"Entitled" demands special treatment while "Hero" passenger assaults Attendant

Started by Rotwang, April 23, 2017, 10:39:08 AM

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http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/american-airlines-suspends-employee-who-grabbed-stroller-w478298

An Argentine woman demands Special Treatment; that she be allowed to bring an Baby Stroller onto a Flight from San Francisco Oakland to Dallas Forth Worth.

When the Flight Attendant explains there is no room, and offers to remove it to Baggage, the awkward device accidentally contacts the woman, who breaks down in tears that her demands are not being met.

As the Flight Attendant and other Airline Personnel attempt to calm the woman, a large and belligerent male passenger decides he'd like to be involved, and threatens the older, smaller, and far less physically fit Flight Attendant with a beating.




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Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2017, 10:49:06 AM
The flight attendant was suspended, case closed. Next!

Suspending the Flight Attendant was nothing but damage control for the Airlines.

Flight Attendants, Cops, Teachers are always GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.

I'd be shocked if the Flight Attendant did this out of the blue, if he were not simply doing what his managers insist he do.

And I believe the "Hero's" actions amount to technical Criminal Assault.

Rotwang

Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2017, 10:49:06 AM
The flight attendant was suspended, case closed. Next!

To place "Blame" where it belongs, place it on the obvious lack of communication between the Flight Attendants and the Gate Attendants, who never should have allowed the woman on with a Stroller in the First Place.

The MAINSTREAM MEDIA tells us the Flight Attendant deliberately HIT the woman with her stroller. That that sound even remotely likely ?

Then the MAINSTREAM MEDIA tells us the Flight Attendant Picked a Fight with a random passenger. Clearly not the case.

Evil, Cruel, Flight Attendant: Just More FAKE NEWS.

Solar

Quote from: Rotwang on April 23, 2017, 10:55:45 AM
Suspending the Flight Attendant was nothing but damage control for the Airlines.

Flight Attendants, Cops, Teachers are always GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.

I'd be shocked if the Flight Attendant did this out of the blue, if he were not simply doing what his managers insist he do.
Maybe it wasn't out of the blue, maybe he has a history of anger issues?

QuoteAnd I believe the "Hero's" actions amount to technical Criminal Assault.
Did you see him strike her? Show me the evidence of an actual assault.
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Quote from: Rotwang on April 23, 2017, 11:03:16 AM
To place "Blame" where it belongs, place it on the obvious lack of communication between the Flight Attendants and the Gate Attendants, who never should have allowed the woman on with a Stroller in the First Place.

The MAINSTREAM MEDIA tells us the Flight Attendant deliberately HIT the woman with her stroller. That that sound even remotely likely ?

Then the MAINSTREAM MEDIA tells us the Flight Attendant Picked a Fight with a random passenger. Clearly not the case.

Evil, Cruel, Flight Attendant: Just More FAKE NEWS.
It's very possible they told her and she ignored them, or based on her uncontrollable crying, she never heard a word they said.
Post pardon depression.
I see an asshole flight attendant, an emotional twit laden with carry on crap and a baby, a passenger's worst nightmare to sit next to.

Sorry, I don't see any victim here, including the flight attendant who deserved to be suspended.
Yeah, pretty much amounts to "Fake News".
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this story was followed by a Xanax commercial.
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Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
It's very possible they told her and she ignored them, or based on her uncontrollable crying, she never heard a word they said.
Post pardon depression.
I see an asshole flight attendant, an emotional twit laden with carry on crap and a baby, a passenger's worst nightmare to sit next to.

Sorry, I don't see any victim here, including the flight attendant who deserved to be suspended.
Yeah, pretty much amounts to "Fake News".
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this story was followed by a Xanax commercial.

No actual victim - AGREED.

Much ado about nothing. As is so much "news" these days.

But the "HERO" remains a genuine A-HOLE, in my opinion.

His intervention was unnecessary, and although the Flight Attendant lost his cool, I can understand that.

"This isn't your battle, Hulk Hogan. SIT DOWN and SHUT UP."

Rotwang

Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2017, 12:12:58 PM
Maybe it wasn't out of the blue, maybe he has a history of anger issues?
Did you see him strike her? Show me the evidence of an actual assault.

As usual we only know half the story - if that much.

Even if the MEDIA knows more, it will not be revealed if it damages their FAKE NEWS.

Rotwang

Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2017, 10:49:06 AM
The flight attendant was suspended, case closed. Next!

Let's all be grateful the Woman was WHITE, and not anything else.

Especially NOT A MUSLIM.

Or my head would explode.

