what are we Christians to anticipate as we see the day approaching

[Reverend]

One more thing:

Well no it really kinda does ... Revelation 17 describes a massive religious system that describes the character and doctrines of the RCC to a tee ... not only that, the audio files I've posted reveal the un-Biblical doctrine and practices of the RCC described in the titles ...

I was somewhat dismayed to see that John MacArthur is a party to the kind of superstition you post here. Tell me, have you  listened to Jimmy Aiken, a Catholic apologist, to hear his side of the story? That's what educated people do, they gather all the facts and THEN decide for themselves.

I have my share of problems with the RCC, NONE of which have anything to do with the slander you post. There are enough real issues with the RCC to deal with without resorting to lies.

[kroz]

I think that an actual real Christian in the RCC (hopefully) would realize that as far as salvation is concerned they have absolutely no "need" for the RCC ... no "church" has the power to save you ... being added to the church does not add you to the Lord .... being added to the Lord is what adds you to the Church .... the RCC claims that THEY are necessary for salvation ... < and this is not correct .... I need no "man" to forgive my sins ... my sins were forgiven by God at the cross of Jesus .. past / present and future ... i t - i s  - f i n i s h e d  .... Jesus' sacrifice was a ONE TIME event - NEVER to be repeated again .... I don't need to live a life asking God to forgive my sins ... I live a life THANKING God FOR forgiving my sins

amen and agreed

and I really wonder about this .... has any money been transferred from the $$$ Vatican $$$ ... to the homeless and the poor ?? .... I remember a big media event where the pope snuck out of the Vatican to wonder alone down to the back alley poor and homeless ... question: if this was supposed to be some secret deal then WHY do we even know about it ? ... where are those homeless today ? ... are they in homes ? ... why do we never hear about the conclusion to these stories ? .... or are they just big propaganda media driven events ..... if the pope is prostrate flat in prayer on the floor ... why are there photos of this ? .... I think I remember Jesus' words ... when you pray, get in your closet, and not to be seen in public for the praise of men ... you would indeed have your reward .... I'm sure there many who could enlighten me on this ..... have a great evening

I don't disagree with you on anything.

However this is not a journey I really want to take.  I will leave this to you and the Rev.

[dadman]

Amen Kroz

I am not "defending" anything, I am challenging YOU to Biblically and scripturally display the legitimacy of your own statements here, which you have yet to do. When challenged on your own superstition, all you have done is change the subject to "Mary worship" (a false claim in and of itself)

So tell me what the RCC claims about Mary / Co-Meditrix (Mary plays a part in salvation)  how do you biblically defend this ? .... was Mary born sinless ? / did she remain a virgin throughout life ? Mt 1:25 UNTIL[/url]) ... and why does the RCC call her "Queen of Heaven" ?

You claim Rev 17 is about the RCC, prove your case

no, I said Rev 17 > Describes < the Roman catholic Church .... drunk w/ the blood of the saints ? Q 4 the Reverend = how many were murdered as a result of the Spanish Inquision (actual Christians were murdered) .. give me an approx number .... are you dogmatic that the RCC cannot evolve into this > United Europe / Revived Roman Empire < ??

(From Wikipedia): in apocryphal writings, "Babylon" is a cryptic name for Rome. Reinhard Feldmeier speculates that "Babylon" is used to refer to Rome in 1 Peter 5:13. In Revelation 17:9 it is said that she sits on "seven mountains", typically understood as the seven hills of Rome. A Roman coin minted under the Emperor Vespasian (ca. 70 AD) depicts Rome as a woman sitting on seven hills

yes indeed Reverend ... you have just displayed a very good description of this new Revived Roman Catholic Empire in Rev 17 < you really should go hear some Biblical teaching audios on this

I can also recommend a couple of books for you on the subject, if you can read

really? have you listened to any of the audios I've posted ? .. all I really need is the Word of God ... and yes I can read mr. derogatory

Your claims are cultic superstition, the stuff that Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons preach, which is funny considering that both of those cults are heretical themselves

Careful now there Reverend .... you don't want to be guilty of what you accuse others of ... calling an entire assembly of Christians "cults that are heretical" ....... REMEMBER: This a Religion forum, primarily Christian, where Christians can discuss religion, learn from one another, but when someone comes in trashing another Christians beliefs (JWs / Mormons), interpretation of said belief, right or wrong, you Reverend have crossed the line ..... lol

