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Title: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: supsalemgr on July 09, 2018, 04:38:02 AM
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2018/07/08/meet-press-panel-panics-thought-trump-meeting-putin

I saw this clip on FNC this morning and wanted to know more. Some broad I have never heard came unglued when Tapper asked if Trump was going to hand Crmea to Putin. Have I missed something. I thought Obama did this a few years ago?
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 09, 2018, 06:52:04 AM
Wow, the level of ignorance is embarrassing! And people wonder why I turned off the TV?
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Cadescove on July 09, 2018, 07:10:03 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 09, 2018, 04:38:02 AM
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2018/07/08/meet-press-panel-panics-thought-trump-meeting-putin

I saw this clip on FNC this morning and wanted to know more. Some broad I have never heard came unglued when Tapper asked if Trump was going to hand Crmea to Putin. Have I missed something. I thought Obama did this a few years ago?

Just curious, what should've Obama done?  What should Trump do?
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 09, 2018, 07:17:50 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 09, 2018, 07:10:03 AM
Just curious, what should've Obama done?  What should Trump do?
Did you miss the part where they're crying over Crimea falling to the Russians thanks to Trump?

Crimea was already TAKEN by Russia during the Obama Misadministration.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Cadescove on July 09, 2018, 07:28:55 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 09, 2018, 07:17:50 AM
Did you miss the part where they're crying over Crimea falling to the Russians thanks to Trump?

Crimea was already TAKEN by Russia during the Obama Misadministration.

Right, what should've Obama done to stop it or what other consequences should he have implemented?I

What should Trump do now?

Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 09, 2018, 08:02:40 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 09, 2018, 07:28:55 AM
Right, what should've Obama done to stop it or what other consequences should he have implemented?I

What should Trump do now?
What should Obozo have done? Stayed out of the geopolitical arena, not gutted the Pentagon of our greatest tactical minds, and that's just for starters.
You need to start at the beginning, the idiot never sat in on morning briefs, he was clueless about the rest of the world, nor did he care, he was only out to "Fundamentally Change America".
Those that surrounded Obozo are Marxist fundamentalists that only understand the world through the eyes of a Marxist, in other words, they're blind and led your dear leader of the proverbial cliff.

What should Trump do now? :lol:

Just keep watching, you're seeing history unfold before your very eyes. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: walkstall on July 09, 2018, 08:07:35 AM
b o was not even good with Red lines in the sand.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 09, 2018, 08:15:57 AM
Quote from: walkstall on July 09, 2018, 08:07:35 AM
b o was not even good with Red lines in the sand.
Trump and Obozo, the distinct difference in a born leader and a manufactured one.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: supsalemgr on July 09, 2018, 10:21:53 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 09, 2018, 07:28:55 AM
Right, what should've Obama done to stop it or what other consequences should he have implemented?I

What should Trump do now?

It is clear the purpose of my original post went over your head or you are trying to distract from the fact the leftists media showed their ignorance once again. Which one is it?
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Cadescove on July 09, 2018, 10:33:57 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 09, 2018, 10:21:53 AM
It is clear the purpose of my original post went over your head or you are trying to distract from the fact the leftists media showed their ignorance once again. Which one is it?

Never said the media wasn't ignorant especially in that clip.  It was a stupid exchange. You haven't even attempted to answer my questions, why is that?

BTW, who's Tapper?
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Possum on July 09, 2018, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 09, 2018, 07:28:55 AM
Right, what should've Obama done to stop it or what other consequences should he have implemented?I

What should Trump do now?
Why do you suppose the media is crying now over Crimea and not then when obama actually turned it over? I'm guessing the answer is related to why is the media crying now over illegal children being held separately and yet the same media never shed one tear when obama had thousands of illegal children held.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: supsalemgr on July 09, 2018, 12:28:39 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 09, 2018, 10:33:57 AM
Never said the media wasn't ignorant especially in that clip.  It was a stupid exchange. You haven't even attempted to answer my questions, why is that?

