Do Black lives really matter?

[taxed]

What's being left out of this discussion is how the leftist government is ACTIVELY ATTACKING Blacks by:

1 - Exporting jobs, which is taking more jobs from Blacks (proportionally) than Whites
and
2 - Illegal immigration, which is taking more jobs from Blacks (proportionally) than Whites.

Both are promoted by leftist government:

1 - Our current tax system heavily punishes American jobs, but lets imports in tax free.
(Fair Tax would eliminate this INVERSE TARIFF.)
and
2 - Leftist Dems plan to have all the uneducated, illegal aliens illegally registered to vote NEXT YEAR!
Leftist Rs want illegal aliens to continue driving wages down.

I'm a huge Fairtax supporter!

[kroz]

I'm a huge Fairtax supporter!

Why is a Fair tax better than a Flat tax?  "Fair" is arbitrary.  "Flat" is not.

[red_dirt]

No room in this discussion, of course, for moral restrain and impulse control. That's all out the window as moral relativism and cultural diversity are ushered in. The fools have been led to believe communism will save them.

[Solar]

Why is a Fair tax better than a Flat tax?  "Fair" is arbitrary.  "Flat" is not.

Nothing really changes under a flat tax, under a Fair tax, the govt gets put on a choker leash.

https://fairtax.org/research-library/taxes-and-tax-reform

[kroz]

Nothing really changes under a flat tax, under a Fair tax, the govt gets put on a choker leash.

https://fairtax.org/research-library/taxes-and-tax-reform

That makes it totally relevant to who is in power!  It would be inconsistent.

A flat tax is totally consistent..... and reliable.

I realize there are pros and cons on both sides of this debate. 

[Solar]

That makes it totally relevant to who is in power!  It would be inconsistent.

A flat tax is totally consistent..... and reliable.

I realize there are pros and cons on both sides of this debate.

Nope. A flat tax is still based on income, where you pay a flat fed to the Fed, while a Fairtax is collected by the State, based on your purchases. Food is not taxed under Fairtax, neither is the purchase of used items
Poor people would benefit the ,ost under a Fairtax, while the rich, buying luxury items get nailed.

Under a Flattax system, your income is taxed, regardless. That in reality is unconstitutional.

[kroz]

Nope. A flat tax is still based on income, where you pay a flat fed to the Fed, while a Fairtax is collected by the State, based on your purchases. Food is not taxed under Fairtax, neither is the purchase of used items
Poor people would benefit the ,ost under a Fairtax, while the rich, buying luxury items get nailed.

Under a Flattax system, your income is taxed, regardless. That in reality is unconstitutional.

Ah-so, it is a consumption tax!  VAT

That definitely has its pros and cons. 

Are there exemptions..... such as groceries?

[cubedemon]

Ah-so, it is a consumption tax!  VAT

That definitely has its pros and cons. 

Are there exemptions..... such as groceries?

Ya beat me to the punch.  I was going to say that.  Solar did say that food items were exempted.   

[cubedemon]

Getting back to the topic, shouldn't all lives matter?

[je_freedom]

A flat tax is still an income tax.  No real change.  It's still an inverse tariff.  It still leaves the IRS in power.

Fair Tax is a consumption tax, not an income tax.  It's paid on what you buy, not what you produce.  It would ABOLISH the IRS!  It would make the IRS  NOT EXIST!

VAT (Value Added Tax) is still an income tax, only MORE intrusive!  It would be a step FURTHER in the wrong direction!

ANY income tax is immoral!  As Alan Keyes said,
"To say that the government is entitled to ANY percent of your income is
to say that the government is entitled to the FIRST percent of your income!"

[Solar]

Ah-so, it is a consumption tax!  VAT

That definitely has its pros and cons. 

Are there exemptions..... such as groceries?

The problem with a Flattax is the IRS still exists as it stands, with a Fairtax, the State takes the receipts, bypassing the IRS and sends them off to Washington, leaving them with no recourse over the citizen, such as an audit.

[kroz]

The problem with a Flattax is the IRS still exists as it stands, with a Fairtax, the State takes the receipts, bypassing the IRS and sends them off to Washington, leaving them with no recourse over the citizen, such as an audit.

Excellent point!!!   

[carlb]

A flat tax is still an income tax.  No real change.  It's still an inverse tariff.  It still leaves the IRS in power.

Fair Tax is a consumption tax, not an income tax.  It's paid on what you buy, not what you produce.  It would ABOLISH the IRS!  It would make the IRS  NOT EXIST!

VAT (Value Added Tax) is still an income tax, only MORE intrusive!  It would be a step FURTHER in the wrong direction!

ANY income tax is immoral!  As Alan Keyes said,
"To say that the government is entitled to ANY percent of your income is
to say that the government is entitled to the FIRST percent of your income!"

You're right, income is NOT profit. You traded your time (your life) for pay.

The income tax was a creation of the early 20th century Progressives. The Founders never envisioned this.

[Dori]

The income tax was a creation of the early 20th century Progressives. The Founders never envisioned this.

Out of curiosity, how was government paid for prior to the income tax?

[Cryptic Bert]

Not to most Liberals.