Why are passionate atheists such raging a-holes?

[Late-For-Lunch]

It has been my own personal observation that most passionately atheistic or agnostic people I have known or tried to communicate with about the topic of spirituality ( almost universally leftists) rapidly degenerate in vituperation, crude insults and psychotic rage.

I just wonder if it's just me, or if others have had this experience.

No strongly religious person I have ever known was blatantly, aggressively discourteous to atheists either on forums or in person. Why would an atheist ( which is someone who believes that God does not exist) or an agnostic ( someone who believes that the existence of God cannot be proven) find it necessary or good to be such a-holes about it? 

Where does all of that psychotic rage come from???

I have my own ideas but I'd like to know what other people think before I offer an opinion.

[walkstall]

It has been my own personal observation that most passionately atheistic or agnostic people I have known or tried to communicate with about the topic of spirituality ( almost universally leftists) rapidly degenerate in vituperation, crude insults and psychotic rage.

I just wonder if it's just me, or if others have had this experience.

No strongly religious person I have ever known was blatantly, aggressively discourteous to atheists either on forums or in person. Why would an atheist ( which is someone who believes that God does not exist) or an agnostic ( someone who believes that the existence of God cannot be proven) find it necessary or good to be such a-holes about it? 

Where does all of that psychotic rage come from???

I have my own ideas but I'd like to know what other people think before I offer an opinion.

Talking to some Atheist is like talking to a troll.  The Atheists I know, just tells me what you do with you life is up to you.  What I do with my life is up to me.  I don't have a problem with that.  But then I just might know a better class of atheists.

[TheResister]

I have had some nasty encounters with atheists on discussion boards.  To them, disbelieving is a religion and they are more offended that people don't abandon their religion than believers are if they cannot enlighten the atheist.

"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

Jefferson had his own unorthodox views about Christianity and he was never a part of the MSM of his day.  Atheists claim him as one of theirs (though history testifies against that position.)  So, why do the atheists get their Fruit of the Looms in a bunch over the issue?  All I can factually do is speculate.

[T Dumpster]

Why?

The fool hath said in his hear there is no God!

About sums it up!

[walkstall]

Why?

The fool hath said in his hear there is no God!

About sums it up!

That does not make him/her and Asshole.  Only and atheists, you don't have to be an atheists to be an Asshole.   

[Late-For-Lunch]

Why?

The fool hath said in his hear there is no God!

About sums it up!

Great quote, even without the "t" in "heart". I figured out what you meant fairly easily. That is incidentally a way of expressing the fact that most passionate atheists/agnostics (who believe emphatically that God either definitely does not exist or can't be proven to exist) are feeling-centered personalities, not thinking centered (some are but not many in my experience).

That's because choosing to believe something strongly, then picking and choosing only data which reinforce that apriori conclusion, is an inductive process (rationalization-based, subjective) not a deductive (analytical, evidence-based, objective) process.

Any philosophy major will tell you right off the bat that it is neigh impossible to prove a negative because the evidence-requirement is almost infinite.  One may fairly easily prove any positive assertion (at least to oneself), because that requires only one cogent, materially-relevant data point.

Example, "For me, God exists because I have had irrefutable personal experiences which satisfy my requirement for empirical evidence, to accept that conclusion as valid."

However to prove that God does NOT exist, one would have to substantively / decisively refute/ discredit every single credible account of positive substantiation of His existence from everyone who ever lived and reported one. As previously stated that's not possible for anyone.

Invariably when I confront militant atheists/agnostics with these realities, they still insist that anyone who believes in God is being less rational or fact-based than someone who doesn't. They vehemently insist that they are being entirely rational and not the slightest bit feeling-driven in their conclusion.

The fact that they inevitably end up justifying their "rational conclusions" with strong feelings, intuitions and rationalizations (none of which are rational data points) escapes them as significant.

To me it is obvious that most militant atheists / agnostics are strongly feeling-centered personalities who rely almost exclusively on their strong feelings and intuitions in forming their opinions about the existence or non-existence of God.  They did not reach their conclusions through a rational process and so one cannot talk them out of it by using logic, reason or objective factual arguments.

Furthermore I submit that there is abundant evidence that strident passionate atheists / agnostics are fully focused on addressing not theological or philosophical issues through their mental processes but actually wholly personal psychological ones whose source is wholly and utterly unconscious to them.

