We will not bow down

Started by kroz, July 25, 2015, 10:15:29 AM

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red_dirt

Quote from: je_freedom on August 02, 2015, 09:32:38 AM
I should have given more context.
My previous post reports events that occurred roughly 450 B.C.
God had allowed Babylon to carry Israel into captivity,
to punish Israel for their sinful ways (which are nearly identical to America's current ways.)
Seventy years later, a coup handed the kingdom of Babylon to Persia (Iran).
The king of Persia then allowed Israel to return to their homeland.
The quotation in my previous post is part of a letter from the king of Persia
to Ezra, who was the leader of those Israelis back to their homeland.

With the coming of the Messiah, the Lord made of His house a royal priesthood.
We are not bystanders or observers. This is our fight.

kroz

Quote from: je_freedom on August 02, 2015, 08:40:39 AM
Here is the oldest record of the church being tax exempt:

http://biblehub.com/ezra/7-24.htm

Context - Artaxerxes' Letter to Ezra

...23  "Whatever is commanded by the God of heaven, let it be done with zeal for the house of the God of heaven, so that there will not be wrath against the kingdom of the king and his sons.

24  "We also inform you that it is not allowed to impose tax, tribute or toll on any of the priests, Levites, singers, doorkeepers, Nethinim or servants of this house of God.

25  "You, Ezra, according to the wisdom of your God which is in your hand, appoint magistrates and judges that they may judge all the people who are in the province beyond the River, even all those who know the laws of your God; and you may teach anyone who is ignorant of them....


This was decreed by a foreign king who feared God.  He declared the Lord's work to be tax exempt. 
He also decreed that civil authority should be given to those who "know the laws of your God"
- unlike today, where "gay marriage" is being used to force people OUT of civil authority,
and even out of their own privately owned businesses!

Tell me a king today who fears God?

I know of none.  There in lies our unholy alliance with the government.  We are unequally yoked.


je_freedom

#17
A king who fears God does not tax the church.
A king who does not fear God taxes the church, or puts conditions on the tax exemption.

Starting with Senator Lyndon Johnson in the 1950s:
"You WILL NOT criticize government policy, no matter how sinful it is!"

Then Barry the Occupier:
"You WILL pay for employees' abortions!  You WILL participate in homosexual weddings!"

As I said in a previous post: 
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/how-churches-led-america-to-forsake-god!/
Christians could EASILY throw out these antichrist rulers in ONE ELECTION,
if they would just take even a MINIMAL level of action!

But 30 million evangelicals never vote!
48% of Catholic voters voted to RE-elect The Illegitimate One!

Many millions of "Christians" keep bowing constantly!
Many millions of "Christians" are KEEPING THIS ANTICHRIST IN POWER!

We "unequally yoked" Christians need to grab our end of the yoke,
give it a good jerk, and BREAK THE ANTICHRIST'S NECK!

Here are the 10 RINOs who voted to impeach Trump on Jan. 13, 2021 - NEVER forget!
WY  Liz Cheney      SC 7  Tom Rice             WA 4  Dan Newhouse    IL 16  Adam Kinzinger    OH 16  Anthony Gonzalez
MI 6  Fred Upton    WA 3  Jaime Herrera Beutler    MI 3  Peter Meijer       NY 24  John Katko       CA 21  David Valadao

walkstall

Quote from: je_freedom on August 02, 2015, 05:49:06 PM
A king who fears God does not tax the church.
A king who does not fear God taxes the church, or puts conditions on the tax exemption.

Starting with Senator Lyndon Johnson in the 1950s:
"You WILL NOT criticize government policy, no matter how sinful it is!"

Then Barry the Occupier:
"You WILL pay for employees' abortions!  You WILL participate in homosexual weddings!"

As I said in a previous post: 
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/how-churches-led-america-to-forsake-god!/
Christians could EASILY throw out these antichrist rulers in ONE ELECTION,
if they would just take even a MINIMAL level of action!

But 30 million evangelicals never vote!
48% of Catholic voters voted to RE-elect The Illegitimate One!

Many millions of "Christians" keep bowing constantly!
Many millions of "Christians" are KEEPING THIS ANTICHRIST IN POWER!

We "unequally yoked" Christians need to grab our end of the yoke,
give it a good jerk, and BREAK THE ANTICHRIST'S NECK!


Hmm...
So 48% of Catholic voters told how they voted?