"you know it was you Reverend who brought up this issue of the Pope and the RCC and that any deviation from the RCC is "dividing" the Body of christ" .... Judging by your posts here it is plain to me that you don't even know that Catholics believe, like this ....
"well here is just an example of what some Catholics believe  ... homosexuality no longer a sin ?" ... Really? That's news to me, since the RCC is one of the last holdouts, refusing to recognize so-called "gay marriage". I would suggest that you confine yourself to facts and not wild claims

Catholics Support Gay Marriage as Much as General Population and Believe Pope Francis Has Backed It, PRRI Study Finds ..... A study by the Public Religion Research Institute released in August on the beliefs of American Catholics has found that despite the Church's teachings, they support same-sex marriage and abortion just as much as the general population. What is more, a large percentage of Catholic respondents mistakenly believed Pope Francis has backed gay marriage .... continue ... your pope better have a frank discussion w/ his RCC followers on this matter

or hey how bout this one ... when the priest consecrates the host, you would immediately see Jesus Christ ... however God over rules this miracle by a greater miracle keeping the appearances of bread and wine inorder that you might eat the flesh of Jesus christ without difficulty ...... and you find this where in the bible ?? < or is this just the result of another false religion failing to close the canon and "adding to" the Word of God > ONCE < delivered to the saints as the RCC has

Pope Francis has sent his blessing to a lesbian author of children's books dealing with same-sex families, wishing her and her wife well in their work, it emerged on Friday ... As Vatican officials scrambled to clarify that the message was simply a standard courtesy which did not signal any change in Church teaching on the subject, the author told AFP she had been pleasantly surprised to have received such a positive response ... lol wink wink

you see, I was born and raised in the Catholic church ... I don't believe you [ well tough sht - I can display my 8th grd report card from Sister Andelores ]..  nobody could be born and raised in the Catholic church and be as ignorant about what they believe as you are. Like this: ... "especially when the RCC teaches non-Biblical doctrine and proclaims a salvation to be attained by a system of works" .... Really? Feel free to expound on this "system of works" as you understand it.

the sacrements are a works system

did Jesus promote and embrace the doctrines of the Pharisees and Sadducees and just go along to "get along" ?? .. God forbid .. no, he set them straight and lifted the Law back to where God intended it to be and then expounded and displayed the Spirit of the Law and then proceeded to the cross to die for the sins of man ... because man has no ability to "keep the Law" and indeed needs a Savior ... did Jesus "hate" the Pharisees and Sadducees ?? .. not at all .. but boy they sure hated him now didn't they" ......
Jesus was a Jew, he wasn't a white Protestant. He told his followers "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat,  so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice." That's in Matt. 23, since you probably don't know. Jesus didn't try to undermine the Pharisees's authority, although he did criticize their personal conduct ..... Jesus knew the Pharisees knew what they were talking about when it came to the Law because he was a teacher himself. Uneducated men like yourself use the Pharisees and Sadducees as an excuse to ridicule clergy just for being clergy

no, I ridicule your RCC clergy for failing to close the canon / preaching false doctrine as in mixing law and grace (dragging the OT into the NT) and .. there is no such thing as a Biblical Pope .. the office of the earthly priest is over < Jesus Christ is the head of the Church and now our great high priest < see: Hebrews

"okay well that is fine ... maybe you should give yourself some opportunities to Biblically and Scripturally refute my refutations of you ..... that IS what a Religion Debate Forum is all about ... right ??"  .... When you can engage in some actual debate then I am willing to try it. So far you have committed at least three logical fallacies (you can look that up) in addition to some actual falsehoods. That is not debate, that is ranting. The hardest part with you is deciding where to start because your posts are so error filled

Oh please spare me ..... catch ya later :)

[Reverend]

he sacrements are a works system

Do you know what the word "sacrament" means? No, you don't. "Raised in the Catholic Church" my foot. You can't even spell "sacrament".

but when someone comes in trashing another Christians beliefs (JWs / Mormons), interpretation of said belief, right or wrong, you Reverend have crossed the line ..... lol

So you think Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are Christian now, but Catholics are not?

