We will not bow down

Started by kroz, July 25, 2015, 10:15:29 AM

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kroz

The L.A. mega church pastored by Dr. John MacArthur received an official letter from the government last week to cease and desist on the issue of homosexuality.

This past Sunday Dr. MacArthur gave his response to his church flock.

The video and full transcript is available on their website...... gty.org

https://youtu.be/ATv9q2BkRus


Believe me..... this is a shot that will be heard across our land.

tac

I suspect it will not be long before the IRS and DoJ pays him a visit. He's a fantastic preacher, and I rather doubt that he'll be stopped by the left.

kroz

Quote from: tac on July 25, 2015, 10:49:12 AM
I suspect it will not be long before the IRS and DoJ pays him a visit. He's a fantastic preacher, and I rather doubt that he'll be stopped by the left.

Yeah, I really liked the way he started his message.....  much is being said in America about terrorism and terrorists and rightly so......... BUT the two biggest terrorist attacks upon our Nation came from the Supreme Court.

He then goes on to talk about the hundreds of thousands of lives being murdered by abortion and the dismantling of the family with gay marriage.  It was a very persuasive argument!

But the real target is not marriage and family...... it is God.

He also tells of receiving a letter this week from a very powerful Judge who will be loosing his power and influence because he will be removed from the bench for refusing to conduct gay marriages. 

The enemy has everything cued up and ready to go...... All christians in positions of power and influence across this nation will lose their positions.  Lawsuits are going to begin pouring into the court system.

We need to contemplate today what lies ahead and determine our course.  Will we bow down?

Will we follow the pattern of Daniel, Mordecai, and countless biblical saints who refused to bow down?

(Choose you today whom you will serve!  We must unite in the name of the Lord.) My words, not Dr. MacArthur's.

red_dirt

#3
Thank you for posting, Kroz. Especially helpful is the transcript available on the church site. That sermon is as complete a summary of the present as one could ask for.

The tactics of the left have not changed. Aggravate, annoy, pressure, persecute, humiliate Americans into abandoning their positions and property, so  that the left can move in, occupy, and take over. Notice they have done nothing to build up the wealth, in fact the left is a net drain and an erosion of the economy.  Yet they stand eager to enjoy the spoils of this victory.
Corrupt judges and scheming lawyers are atop the pile of reasons why the family unit has been so battered. Pastor MacArthur reminds us the family is a sovereign unit, very much the target.

kroz

Quote from: red_dirt on July 25, 2015, 07:43:46 PM
Thank you for posting, Kroz. Especially helpful is the transcript available on the church site. That sermon is as complete a summary of the present as one could ask for.

The tactics of the left have not changed. Aggravate, annoy, pressure, persecute, humiliate Americans into abandoning their positions and property, so  that the left can move in, occupy, and take over. Notice they have done nothing to build up the wealth, in fact the left is a net drain and an erosion of the economy.  Yet they stand eager to enjoy the spoils of this victory.
Corrupt judges and scheming lawyers are atop the pile of reasons why the family unit has been so battered. Pastor MacArthur reminds us the family is a sovereign unit, very much the target.

Yes, I was so moved by Dr. MacArthur's message that I was compelled to post it here and share it with my mailing list.  There are so few godly leaders today who are willing to set an example for every follower of Christ.

Look for Obama to try and stack the lower courts with liberals during the coming months.  This is the new battle field in our country.

je_freedom

We should remember Indianapolis Baptist Temple.
In 2000, the IRS attacked the church over the grade school it operated. 
The church had decided that it would not be a tax collector,
and so they paid the teachers as independent contractors, not employees.
Every one of the teachers paid their taxes as an independent contractor.
"Nonpayment of taxes" was NOT an issue!
The ONLY issue was, would the church be an agent of the state?

The Clinton Administration started this action.
Some thought that the "Christian" George W. Bush
and the "Christian" Attorney General John Ashcroft
would cease this aggression.
They did not.
In 2001, the IRS seized all the assets of the church
(money, land, buildings, furnishings, everything)
to partly pay the arbitrary fines they had fabricated
and forced it out of business.

Here are the 10 RINOs who voted to impeach Trump on Jan. 13, 2021 - NEVER forget!
WY  Liz Cheney      SC 7  Tom Rice             WA 4  Dan Newhouse    IL 16  Adam Kinzinger    OH 16  Anthony Gonzalez
MI 6  Fred Upton    WA 3  Jaime Herrera Beutler    MI 3  Peter Meijer       NY 24  John Katko       CA 21  David Valadao

kroz

Quote from: je_freedom on July 26, 2015, 03:31:59 PM
We should remember Indianapolis Baptist Temple.
In 2000, the IRS attacked the church over the grade school it operated. 
The church had decided that it would not be a tax collector,
and so they paid the teachers as independent contractors, not employees.
Every one of the teachers paid their taxes as an independent contractor.
"Nonpayment of taxes" was NOT an issue!
The ONLY issue was, would the church be an agent of the state?