I am always amazed how they come up with how people vote on a secret ballot.  Not only that but it's amazing how they know they are Catholic. 

I always find it's the nonvoters that always helps elect the politicians, even if there is a third party. 
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

je_freedom

walkstall said:
QuoteSo 48% of Catholic voters told how they voted?

This kind of data is obtained through exit polls.
Pollsters stand outside the voting places and query people about how they voted.
They also collect demographic data from each voter
so they can break out the results by race, gender, age, income, religion, etc.

Here are the 10 RINOs who voted to impeach Trump on Jan. 13, 2021 - NEVER forget!
WY  Liz Cheney      SC 7  Tom Rice             WA 4  Dan Newhouse    IL 16  Adam Kinzinger    OH 16  Anthony Gonzalez
MI 6  Fred Upton    WA 3  Jaime Herrera Beutler    MI 3  Peter Meijer       NY 24  John Katko       CA 21  David Valadao

walkstall

Quote from: je_freedom on August 02, 2015, 09:12:58 PM
walkstall said:
This kind of data is obtained through exit polls.
Pollsters stand outside the voting places and query people about how they voted.
They also collect demographic data from each voter
so they can break out the results by race, gender, age, income, religion, etc.

Wow!!  that a lot of Pollsters.  But then I always told them to kiss off, as a lot of people that I know did.  In Washington state you do not have to go to the poll to vote.  Most vote by mail, that why I question the number of Pollsters.  It's like all polls they get what there looking for. 

Please start using the quote function, as we can click on the name and go right to the full post if need be.  This also helps with the flow. 
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

zewazir

Quote from: je_freedom on August 02, 2015, 09:12:58 PM
walkstall said:
This kind of data is obtained through exit polls.
Pollsters stand outside the voting places and query people about how they voted.
They also collect demographic data from each voter
so they can break out the results by race, gender, age, income, religion, etc.
And the polled NEVER lie.

The thing is, how many here would even answer an exit poll?  How many true conservatives would give information of how they voted, let alone their religious affiliation, and other personal information to some liberal media twit with a clipboard?

OTOH, liberals lie by habit. Their entire agenda is founded on lies. And how better to make their lord and savior Obama seem more acceptable than to claim members of a church which is world wide renown for its stance against abortion and homosexual marriage?

And let's not even go into the idea that the media with all their polls are not what one would label as honest.

That said, there are a significant number of Catholic democrats who have bought into the, "Vote liberal and help your neighbor like God wants," mantra.  But I highly doubt it is anywhere near 48%. And I will hypothesize that the number who voted once was higher than the number that voted for O twice, with further supposition that the number which still support O is smaller yet.

walkstall

Quote from: zewazir on August 03, 2015, 02:14:32 PM
And the polled NEVER lie.

The thing is, how many here would even answer an exit poll?  How many true conservatives would give information of how they voted, let alone their religious affiliation, and other personal information to some liberal media twit with a clipboard?

OTOH, liberals lie by habit. Their entire agenda is founded on lies. And how better to make their lord and savior Obama seem more acceptable than to claim members of a church which is world wide renown for its stance against abortion and homosexual marriage?

And let's not even go into the idea that the media with all their polls are not what one would label as honest.

That said, there are a significant number of Catholic democrats who have bought into the, "Vote liberal and help your neighbor like God wants," mantra.  But I highly doubt it is anywhere near 48%. And I will hypothesize that the number who voted once was higher than the number that voted for O twice, with further supposition that the number which still support O is smaller yet.

Anyone that thinks polls and exit polls don't have an agenda are  Uninformed Voter!!  What you tell them, what they put down and the truth may be three different things.    :sneaky:
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

dadman

Quote from: kroz on July 26, 2015, 03:47:58 PM
I don't even remember that incident, je.

But I look for things like this to get worse.  Obama is very vindictive.

I'm starting to believe that Obama is actually an Islamic plant .... he's very deceptive and cunning .. he has played his part very well ... every negotiation his admin has been involved with leaves the Islamic forces impowered and the US with our hands ties .... seems to me

supsalemgr

Quote from: dadman on August 12, 2015, 08:38:16 AM
I'm starting to believe that Obama is actually an Islamic plant .... he's very deceptive and cunning .. he has played his part very well ... every negotiation his admin has been involved with leaves the Islamic forces impowered and the US with our hands ties .... seems to me

You are probably on the right track.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

kroz