BTW, who's Tapper?

First, I interchange Todd and Tapper as both are leftist hacks.

Obama could have said NO to Russia acquiring Russia. They may have backed down, but we will never know will we?
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: walkstall on July 09, 2018, 03:24:04 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 09, 2018, 12:28:39 PM
First, I interchange Todd and Tapper as both are leftist hacks.

Obama could have said NO to Russia acquiring Russia. They may have backed down, but we will never know will we?


Russia knows that b o leads for behind.   Leading for behind is behaving as a servant, not a President.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Billy's bayonet on July 09, 2018, 06:33:36 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 09, 2018, 07:28:55 AM
Right, what should've Obama done to stop it or what other consequences should he have implemented?I

What should Trump do now?


Obamao should have told Putin if you keep messing with Crimea we'll flood Europe with cheap Natural gas, oil and coal and pull the rug out of your cash cow so fast that the next time you bully someone's country you'll have to use bows and arrows and spears. Oh and those missiles are going back in Poland.

But since Obamao was a complete wuss and was busy trying to stop the ocean's from rising and totally destroying American energy production there was as much chance of that as Moochelle winning a Miss America Pageant.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: T Hunt on July 09, 2018, 08:52:51 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 09, 2018, 06:33:36 PM

Obamao should have told Putin if you keep messing with Crimea we'll flood Europe with cheap Natural gas, oil and coal and pull the rug out of your cash cow so fast that the next time you bully someone's country you'll have to use bows and arrows and spears. Oh and those missiles are going back in Poland.

But since Obamao was a complete wuss and was busy trying to stop the ocean's from rising and totally destroying American energy production there was as much chance of that as Moochelle winning a Miss America Pageant.

She would have a no problem winning the Miss Monkey Pageant  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 09:01:25 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 09, 2018, 06:33:36 PM

Obamao should have told Putin if you keep messing with Crimea we'll flood Europe with cheap Natural gas, oil and coal and pull the rug out of your cash cow so fast that the next time you bully someone's country you'll have to use bows and arrows and spears. Oh and those missiles are going back in Poland.

But since Obamao was a complete wuss and was busy trying to stop the ocean's from rising and totally destroying American energy production there was as much chance of that as Moochelle winning a Miss America Pageant.

At last a tangible idea. Too bad there was not the infrastructure necessary to export LNG here at that time as well as the infrastructure in place in western Europe to import at that time. We would have to pay them to take coal and they still might not want it and we aren't a big enough exporter of petroleum to make a lick of difference. 
Poland was not interested in hosting nukes either at that time.

Next.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 10, 2018, 10:07:15 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 09:01:25 AM
At last a tangible idea. Too bad there was not the infrastructure necessary to export LNG here at that time as well as the infrastructure in place in western Europe to import at that time. We would have to pay them to take coal and they still might not want it and we aren't a big enough exporter of petroleum to make a lick of difference. 
Poland was not interested in hosting nukes either at that time.

Next.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
Obozo hated the fact that the private sector was kicking his ass in his attempt to stifle his death grip on drilling.
He was Hell bent on pushing his "Green Energy" bull shit, that he was using every avenue available to kill off the oil industry.
He failed miserably.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_move_expc_s1_a.htm
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 10:20:26 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 10, 2018, 10:07:15 AM
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
Obozo hated the fact that the private sector was kicking his ass in his attempt to stifle his death grip on drilling.
He was Hell bent on pushing his "Green Energy" bull shit, that he was using every avenue available to kill off the oil industry.
He failed miserably.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_move_expc_s1_a.htm
How does this relates to Billy' post which is what I was responding to?

Edit:  it proves we didn't have the capacity to tanker ship LNG, most exports are Canada and Mexico by pipeline. Thx.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 10, 2018, 10:25:01 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 10:20:26 AM
How does this relates to Billy' post which is what I was responding to?
You claimed there was no infrastructure available to export LNG. My post proved that to be a lie.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 10:58:26 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 10, 2018, 10:25:01 AM
You claimed there was no infrastructure available to export LNG. My post proved that to be a lie.

