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Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« on: April 10, 2017, 04:09:46 PM »
Not me, man!
I usually side with business, but United has some serious splainin to dooo!



A video posted on Facebook late Sunday evening shows a passenger on a United Airlines flight from Chicago to Louisville being forcibly removed from the plane before takeoff at O’Hare International Airport.

The video, posted by Audra D. Bridges at 7:30 p.m. Sunday, is taken from an aisle seat on a commercial airplane that appears to be preparing to take flight. The 31-second clip shows three men wearing radio equipment and security jackets speaking with a man seated on the plane. After a few seconds, one of the men grabs the passenger, who screams, and drags him by his arms toward the front of the plane. The video ends before anything else is shown.
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2017/04/10/video-shows-man-forcibly-removed-united-flight-chicago-louisville/100274374/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=
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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2017, 04:15:17 PM »
$800 just went 8 million.
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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2017, 04:32:53 PM »
$800 just went 8 million.
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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2017, 09:27:36 PM »
The airline has the right to remove passengers if it chooses. They had better be prepared for the possible backlash but this is a colossal f**k up and the guy should take them to the cleaners.


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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2017, 05:03:46 AM »
I am so glad I do not fly anymore. Planes are full now and airlines continue to overbook. Of course, this was not an overbook situation, but bouncing paying customers to re-position another crew. A real PR nightmare. United has been terrible for a long time and ruined a pretty good airline when they merged with Continental.
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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2017, 05:15:38 AM »
The airline has the right to remove passengers if it chooses. They had better be prepared for the possible backlash but this is a colossal f**k up and the guy should take them to the cleaners.
Yeah, it's one thing to 'accidentally' overbook, but to bump paying customers already seated and have employees take their seats is not only wrong but historically and arrogantly stupid.
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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2017, 05:37:03 AM »
I am so glad I do not fly anymore. Planes are full now and airlines continue to overbook. Of course, this was not an overbook situation, but bouncing paying customers to re-position another crew. A real PR nightmare. United has been terrible for a long time and ruined a pretty good airline when they merged with Continental.
I used to fly Continental but it seemed to be a dirty airline, planes always seemed kind of secondhand dirty, like the planes only got cleaned once a day, or week, even Hughes airlines was clean, though falling apart, they were still kept clean.
United just seems to have a serious disconnect between employee to CEO, where they seem to hire automatons, people that only follow the rule book and can't think for themselves.
Who in their right mind ever thought it was a good idea to bump paying seated passengers for employees?
It appears that the plane was full and ready for takeoff, someone screwed up and sent these employees to the airport without having made the reservations, their boss says "Get them here or you're fired"! So they do as they're told, because the chain of command doesn't allow a line to a higher employee to see that this problem is remedied.
Kind of like someone charged with chartering a small plane to see that the employees get to their destination without disrupting "paying customers".
If I were the CEO, there would be a house cleaning and a thorough rewriting of the rules governing the chain of command, where every employee is given a # to call in the event of a problem and a staff of people is afforded the power to override stupidity such as this.

I hate lawsuits that glean huge monetary awards, but if it's the only way they can learn is by hitting them in the wallet, then this guy deserves a paycheck.
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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2017, 10:08:44 AM »
$800 just went 8 million.
Worse than w thought...
The company’s stock value dropped as much as 6 percent in pre-market trading Tuesday, a fall that would have eliminated $1.4 billion from the company’s $22.5 billion market capitalization.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-shares-fall-after-passenger-dragged-off-plane/
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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2017, 10:23:32 AM »
Jimmy Kimmel United Commercial, jump to the 4:30 mark if you want to skip the intro.

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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2017, 11:06:09 AM »
Airlines have the right and responsibility to remove anyone, for any reason from a flight.

I'm sorry, but the MSM and Youtubers have run with this in the wrong direction.  It might cost United a little, but the same enforcement rules go for -ALL- airlines.   If they need to get a crew to another city, and the plane is already overbooked, someone is going to be bumped, and it's not going to be airline employees.   

It's a SAFETY issue - get over it.  What about the other people who graciously gave up their seats, who left without a fuss?   Are they suckers, or obeying the law (and compensated for it)?   the Captain has the final say, he can shut down the whole she-bang - everything rests on the Captain's shoulders - that is universal with all airlines.

Would everyone have felt better if 5 minutes after take-off, the plane returned to dump this moron?
What if the police test him for drugs and find out he's on some kind of Psychotropic?