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I was just reviewing my FB page and this post came up. As a disclaimer I know it is supposedly one person's supposed observation. However, some of the details jive and my flying experiences align with the post. That being said, the FA could have handled it better still.

Here is the post:

"I was on this flight directly across the isle from the woman filming the video. This is what I observed: 1.) woman gets on the plane pushing a car seat type stroller with one child in it, carrying a second child on her hip and dragging behind a very large folded stroller that was too big for the overhead bin or to go under a seat. 2.) the flight attendant shown in the video approached from the back of the plane and informed her in a calm manner that there was nowhere to store the stroller. The woman immediately escalated the situation and within about 30 seconds was screaming at him at the top of her lungs. 3.) the flight attendant evidently decided she was not fit to be on the flight (in my opinion the correct decision) and started to move her and her children towards the front of the plane. 4.) when they got to the from of the plane the woman decided she was not going any further. The flight attendant picked up the stroller and lifted it over his head to try and move past the woman. As he was doing this she pushed him and the stroller fell a bit and struck her in the face. She began crying loudly and dramatically. Shortly after this is where the video begins. 5.) The first class passenger then inserts himself into the drama with his faux chivalry but clearly has no idea what has transpired in the back of the plane since he was in a window seat in the first class section of the plane and could not have viewed the incident from his seat. 6.) after another 10 minutes or so the woman exits the plane only to be returned about 5 minutes later and taken to her seat. We wait another 30-40 minutes while various flight and ground crew come and go speaking to the woman. After about 40 minutes she deplanes again this time telling all of the passengers, who are now becoming vocal in support of the flight crew, that all she wanted was an apology from the flight attendant. Evidently that's what the 40 minute delay was all about. Then we waited another 10 minutes for the ground crew to find and remove her luggage from the belly of the plane. 7.) the flight finally leaves and arrives in Dallas an hour or so late. American representatives are waiting at the gate to speak with the first class passenger who made the threats. What I heard was a very apologetic tone coming from two American employees, as if the airline had done something to upset the first class passenger. 8.) when I entered the bag claim area the first class passenger was right in front of me and as soon as he made it through the revolving door there was a camera crew waiting for him on the other side to interview him. That's about as factual of an account as I can provide and I realize there may be other parts of this story that I do not know about or did not witness. From what I saw: a.) if anyone from American should have been punished it should be the ground crew who somehow letting this woman on board with a full size stroller. The flight attendant was put in a horrible situation by a passenger that most passengers in my immediate area thought seemed unstable. She escalated the situation, not him. b.) in my opinion, the first class passenger should have been removed. Had the flight been in progress he might very well have been arrested upon landing for threatening a crew member. Additionally, he could not have seen any of the back of the plane antics of the woman based on where he was seated. c.) I agree the flight attendant may have reacted too harshly in responding to the threatening customer in first class, but his actions with the woman in question were professional throughout the ordeal. I am disappointed American has chosen to punish him."
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Quote from: supsalemgr on April 23, 2017, 01:13:58 PM
I was just reviewing my FB page and this post came up. As a disclaimer I know it is supposedly one person's supposed observation. However, some of the details jive and my flying experiences align with the post. That being said, the FA could have handled it better still.

Here is the post:

"I was on this flight directly across the isle from the woman filming the video. This is what I observed: 1.) woman gets on the plane pushing a car seat type stroller with one child in it, carrying a second child on her hip and dragging behind a very large folded stroller that was too big for the overhead bin or to go under a seat. 2.) the flight attendant shown in the video approached from the back of the plane and informed her in a calm manner that there was nowhere to store the stroller. The woman immediately escalated the situation and within about 30 seconds was screaming at him at the top of her lungs. 3.) the flight attendant evidently decided she was not fit to be on the flight (in my opinion the correct decision) and started to move her and her children towards the front of the plane. 4.) when they got to the from of the plane the woman decided she was not going any further. The flight attendant picked up the stroller and lifted it over his head to try and move past the woman. As he was doing this she pushed him and the stroller fell a bit and struck her in the face. She began crying loudly and dramatically. Shortly after this is where the video begins. 5.) The first class passenger then inserts himself into the drama with his faux chivalry but clearly has no idea what has transpired in the back of the plane since he was in a window seat in the first class section of the plane and could not have viewed the incident from his seat. 6.) after another 10 minutes or so the woman exits the plane only to be returned about 5 minutes later and taken to her seat. We wait another 30-40 minutes while various flight and ground crew come and go speaking to the woman. After about 40 minutes she deplanes again this time telling all of the passengers, who are now becoming vocal in support of the flight crew, that all she wanted was an apology from the flight attendant. Evidently that's what the 40 minute delay was all about. Then we waited another 10 minutes for the ground crew to find and remove her luggage from the belly of the plane. 7.) the flight finally leaves and arrives in Dallas an hour or so late. American representatives are waiting at the gate to speak with the first class passenger who made the threats. What I heard was a very apologetic tone coming from two American employees, as if the airline had done something to upset the first class passenger. 8.) when I entered the bag claim area the first class passenger was right in front of me and as soon as he made it through the revolving door there was a camera crew waiting for him on the other side to interview him. That's about as factual of an account as I can provide and I realize there may be other parts of this story that I do not know about or did not witness. From what I saw: a.) if anyone from American should have been punished it should be the ground crew who somehow letting this woman on board with a full size stroller. The flight attendant was put in a horrible situation by a passenger that most passengers in my immediate area thought seemed unstable. She escalated the situation, not him. b.) in my opinion, the first class passenger should have been removed. Had the flight been in progress he might very well have been arrested upon landing for threatening a crew member. Additionally, he could not have seen any of the back of the plane antics of the woman based on where he was seated. c.) I agree the flight attendant may have reacted too harshly in responding to the threatening customer in first class, but his actions with the woman in question were professional throughout the ordeal. I am disappointed American has chosen to punish him."