To Europe,the market Billy wanted to flood.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: T Hunt on July 10, 2018, 11:34:23 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 09:01:25 AM
At last a tangible idea. Too bad there was not the infrastructure necessary to export LNG here at that time as well as the infrastructure in place in western Europe to import at that time. We would have to pay them to take coal and they still might not want it and we aren't a big enough exporter of petroleum to make a lick of difference. 
Poland was not interested in hosting nukes either at that time.

Next.

Any links to back up that claim?
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 10, 2018, 11:42:23 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 10:58:26 AM
To Europe,the market Billy wanted to flood.
Again, completely irrelevant! You act as if we only export by pipeline.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 11:48:25 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 10, 2018, 11:34:23 AM
Any links to back up that claim?

QuoteThere were no LNG export terminals in the U.S. prior to 2016. In fact, America's first LNG export terminal, Cheniere Energy's Sabine Pass facility in Louisiana, was originally built as an LNG import terminal in 2008 when experts thought the U.S. was facing a severe national gas shortage. Fracking changed all that, with the price of natural gas at the Henry Hub declining 70 percent in inflation adjusted terms from 2008 to 2017.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2018/05/14/u-s-liquefied-natural-gas-exports-just-quadrupled-its-good-for-the-economy-national-security/#41a43ad727b5 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2018/05/14/u-s-liquefied-natural-gas-exports-just-quadrupled-its-good-for-the-economy-national-security/#41a43ad727b5)


Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 11:50:26 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 10, 2018, 11:42:23 AM
Again, completely irrelevant! You act as if we only export by pipeline.

Until recently we primarily did as your link showed.

Gotta go, see you guys tomorrow 😜

Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 10, 2018, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 11:50:26 AM
Until recently we primarily did as your link showed.

Gotta go, see you guys tomorrow 😜
We've always sold NG by tanker to Europe, it wasn't until Putin cut Europe off did they start buying exclusively from us.
Once this happened, Putin realized he didn't have a leg to stand on.

The only thing standing in our way of global domination of the oil market is infrastructure, and Obozo did all he could to stifle its growth.
Think Canadian pipeline. Soros owned the rail contract to move oil sands and Obozo was in Soros court to kill said pipeline.
Yes, and the gop'E helped the Marxist too, so he wasn't alone in this, the gop'E is behind all of this BS.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: supsalemgr on July 10, 2018, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 10, 2018, 11:34:23 AM
Any links to back up that claim?

Note in his post he used the term "at that time" twice. Which means it no longer applies and reinforces his troll status.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 12:36:49 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 10, 2018, 12:24:15 PM
Note in his post he used the term "at that time" twice. Which means it no longer applies and reinforces his troll status.

That's because we were talking about 2014-2016.

You are either seriously dense and/or really bad at baiting.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: walkstall on July 10, 2018, 01:00:39 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 12:36:49 PM
That's because we were talking about 2014-2016.

You are either seriously dense and/or really bad at baiting.


I think you will find most Conservative poster know when a troll is posting.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: supsalemgr on July 10, 2018, 01:01:47 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 12:36:49 PM
That's because we were talking about 2014-2016.

You are either seriously dense and/or really bad at baiting.

I don't think Trump was president then.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 10, 2018, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 10, 2018, 01:01:47 PM
I don't think Trump was president then.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 10, 2018, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 12:36:49 PM

You are either seriously dense and/or really bad at baiting.
I just wanted to let you know, be yourself, we don't ban libs, just because they're libs, no, we ban trolls and I don't think of you as a troll.
I just wanted you to feel at home, and yes, we do appreciate actual challenges in thought, otherwise, we're just another echo chamber.

I post in all sorts of forums around the web and get booted the most for posting facts, most of those sites hate facts because it exposes their narrative, and I assure you, we're not like that.