Catholics Support Gay Marriage as Much as General Population and Believe Pope Francis Has Backed It, PRRI Study Finds ..... A study by the Public Religion Research Institute released in August on the beliefs of American Catholics has found that despite the Church's teachings, they support same-sex marriage and abortion just as much as the general population. What is more, a large percentage of Catholic respondents mistakenly believed Pope Francis has backed gay marriage .... continue ... your pope better have a frank discussion w/ his RCC followers on this matter

or hey how bout this one ... when the priest consecrates the host, you would immediately see Jesus Christ ... however God over rules this miracle by a greater miracle keeping the appearances of bread and wine inorder that you might eat the flesh of Jesus christ without difficulty ...... and you find this where in the bible ?? < or is this just the result of another false religion failing to close the canon and "adding to" the Word of God > ONCE < delivered to the saints as the RCC has

Pope Francis has sent his blessing to a lesbian author of children's books dealing with same-sex families, wishing her and her wife well in their work, it emerged on Friday ... As Vatican officials scrambled to clarify that the message was simply a standard courtesy which did not signal any change in Church teaching on the subject, the author told AFP she had been pleasantly surprised to have received such a positive response ... lol wink wink

Do you know what? I don't believe you were ever a part of the RCC, I don't think you are any kind of a theologian, I think you are one of those Biblically illiterate types who hates Catlicks, Jews, blacks, and homos, and tries to use the Bible to justify it because that's what you sound like. 

[Solar]

Do you know what the word "sacrament" means? No, you don't. "Raised in the Catholic Church" my foot. You can't even spell "sacrament".

So you think Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are Christian now, but Catholics are not?

Do you know what? I don't believe you were ever a part of the RCC, I don't think you are any kind of a theologian, I think you are one of those Biblically illiterate types who hates Catlicks, Jews, blacks, and homos, and tries to use the Bible to justify it because that's what you sound like.

Who were you responding?
This may help.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/help-7/how-to-segment-quotes/msg259938/

I have a question you may be able to answer, or anyone else is welcome to take a shot.
Can you tell me what my home town of Sacramento means?
I know what Sacrament means, but does anyone know why the damned "O" is added to the end?

Was it an exciting Sacrament, and everyone went O...my. OK, I jest, but it's a stupid question I've had since I was a little kid.

What I'm waiting for, is the idiot libs to start demanding all these cities in Ca, like Los Angles, Sacramento and many others with Christian roots, to be changed.
Boy will that raise a stink.

[Reverend]

Who were you responding?
This may help.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/help-7/how-to-segment-quotes/msg259938/

I have a question you may be able to answer, or anyone else is welcome to take a shot.
Can you tell me what my home town of Sacramento means?
I know what Sacrament means, but does anyone know why the damned "O" is added to the end?

Was it an exciting Sacrament, and everyone went O...my. OK, I jest, but it's a stupid question I've had since I was a little kid.

What I'm waiting for, is the idiot libs to start demanding all these cities in Ca, like Los Angles, Sacramento and many others with Christian roots, to be changed.
Boy will that raise a stink.

That was Dadgum I was speaking to.

According to Wikipedia, Sacramento is named after the Sacramento river. Evidently "sacramento" is a Spanish word for sacrament.

Los Angeles, Sacramento, Corpus Christi - San Francisco means "St. Francis", and everybody should know who he was, but they will be the first to cave in and change the name of the city to "there is no God" in some language...

[Solar]

That was Dadgum I was speaking to.

According to Wikipedia, Sacramento is named after the Sacramento river. Evidently "sacramento" is a Spanish word for sacrament.

Thanks, I knew all that, just wondered why the added O at the end of Sacrament, if it had any biblical meaning.

Los Angeles, Sacramento, Corpus Christi - San Francisco means "St. Francis", and everybody should know who he was, but they will be the first to cave in and change the name of the city to "there is no God" in some language...
http://www.redstate.com/diary/freedomrepublican/2015/03/09/12-reasons-why-conservatives-should-reject-scott-walker

Well, the Bay Area does sit in the shadow of Mt Diablo (Devil mountain). How appropriate is that?

