what are we Christians to anticipate as we see the day approaching

Started by dadman, June 12, 2015, 12:38:49 PM

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Mountainshield

Only God know's when the end times come, and so many things that has to come before it seems to be far away. The reconstruction of the Temple (I pray this happen in my lifetime) and that Israel will be at peace with it's closest neighbor (not really the case today).

So I don't give the end times much thought other than that is when my soul will be resurrected as I understand the theology.

Quote from: kroz on June 15, 2015, 05:25:10 PM
Our Sunday message began with the announcement that the Scriptures are NOT politically correct....... nor was Jesus Christ.

Not that we didn't all already know that, but it was a poignant reminder to the things that set us apart from the world.  We see and hear the words given to us by God.  The world does not, and cannot.

Therefore the chasm between the believers and the world will grow increasingly wide.

The persecution will increase.

Yeah the Bible clearly tell us to be outsiders to society when it comes to it popular culture. Which has been hard for us neo-Christians since Christianity has been popular culture for so many centuries we are now back to being outsiders.

red_dirt

Quote from: Mountainshield on July 30, 2015, 09:47:06 AM
Yeah the Bible clearly tell us to be outsiders to society when it comes to it popular culture. Which has been hard for us neo-Christians since Christianity has been popular culture for so many centuries we are now back to being outsiders.

We did not become one of the dominant forces because we have nothing to say.  Neither were we one of the driving forces behind America's settlement, independence, and governing documents.

We are being marginalized, according to many observers, because the national  leadership has been occupied by Godless Communists and foreign sympathizers.
When Ted Cruz says, "Break the Washington Cartel," he might well phrase it, "clean out the nest of vipers."

In order to degrade America, according to communist strategy, and I quote, "There must be no standing belief in the church, and the power of the church must be denied at every hand."

Everywhere we look, we see this agenda in place. It has heightened especially during this administration, but really, we are talking about a long term communist mission.





red_dirt

Here is a little week end read. Quick and easy refresher on a little understood part of our history. We always pick up a little info previously overlooked.  :biggrin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire

kroz

Quote from: red_dirt on August 07, 2015, 10:30:54 AM
Here is a little week end read. Quick and easy refresher on a little understood part of our history. We always pick up a little info previously overlooked.  :biggrin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire

Good read.  Thanks red.

I have always been fascinated with the Byzantine Empire and the historical significance of Constantinople (Istanbul).  So I was thrilled when my husband suggested we take a trip there.  It was an amazing peek into centuries of historical ruins and a cultural blend of East and West.  It has long been a geographically strategic place to control politically. 

Can you imagine the concern in Christian circles when Constantine decided to wed the "church" and State?  There were undoubtedly some who thought it would be the end of Christianity.

But nothing can destroy what God has created for His people.  The true faith survived.... but went through many dark days.

red_dirt

One thing I have heard recently is that the horrors and atrocities of the Byzantine Empire were so traumatic that the Christians, Jews, and Gentiles of Northern and Southern Europe simply erased that period from their memories and history, blamed it on the Huns, and called it the Dark Ages.

dadman

Quote from: Reverend on July 21, 2015, 01:49:16 AM
Quote from: dadman on June 12, 2015, 12:38:49 PM

Is that a picture of the Pope I see on your website, insinuating that Catholicism is a "false religion"?

I have my share of problems with the RCC, but it may interest you to know that the RCC is doing everything it can to maintain the sanctity of marriage in this generation, despite what the U.S. Supreme Court says. It is also trying to beat back the plague of abortion in America and around the world.

It may also interest you to know that your apparent theology, known as "dispensationalism", is in fact a false doctrine, invented in the 1800's by John Nelson Darby, and was never taught by the historic Church. I know because I was raised on this tripe and eventually recanted.

We've got enough problems without dividing the Church and accusing fellow Christians of being anti-Christs. Let he who has ears, hear.

well, I'm sorry but I see the RCC still in need of evangelization .... no Church or Organization can save you ... there is only ONE head of the Church ... no MAN has the power to forgive sin ... there is now therefore NO MORE sacrifice for sins ... in other words "IT IS FINISHED" ... and yes my eye is on the pope as the possible Rev 13 False prophet

Reverend

Quote from: dadman on August 12, 2015, 10:53:04 AM
well, I'm sorry but I see the RCC still in need of evangelization .... no Church or Organization can save you ... there is only ONE head of the Church ... no MAN has the power to forgive sin ... there is now therefore NO MORE sacrifice for sins ... in other words "IT IS FINISHED" ... and yes my eye is on the pope as the possible Rev 13 False prophet

Well, excuse me all to hell but you and everybody who perpetuates the false doctrine of Dispensationalism are false prophets. Let that sink in. 

kit saginaw

Quote from: Reverend on August 16, 2015, 02:03:10 AM
Well, excuse me all to hell but you and everybody who perpetuates the false doctrine of Dispensationalism are false prophets. Let that sink in.

Agreed.  It'd be like God musing:  " Well, Jesus was a flop so I might as well destroy the planet after only 2,000 solar-orbits. "


Reverend

Quote from: kit saginaw on August 16, 2015, 04:13:26 AM
Agreed.  It'd be like God musing:  " Well, Jesus was a flop so I might as well destroy the planet after only 2,000 solar-orbits. "

...and the Jews are just out of luck...

walkstall

A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

dadman

Quote from: Reverend on August 16, 2015, 02:03:10 AM
Well, excuse me all to hell but you and everybody who perpetuates the false doctrine of Dispensationalism are false prophets. Let that sink in.
wow !! ... you really got me on that one ... especially since you backed up your position with scripture lol .... What Difference does it make / rightly dividing the Word of Truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwMjcJvyF2Q


Let this sink in

Reverend

Quote from: dadman on August 16, 2015, 08:07:13 AM
wow !! ... you really got me on that one ... especially since you backed up your position with scripture lol .... What Difference does it make / rightly dividing the Word of Truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwMjcJvyF2Q


Let this sink in

I'll tell you what, why don't you back up YOUR position with scripture? Show me where the word rapture is located in scripture. Show me where there is a second and a third coming of Christ. Show me where it says that the anti-Christ is a Catholic Bishop. Show me where it says that Revelation is written for a 21st century audience. Show me where it says that none of this has happened before.

You are engaging in the logical fallacy of "begging the question":

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html

Reverend