So don't feel you have to be guarded in your posts, just be yourself, you're safe here.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: taxed on July 10, 2018, 01:45:46 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 10, 2018, 01:01:47 PM
I don't think Trump was president then.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Billy's bayonet on July 10, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 09:01:25 AM
At last a tangible idea. Too bad there was not the infrastructure necessary to export LNG here at that time as well as the infrastructure in place in western Europe to import at that time. We would have to pay them to take coal and they still might not want it and we aren't a big enough exporter of petroleum to make a lick of difference. 
Poland was not interested in hosting nukes either at that time.

Next.


We've been exporting coal to CHina for the past five years at a record rate, if we have the "infastructure"....we call them railroads where I live... to get coal from Tennessee, West Va and Southwest Virginia to CHina we damn sure can get it to Europe and we can get LNG to Europe even easier.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 09:14:44 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 10, 2018, 08:04:30 PM

We've been exporting coal to CHina for the past five years at a record rate, if we have the "infastructure"....we call them railroads where I live... to get coal from Tennessee, West Va and Southwest Virginia to CHina we damn sure can get it to Europe and we can get LNG to Europe even easier.

Now you're just boring me.
QuoteChina's Coal Imports
U.S. shipments counted for just a sliver of China's total 2017 imports of the fuel


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-29/china-is-said-to-consider-more-u-s-coal-imports-to-cut-deficit-jhrf6jaz (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-29/china-is-said-to-consider-more-u-s-coal-imports-to-cut-deficit-jhrf6jaz)
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Billy's bayonet on July 11, 2018, 06:53:55 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 10, 2018, 09:14:44 PM
Now you're just boring me.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-29/china-is-said-to-consider-more-u-s-coal-imports-to-cut-deficit-jhrf6jaz (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-29/china-is-said-to-consider-more-u-s-coal-imports-to-cut-deficit-jhrf6jaz)


Translation:  I had my ass kicked in this debate but I'll claim some sort of vicarious victory by declaring I'm bored and slink away.  Got  it.

And in case you missed it, Trump just bitch slapped Germany mentioning how Russia owns them because of the gas/oil deals.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-summit-pipeline/trump-lashes-germany-over-gas-pipeline-deal-calls-it-russias-captive-idUSKBN1K10VI

Don't think for one minute Trump wouldn't jerk the Rug out from under Putin.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 11, 2018, 06:58:25 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 11, 2018, 06:53:55 AM

Translation:  I had my ass kicked in this debate but I'll claim some sort of vicarious victory by declaring I'm bored and slink away.  Got  it.

And in case you missed it, Trump just bitch slapped Germany mentioning how Russia owns them because of the gas/oil deals.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-summit-pipeline/trump-lashes-germany-over-gas-pipeline-deal-calls-it-russias-captive-idUSKBN1K10VI

Don't think for one minute Trump wouldn't jerk the Rug out from under Putin.
You'll love this!! :thumbup:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1016956445307400193
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: NotRight on July 26, 2018, 12:33:48 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 10, 2018, 01:42:31 PM
and get booted the most for posting facts

That's quite funny.  I've read more of your posts than you are worth and 'posting facts' isn't something i would attribute to you.  That's not trolling either, it's provable, but guys like you can't even agree on what the basic facts are.  You are so saturated with right wing propaganda you can't even find an honest foothold to examine your own beliefs.  But i know, you don't NEED to 'examine you own beliefs' that's just a weak liberal thing.  You think you are an independent thinker but you are an exact copy of thousands of other right wingers, you just repeat what you are fed by the radical right wing propaganda machine.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: taxed on July 26, 2018, 12:43:52 PM
Quote from: NotRight on July 26, 2018, 12:33:48 PM
That's quite funny.  I've read more of your posts than you are worth and 'posting facts' isn't something i would attribute to you.  That's not trolling either, it's provable, but guys like you can't even agree on what the basic facts are.  You are so saturated with right wing propaganda you can't even find an honest foothold to examine your own beliefs.  But i know, you don't NEED to 'examine you own beliefs' that's just a weak liberal thing.  You think you are an independent thinker but you are an exact copy of thousands of other right wingers, you just repeat what you are fed by the radical right wing propaganda machine.