[dadman]

The Big List Of 33 Things That Are Going To Happen In September 2015
By Michael Snyder, on August 19th, 2015

Is September 2015 going to be a month that changes history? For months, there has been an unprecedented amount of buzz all over the Internet about what is going to happen in September. And without a doubt, we are going to witness a convergence of events during that month that is quite remarkable. What I have attempted to do in this article is to put together a list of things that we know will happen next month. Some of the lists that I have seen contain things that cannot be proven or that are simply inaccurate. And of course it is very likely that some things will happen in September that we cannot anticipate right now. I am just providing the information that I have at this time, and it is up to you and your family to prepare for what you believe will happen. The following is my big list of 33 things that are going to happen in September 2015...




Do not post entire articles, it's a copyright violation.  Generally, four paragraphs or text not exceeding 200 words is considered fair usage, it is always best to credit the original source.

I see you did credit the original source. 

As a Christians you keep pressing your luck dadman .

[kroz]

I would have liked to have seen your list, dadman.

Can you condense it into your own words?

This particular Rosh Hashanah is of interest to me because it comes in connection with the blood moon.  That could have significance.

[Solar]

The Big List Of 33 Things That Are Going To Happen In September 2015
By Michael Snyder, on August 19th, 2015

Is September 2015 going to be a month that changes history? For months, there has been an unprecedented amount of buzz all over the Internet about what is going to happen in September. And without a doubt, we are going to witness a convergence of events during that month that is quite remarkable. What I have attempted to do in this article is to put together a list of things that we know will happen next month. Some of the lists that I have seen contain things that cannot be proven or that are simply inaccurate. And of course it is very likely that some things will happen in September that we cannot anticipate right now. I am just providing the information that I have at this time, and it is up to you and your family to prepare for what you believe will happen. The following is my big list of 33 things that are going to happen in September 2015...




Do not post entire articles, it's a copyright violation.  Generally, four paragraphs or text not exceeding 200 words is considered fair usage, it is always best to credit the original source.

I see you did credit the original source. 

As a Christians you keep pressing your luck dadman .

Can you link to it?

[walkstall]

Can you link to it?

Was not that hard to find on the net.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-big-list-of-33-things-that-are-going-to-happen-in-september-2015

[kroz]

Was not that hard to find on the net.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-big-list-of-33-things-that-are-going-to-happen-in-september-2015

Can't say that I was impressed.   

Only a few of those things have merit in my book.  Overstating the case causes it to lose credibility. 

I do believe we are on the precipice of significant changes in this Country and around the world, but this list does not change anything.

I do believe that the "signs" in the sky (blood moon) in connection with Rosh Hashanah is worthy to note.  But I am not sure what conclusion we should draw.  We will obviously know more after it occurs.  The Bible says that God has given us the heavenly bodies as a "sign".  There are times that He has communicated to men through these heavenly bodies.  We all know he used a star to guide the wise men to the Nativity.  We also know that He caused the sun to stand still for an entire day (Joshua 10:13).  There are other instances mentioned in the Bible in which God used these bodies as signs.  So, I try to take note of unusual phenomenon in the sky.

Beyond that, it is conjecture.

[Solar]

There is one point I definitely agree with.

"As a result, Americans may be forced to rely on themselves for protection, meaning Christians have to begin planning now."

[dadman]

My paticular interest will be watching the pope and obama on the 23rd to the 27th ...
we know they have shared goals but how much will they display (combining power and influence)
concerning a One World Religion and a One World Government .... and the message will be peace peace peace ... world peace / unity / tolerance ...
what I have my ear to the ground for is the beginning of the Tribulation period (if the rapture happens nevermind) ... the rider of the White Horse kicking this thing off ...
how much of this will be that the Jews have no right to the Land of israel and we'll start with making Jerusalem an "international" city ...
or even a "peace treaty" with Israel "protecting" them for a period of 7 years ........ yes I will be watching closely

[kroz]

My paticular interest will be watching the pope and obama on the 23rd to the 27th ...
we know they have shared goals but how much will they display (combining power and influence)
concerning a One World Religion and a One World Government .... and the message will be peace peace peace ... world peace / unity / tolerance ...
what I have my ear to the ground for is the beginning of the Tribulation period (if the rapture happens nevermind) ... the rider of the White Horse kicking this thing off ...
how much of this will be that the Jews have no right to the Land of israel and we'll start with making Jerusalem an "international" city ...
or even a "peace treaty" with Israel "protecting" them for a period of 7 years ........ yes I will be watching closely

Yes, that would be interesting indeed, dadman!!!   

If that happens, all Christians with knowledge of the Scripture will mark their calendars!!!