The Clinton Administration started this action.
Some thought that the "Christian" George W. Bush
and the "Christian" Attorney General John Ashcroft
would cease this aggression.
They did not.
In 2001, the IRS seized all the assets of the church
(money, land, buildings, furnishings, everything)
to partly pay the arbitrary fines they had fabricated
and forced it out of business.

I don't even remember that incident, je.

But I look for things like this to get worse.  Obama is very vindictive.

je_freedom

I had a hard time finding the link to the transcript of John MacArthur's message.
So, to make it easier for everyone else, here it is:

http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/80-425/we-will-not-bow

Here are the 10 RINOs who voted to impeach Trump on Jan. 13, 2021 - NEVER forget!
WY  Liz Cheney      SC 7  Tom Rice             WA 4  Dan Newhouse    IL 16  Adam Kinzinger    OH 16  Anthony Gonzalez
MI 6  Fred Upton    WA 3  Jaime Herrera Beutler    MI 3  Peter Meijer       NY 24  John Katko       CA 21  David Valadao

kroz

Thanks, je..

You may have noticed that he varied a bit from the written transcript but it is virtually accurate.

It was terrific... IMHO.

red_dirt

Yes, thanks, je. I sent the link to the pastor of my church. That is the "We will not bow down" sermon, hereafter.

ConservativeMe

What disturbs me is the government sent a letter to him, so much for separation of church and state.
CPF is the best!
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www.conservativeme.com

kroz

Quote from: ConservativeMe on July 27, 2015, 01:02:04 PM
What disturbs me is the government sent a letter to him, so much for separation of church and state.

I agree.

They are trying to intimidate him!

kroz

Here is a new call to not bow down from Chuck Baldwin..... a Montana pastor, author, and radio speaker.

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin865.htm

In summation.... we must unhitch our churches from the government..... stop marrying ALL couples with a "license".  The government took over the marriage rite from the church and turned it into an industry requiring a legal license and tribute to Caesar.  The church must untether itself from this ungodly relationship.  That includes the tax exemption for contributions to the church..... which never was a good idea!

je_freedom

Here is the oldest record of the church being tax exempt:

http://biblehub.com/ezra/7-24.htm

Context - Artaxerxes' Letter to Ezra

...23  "Whatever is commanded by the God of heaven, let it be done with zeal for the house of the God of heaven, so that there will not be wrath against the kingdom of the king and his sons.

24  "We also inform you that it is not allowed to impose tax, tribute or toll on any of the priests, Levites, singers, doorkeepers, Nethinim or servants of this house of God.

25  "You, Ezra, according to the wisdom of your God which is in your hand, appoint magistrates and judges that they may judge all the people who are in the province beyond the River, even all those who know the laws of your God; and you may teach anyone who is ignorant of them....


This was decreed by a foreign king who feared God.  He declared the Lord's work to be tax exempt. 
He also decreed that civil authority should be given to those who "know the laws of your God"
- unlike today, where "gay marriage" is being used to force people OUT of civil authority,
and even out of their own privately owned businesses!


Here are the 10 RINOs who voted to impeach Trump on Jan. 13, 2021 - NEVER forget!
WY  Liz Cheney      SC 7  Tom Rice             WA 4  Dan Newhouse    IL 16  Adam Kinzinger    OH 16  Anthony Gonzalez
MI 6  Fred Upton    WA 3  Jaime Herrera Beutler    MI 3  Peter Meijer       NY 24  John Katko       CA 21  David Valadao

je_freedom

I should have given more context.

My previous post reports events that occurred roughly 450 B.C.

God had allowed Babylon to carry Israel into captivity,
to punish Israel for their sinful ways (which are nearly identical to America's current ways.)

Seventy years later, a coup handed the kingdom of Babylon to Persia (Iran).

The king of Persia then allowed Israel to return to their homeland.

The quotation in my previous post is part of a letter from the king of Persia
to Ezra, who was the leader of those Israelis back to their homeland.



Here are the 10 RINOs who voted to impeach Trump on Jan. 13, 2021 - NEVER forget!
WY  Liz Cheney      SC 7  Tom Rice             WA 4  Dan Newhouse    IL 16  Adam Kinzinger    OH 16  Anthony Gonzalez
MI 6  Fred Upton    WA 3  Jaime Herrera Beutler    MI 3  Peter Meijer       NY 24  John Katko       CA 21  David Valadao