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Title: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: Sick Of Silence on May 05, 2018, 03:55:16 AM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-sue-albertsons-over-store-that-banned-hispanic-employees-from-speaking-spanish-even-on-breaks/ar-AAwLbq8?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=bdtdhp

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The Albertsons manager interrupted the conversation between Guadelupe Zamorano and Hermelinda Stevenson to chastise them for the rule they were publicly flouting, right in front of the grocery store.

They were speaking Spanish.

For months, according to an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission lawsuit filed on behalf of the two women and other minority employees, the San Diego store had an unwritten rule that applied exclusively to the Hispanics and Mexicans who worked there: They could not speak Spanish anywhere on the premises, even if they were on break.

I see nothing wrong with it. You are in America. If you are a citizen, you speak English. Everybody speaks English. That is our country's native language.

Liberals, haven't you learned? Now Albertson business will now increase because of this. Does Chic-Fil-A ring a bell to you?
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: walkstall on May 05, 2018, 04:10:11 AM
Hmm....  "even if they were on break"

I have a problem with this as break time is their time.

That's like telling me I can only pee at break time. 
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: Sick Of Silence on May 05, 2018, 04:17:56 AM
There is a bigger problem on all of them not wanting to learn English, speak English regularly, and teach their children English as well.

You can speak Spanish at home. This is business setting.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: walkstall on May 05, 2018, 04:44:02 AM
There is a bigger problem on all of them not wanting to learn English, speak English regularly, and teach their children English as well.

You can speak Spanish at home. This is business setting.


Break time is their time.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: supsalemgr on May 05, 2018, 05:04:07 AM

Break time is their time.

As I see it "unwritten" is the problem for Albertson's.

If it was a condition for employment in writing it would be a different matter.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: walkstall on May 05, 2018, 05:47:48 AM
As I see it "unwritten" is the problem for Albertson's.

If it was a condition for employment in writing it would be a different matter.

IF it was written the union would have a problem with it.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: Solar on May 05, 2018, 06:12:13 AM
As a former CEO/employer, I totally get it.
Different languages spoken within the ranks creates division, distrust. (Hey, you talking about me).
Seen full blown fights occur over it, where one group is speaking Spanish, all stop, look at someone and start laughing.
Even is it was totally innocent, it's flat out rude to speak so others are excluded.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: walkstall on May 05, 2018, 06:39:50 AM
As a former CEO/employer, I totally get it.
Different languages spoken within the ranks creates division, distrust. (Hey, you talking about me).
Seen full blown fights occur over it, where one group is speaking Spanish, all stop, look at someone and start laughing.
Even is it was totally innocent, it's flat out rude to speak so others are excluded.

When I go into town I now hear 5 to 8 languages spoken in stores in an 8hr day.  Until Congress get off it's ass and makes English the official language of U.S.A. it will not change.  You are going to have rude people speaking English also. 
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: Solar on May 05, 2018, 06:44:40 AM
When I go into town I now hear 5 to 8 languages spoken in stores in an 8hr day.  Until Congress get off it's ass and makes English the official language of U.S.A. it will not change.  You are going to have rude people speaking English also.
This is about employees, not just someone on the street.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: Solar on May 05, 2018, 08:33:15 AM
I just reread the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and nowhere does it cover language.
Sounds like more precedence setting via courts adjudicating laws never enacted by Congress.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: Sick Of Silence on May 05, 2018, 09:19:06 AM
They don't have to work there. Go work at another supermarket to not be an American. $8.9 million for few bosses telling their employees to speak English is another form of Liberal punishment (just like $130K for not making a gay cake).

On a side note, I have never seen a supermarket have dual bathrooms (separate employees and customers). So, there is no way to prove that the bathroom graffiti was initiated by English speaking employees.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: Sick Of Silence on May 05, 2018, 09:47:36 AM
IF it was written the union would have a problem with it.

Are you a Conservative? Show me where Unions have done the right thing? They are Organized Liberal Mafias.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: Sick Of Silence on May 05, 2018, 09:55:12 AM

Break time is their time.

You are right. I can watch porn in the break room. There is no code of conduct while at work.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: walkstall on May 05, 2018, 10:15:15 AM
Are you a Conservative? Show me where Unions have done the right thing? They are Organized Liberal Mafias.

I was a Conservative long before you were a gleam in your mothers eye.   :biggrin:

All I am saying it would have been a contract issue if it was a written policy.  As management I have had to deal with people and unions for over 40 years in my 65 working career.  The union would have jumped on it like stink on shit.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: Sick Of Silence on May 05, 2018, 10:33:25 AM
I was a Conservative long before you were a gleam in your mothers eye.   :biggrin:

All I am saying it would have been a contract issue if it was a written policy.  As management I have had to deal with people and unions for over 40 years in my 65 working career.  The union would have jumped on it like stink on shit.

Then you would know that these unions support Liberal causes, never support American values, and would never allow that in their contracts to begin with.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: zewazir on May 05, 2018, 12:25:44 PM

Break time is their time.
Not al breaks are unpaid.  Unpaid breaks are still company time.

Additionally, paid or not, while an employee is on company property, they are subject to company rules whether on the clock or not - especially if in the company uniform, which I know Albertsons employees wear. On the premises, in uniform, they represent the company to the public whether on the clock or not.

But to me, it comes down to basic courtesy - the item of human interaction progs seem to be completely devoid of, since humanism precepts are the entire universe revolves around each and every individual.  But basic courtesy implies to me that if I want to become part of any given society, I should learn the language of that society; as opposed to expecting the entire society to accommodate my laziness.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: s3779m on May 05, 2018, 02:52:37 PM
Not al breaks are unpaid.  Unpaid breaks are still company time.

Additionally, paid or not, while an employee is on company property, they are subject to company rules whether on the clock or not - especially if in the company uniform, which I know Albertsons employees wear. On the premises, in uniform, they represent the company to the public whether on the clock or not.

But to me, it comes down to basic courtesy - the item of human interaction progs seem to be completely devoid of, since humanism precepts are the entire universe revolves around each and every individual.  But basic courtesy implies to me that if I want to become part of any given society, I should learn the language of that society; as opposed to expecting the entire society to accommodate my laziness.
I agree with everything you just said, and may I add to that I hate to press 1 for English. BUT, in today's world, until our federal government sets the rules against it, employee's can and will speak any language they choose. I hope this changes by the time president Trump leaves office. They were talking to each other, which is allowed.
Title: Re: Feds sue Albertsons over store that banned Hispanic employees from speaking Span
Post by: walkstall on May 05, 2018, 03:01:44 PM
I agree with everything you just said, and may I add to that I hate to press 1 for English. BUT, in today's world, until our federal government sets the rules against it, employee's can and will speak any language they choose. I hope this changes by the time president Trump leaves office. They were talking to each other, which is allowed.


I do also.  I hope to live to see it in my life time.