"Those who insist most strongly that their unconscious has no influence over their attitudes, conceptions or decisions are those most likely to be utterly dominated by their unconscious." - CG Jung (himself a deist)

[T Dumpster]

It seems to me it is a matter of accepted beliefs contrary to Biblical beliefs, evolution, gay and woman's rights, political correctness. I believe that the world and including all of us  are human beings obviously   inherently evil and that  salvation  is  through faith in Christ alone. Why the vilification? It is expected. Christ said
"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." and
"Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven"
"Are human beings inherently evil?"
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Comment of note" "I never would have even thought that people could be inherently evil but after having participated in groups on Facebook" Hmmmm



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[Late-For-Lunch]

You make some good points!
That being said, I believe that "evil" is a relative term. Many times people use that term when they mean "cruel" or "sadistic" or "wicked". For me, mass murdering demagogues like Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin and possibly the rulers of Iran are truly evil and if there is a Hell, they will feel right at home there.

The people on Facebook are in many ways deeply wicked, sadistic, psychologically sick people (because they have so much schizoaffective hate for people who don't deserve it) but I can't say that I am aware that any of them are truly on the par with mass-murdering despots. Weak people inherently are sadistic and cruel especially to people who are minding their own, because it makes them feel powerful. 

One thing that zealots share often times is a sense that harsh hyperbole is appropriate where is likely it's not.

[Solar]

You make some good points!
That being said, I believe that "evil" is a relative term. Many times people use that term when they mean "cruel" or "sadistic" or "wicked". For me, mass murdering demagogues like Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin and possibly the rulers of Iran are truly evil and if there is a Hell, they will feel right at home there.

The people on Facebook are in many ways deeply wicked, sadistic, psychologically sick people (because they have so much schizoaffective hate for people who don't deserve it) but I can't say that I am aware that any of them are truly on the par with mass-murdering despots. Weak people inherently are sadistic and cruel especially to people who are minding their own, because it makes them feel powerful. 

One thing that zealots share often times is a sense that harsh hyperbole is appropriate where is likely it's not.

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[SalemCat]

No strongly religious person I have ever known was blatantly, aggressively discourteous to atheists either on forums or in person.

Atheists don't challenge Muslims.

[tac]

Atheists don't challenge Muslims.

They want to keep their heads attached.

[Solar]

Atheists don't challenge Muslims.

I've found most atheists are simply anti christian, and not believing is more along the lines of rebellion towards their parents.
A perfect example of confused children was the Darth character that posts here off and on, he was raised by a religious single mother, I think if memory serves, and for whatever reason rebelled later in life as a punishment to her and organized religion.
I feel sorry for these ignorant souls, it's not that they actually are fervent believers in nothing, it's more that they reject people of faith with their prejudice because they still have mommy issues.
Case in point, Newdow. I met this guy in Sacto. and if there was ever a man with mommy issues, it's him.
Actually it's safer to say he has women issues, but that's aside the point....

http://religionnews.com/2016/01/19/atheist-seeks-removal-god-us-currency/

[T Dumpster]

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"evil" is a relative term?

I can't agree that evil is a relative term based upon what I believe the Bible says.

What I am trying to say is that we all are guilty before God and to love thy neighbor as thyself is not attainable without God for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Of course we meet and know  those that to us are  good likable people and others that ain't so. But our condition here on earth is one of an evil planet. The Hitlers and their  herds  are examples of how depraved earthlings are. Unfortunately they are still among us. What keeps us from being wiped into oblivion is Christ who was sent to Earth to make reconciliation for our inadequacy.

Therefore it is not unexpected that  passionate atheists are raging.

Psalm 2,"Why do the heathens rage, and the people imagine a vain thing,
the Kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together,
against the Lord and against the Lords anointed, saying
Let us break their bands asunder and cast their cords from us."

Appreciate your non raging but otherwise kind comments !


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[T Dumpster]

Learn to use the quote function!!!
Stop pushing your site, or you out the door!!!!

walks

Sorry for the trouble, I will voluntarily be out of here henceforth.

[Late-For-Lunch]

Learn to use the quote function!!!
Stop pushing your site, or you out the door!!!!

walks

Sorry for the trouble, I will voluntarily be out of here henceforth.

Yeah! What the Hell is wrong with you Dumpster!?! 

Just kidding, man!

I got suspended for forgetting to use the quote and I didn't quit !! It just takes some getting used to (especially if you post at a lot of other forums like I do) but the Mods need the site to be run with quote features on every direct reply or they can't catalogue or classify stuff with any consistency. And most sites don't cotton well to too much self promotion for one's own agenda. Without order there is only chaos. I took my ten lashes and I'm still able to laugh about it ('used the time for self reflection and excessive drinking!). You merely got a verbal chiding.

Don't be so sensitive.