mean to tell me that they were able to predict the amount of rainfall, the likely storm surge, that it was going to hit along the TX coast and possibly into Louisiana, yet didn't have a clue as to how big it was? Horse puckey!  Meteorologists and scientists have models that they play with showing different scenarios, from the least likely scenario to most likely and you take the worse cast scenario and you plan from there hoping for the best. Yes, Harvey developed very quickly; but when you have a Cat 2 hurricane barreling at you chances are it's going to intensify. You start evacuating people in low lying areas; TX isn't exactly filled with mountains along the coast and Huston isn't all that far inland.
The media is coming to Turner's defense not because hurricanes are unpredictable but because Turner made a bad decision. He just did not order an evacuation, he told people to stay put!!!!! Even with all the predictions of flooding, he told the citizens of Houston to stay put!!!!! Had he not said anything, there would have been a number of citizens who would have left or would not have been encouraged to stay. So why is the media covering for him? Because he is a liberal. Had a conservative made that choice the media would be blasting him as if his last name was Bush.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2017, 04:05:05 PM »
There is argument that there wasn't enough time to evacuate people and that the intensity of the storm was unknown.  Yeppers, hurricanes are unpredictable, but you mean to tell me that they were able to predict the amount of rainfall, the likely storm surge, that it was going to hit along the TX coast and possibly into Louisiana, yet didn't have a clue as to how big it was? Horse puckey!  Meteorologists and scientists have models that they play with showing different scenarios, from the least likely scenario to most likely and you take the worse cast scenario and you plan from there hoping for the best. Yes, Harvey developed very quickly; but when you have a Cat 2 hurricane barreling at you chances are it's going to intensify. You start evacuating people in low lying areas; TX isn't exactly filled with mountains along the coast and Huston isn't all that far inland.

I'm sorry, but if the news in Virginia said it was going to move very slow, skirt the cost and head east over several days, and dump 30-40 inches of rain AND that rivers would be backing up because of storm surge... on Wednesday and Thursday last week....   That's enough time to move to higher ground.  I wouldn't have cared what the stupid politicians think or said, they're not meteorologists, are they?

Before I'll call anyone stupid for not leaving - I'll call them willfully ignorant for listening to anyone but the meteorologists!    Now they got a mess, it could be worse ... somehow, I suppose.   When we heard the forecasts for Corpus Christi were 8-10 feet storm surge, and later the same day they upped it to 10-12' surge, with rivers backing up & rain on top of that ... DUH!   Leave the friggin' area for high ground inland.

I've seen first hand what happens at OBX North Carolina, several times.   Those people just "deal with it" and rebuild, year after year.  Kinda like Japan and earthquakes.   But .... I guess I'm trying hard to be sympathetic, 2-3 days warning, they SAW how Corpus Christi got slammed, er...  just kinda borders on well, "Why did you wait, when you knew what was coming?"   I do feel really pity those old folks who were in several feet of water, and totally dependent on someone to move them.   But those who *could* move, and didn't?   Meh... not so much, a little bit, but not so much....  putting your life and the life of your family at risk because you're afraid of looters - you decided to stay home?   Explain that one to God if you unexpectedly meet Him early.  A big screen TV is worth how much, compared to the life of my kids...?
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2017, 06:26:10 AM »
Turner the DEM mayor in this situation told people to stay put because he didn't want people dying in their vehicles trying to evacuate. He even reminded them of another hurricane that hit years ago to raise fear and doubt in them about leaving. He's absolutely despicable. He did absolutely nothing to evacuate 'his' people. He didn't put any effort into creating any kind of a massive evacuation plan.  Zero.  Nadda.  It was easier for him to let everyone else do the work after the hurricane hit.  He and his cronies sat and scoffed at Gov. Abbott when he suggested evacuation. Turner is a mindless bumbling liberal idiot who had is head up his rear! I wonder where he is through all this?  My hunch is he evacuated his sorry butt and his family to higher ground.

I reflect back to the picture of those in the nursing homes stuck in wheelchairs with the water rising.  Can you imagine the horror that they went through?  They sat in continuing rising water unable to ambulate and unable to care for themselves, not knowing if they were going to eventually going to drown. (If they could care for themselves, they wouldn't be in a nursing home).  That should have NEVER happened.  Yes, IMHO mayor Turner is 100% responsible for the deaths and injuries of the people of Huston for the simple fact he encouraged people to stay put and he did nothing to facilitate people evacuating.

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