The Captain is ultimately responsible for the safety of the crew and passengers on the plane - I'll trust the Captain.
BTW... Did anyone check and see of the plane reached it's appointed destination safely?   I guess the Captain made the right call, afterall.
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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2017, 11:46:29 AM »
Enough said..................... :popcorn:

United Airlines Stock Drops $1.4 Billion After Passenger-Removal Controversy

http://fortune.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-stock-drop/
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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2017, 12:46:38 PM »
While United is getting slammed for this I think we should wait and see what the passenger's background is. These type incidents require some patience for the potential "rest of the story".
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Re: Fly The Friendly Skies Of United?
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2017, 03:46:57 PM »
While United is getting slammed for this I think we should wait and see what the passenger's background is. These type incidents require some patience for the potential "rest of the story".

His background was, he bought a ticket in good faith and they beat him up when he wouldn't "volunteer" to accommodate a short-notice schedule-switch. I hope he owns them after this ends.

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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2017, 06:39:11 AM »
Calls for CEO's resignation.

David Dao, the 69-year old doctor from Kentucky who was dragged off a United Airlines flight against his will on Sunday night, has finally spoken out.

Talking to Louisville affiliate WLKY, Dao said he’s recovering from his injuries in a Chicago hospital and that “everything” hurts at the moment.

Added attorney Stephen Golan, whose name will likely surface often in the weeks ahead when Dao undoubtedly sues United for a kajillion dollars:

“The family of Dr. Dao wants the world to know that they are very appreciative of the outpouring of prayers, concern and support they have received.

"Currently, they are focused only on Dr. Dao’s medical care and treatment."

By now, of course, you are likely familiar with Dao’s story:

He was violently removed from an aircraft at O’Hare International Airport after he refused to volunteer to give up his seat on an overbooked flight.

United had offered up to $1,000 to any individual who was willing to take a later flight to Kentucky and then randomly selected a quartet of passengers after no volunteers emerged.

After Dao refused to leave the plane, employees contacted members of the Chicago Police Department, who dragged Dao away, opening up a wound on his lip at the very least.

“He was bleeding," said passenger Jayse Anspach, one of several witnesses who filmed the ugly incident. "He hit his face when they initially dragged him off."

Dr. David Dao
Shortly after footage of the physical, one-sided confrontation (below) went viral, United Airlines CEO Oscar Munoz made things worse.

He Tweeted a lame apology that referred to Dao's removal from the plane as an example of how the company must sometimes "re-accommodate" passengers.

"Our team is moving with the sense of urgency to work with the authorities and conduct our own detailed review of what happened," Munoz added at first.

"We are also reaching out to this passenger to talk directly to him and further address and resolve the situation."


United Airlines Passenger Gets Bloodied, Bruised, Forcibly Removed from Seat
This message was not received very well by the public.

Munoz also wrote an email to employees that went viral, actually complimenting how they handled the awkward situation.

In this email, Munoz describes Dao as acting “disruptive and belligerent” while telling his staff the following:

"I emphatically stand behind all of you, and I want to commend you for continuing to go above and beyond to ensure we fly right.

"As you will read, this situation was unfortunately compounded when one of the passengers we politely asked to deplane refused and it become necessary to contact Chicago Aviation Security Officers to help."



https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2017/04/united-airlines-victim-everything-hurts/
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Doctor was convicted of trading Drugs for SEX
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2017, 09:47:35 AM »
http://nypost.com/2017/04/11/doctor-dragged-off-flight-convicted-of-trading-drugs-for-sex/

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The passenger hauled off a United flight is a lung doctor with a taste for gambling, a history of angry outbursts — and a conviction for trading narcotics prescriptions and cash for gay sex in motels.
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Dao’s own medical license was suspended in 2003 following his arrest on charges including unlawful prescribing and trafficking in a controlled substance.

He was accused of providing prescriptions for Vicodin and other narcotics to a former patient he later hired as his office manger, who was identified in news reports at the time as Brian Case.

The men repeatedly hooked up in motels, with Dao paying Case around $200 each time and also sharing in the drugs, according to a 130-page file compiled by the Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure.

On the day he was busted, Dao was secretly videotaped with Case in a Red Carpet Inn in Jefferson County, Ky., “with his shirt off and his pants undone,” the records say.

Dao was convicted after a trial and sentenced to five years’ probation after the judge agreed to suspend a prison term of two-plus years recommended by the jury.


Follow the MSM narrative, and it usually leads you down the wrong rabbit trail.   This guy should have gone to prison.   The rest of it, resisting authorities, and creating a media stir at the expense of United Airlines - it would appear he is working this one rather well, hoping to retire with a nice nest-egg.

Should we expect passengers, Taxi's, Amtrak, Greyhound attempting a similar "public event" - all lawyered up, ready to cash in?
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