Can you specify one of these "beliefs"?
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 26, 2018, 12:46:42 PM
Quote from: NotRight on July 26, 2018, 12:33:48 PM
That's quite funny.  I've read more of your posts than you are worth and 'posting facts' isn't something i would attribute to you.  That's not trolling either, it's provable, but guys like you can't even agree on what the basic facts are.  You are so saturated with right wing propaganda you can't even find an honest foothold to examine your own beliefs.  But i know, you don't NEED to 'examine you own beliefs' that's just a weak liberal thing.  You think you are an independent thinker but you are an exact copy of thousands of other right wingers, you just repeat what you are fed by the radical right wing propaganda machine.
So that's it, that's what passes for lib rebuttal? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Possum on July 26, 2018, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: NotRight on July 26, 2018, 12:33:48 PM
That's quite funny.  I've read more of your posts than you are worth and 'posting facts' isn't something i would attribute to you.  That's not trolling either, it's provable, but guys like you can't even agree on what the basic facts are.  You are so saturated with right wing propaganda you can't even find an honest foothold to examine your own beliefs.  But i know, you don't NEED to 'examine you own beliefs' that's just a weak liberal thing.  You think you are an independent thinker but you are an exact copy of thousands of other right wingers, you just repeat what you are fed by the radical right wing propaganda machine.
pelosi could not have stammered it any better. Bet the libs are proud of you.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: taxed on July 26, 2018, 12:59:06 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2018, 12:46:42 PM
So that's it, that's what passes for lib rebuttal? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I don't think they get a lot of news in his country.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 26, 2018, 01:04:24 PM
Quote from: taxed on July 26, 2018, 12:59:06 PM
I don't think they get a lot of news in his country.
Country? I was thinking "Ward". :biggrin:
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: taxed on July 26, 2018, 01:05:22 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2018, 01:04:24 PM
Country? I was thinking "Ward". :biggrin:

He gets an extra 15 minutes if he swallows his medication without a fight.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 26, 2018, 01:06:47 PM
Quote from: taxed on July 26, 2018, 01:05:22 PM
He gets an extra 15 minutes if he swallows his medication without a fight.
No doubt he swallows. :lol:
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: T Hunt on July 26, 2018, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: NotRight on July 26, 2018, 12:33:48 PM
That's quite funny.  I've read more of your posts than you are worth and 'posting facts' isn't something i would attribute to you.  That's not trolling either, it's provable, but guys like you can't even agree on what the basic facts are.  You are so saturated with right wing propaganda you can't even find an honest foothold to examine your own beliefs.  But i know, you don't NEED to 'examine you own beliefs' that's just a weak liberal thing.  You think you are an independent thinker but you are an exact copy of thousands of other right wingers, you just repeat what you are fed by the radical right wing propaganda machine.

Only one side engages in massive mind control propaganda, and they admit it in their bible, Rules for Radicals. The only reason conservatives are saying the same thing is because they all arrived at similar conclusions using honest intelect. Its called Common Sense and the left sacrificed theirs to the gods of emotion along time ago.
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Solar on July 26, 2018, 04:47:34 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 26, 2018, 03:17:30 PM
Only one side engages in massive mind control propaganda, and they admit it in their bible, Rules for Radicals. The only reason conservatives are saying the same thing is because they all arrived at similar conclusions using honest intelect. Its called Common Sense and the left sacrificed theirs to the gods of emotion along time ago.
Nailed it! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Fake News Strikes Again
Post by: Possum on July 27, 2018, 12:11:24 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2018, 01:04:24 PM
Country? I was thinking "Ward". :biggrin:
basement