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Quote from: supsalemgr on April 23, 2017, 01:13:58 PM
I was just reviewing my FB page and this post came up. As a disclaimer I know it is supposedly one person's supposed observation. However, some of the details jive and my flying experiences align with the post. That being said, the FA could have handled it better still.

Here is the post:

"I was on this flight directly across the isle from the woman filming the video. This is what I observed: 1.) woman gets on the plane pushing a car seat type stroller with one child in it, carrying a second child on her hip and dragging behind a very large folded stroller that was too big for the overhead bin or to go under a seat. 2.) the flight attendant shown in the video approached from the back of the plane and informed her in a calm manner that there was nowhere to store the stroller. The woman immediately escalated the situation and within about 30 seconds was screaming at him at the top of her lungs. 3.) the flight attendant evidently decided she was not fit to be on the flight (in my opinion the correct decision) and started to move her and her children towards the front of the plane. 4.) when they got to the from of the plane the woman decided she was not going any further. The flight attendant picked up the stroller and lifted it over his head to try and move past the woman. As he was doing this she pushed him and the stroller fell a bit and struck her in the face. She began crying loudly and dramatically. Shortly after this is where the video begins. 5.) The first class passenger then inserts himself into the drama with his faux chivalry but clearly has no idea what has transpired in the back of the plane since he was in a window seat in the first class section of the plane and could not have viewed the incident from his seat. 6.) after another 10 minutes or so the woman exits the plane only to be returned about 5 minutes later and taken to her seat. We wait another 30-40 minutes while various flight and ground crew come and go speaking to the woman. After about 40 minutes she deplanes again this time telling all of the passengers, who are now becoming vocal in support of the flight crew, that all she wanted was an apology from the flight attendant. Evidently that's what the 40 minute delay was all about. Then we waited another 10 minutes for the ground crew to find and remove her luggage from the belly of the plane. 7.) the flight finally leaves and arrives in Dallas an hour or so late. American representatives are waiting at the gate to speak with the first class passenger who made the threats. What I heard was a very apologetic tone coming from two American employees, as if the airline had done something to upset the first class passenger. 8.) when I entered the bag claim area the first class passenger was right in front of me and as soon as he made it through the revolving door there was a camera crew waiting for him on the other side to interview him. That's about as factual of an account as I can provide and I realize there may be other parts of this story that I do not know about or did not witness. From what I saw: a.) if anyone from American should have been punished it should be the ground crew who somehow letting this woman on board with a full size stroller. The flight attendant was put in a horrible situation by a passenger that most passengers in my immediate area thought seemed unstable. She escalated the situation, not him. b.) in my opinion, the first class passenger should have been removed. Had the flight been in progress he might very well have been arrested upon landing for threatening a crew member. Additionally, he could not have seen any of the back of the plane antics of the woman based on where he was seated. c.) I agree the flight attendant may have reacted too harshly in responding to the threatening customer in first class, but his actions with the woman in question were professional throughout the ordeal. I am disappointed American has chosen to punish him."
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Like I said, every passengers nightmare, having to sit next to an emotionally unstable woman with kids.
Ticking timebomb!
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Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2017, 02:27:23 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Like I said, every passengers nightmare, having to sit next to an emotionally unstable woman with kids.
Ticking timebomb!

Might be a total fabrication.

But it rings true to me.