This Should Get Interesting

[Solar]

That guy is a hoot. 

That guy is nuts, he gives Religion a bad name.

[Patriot]

With Atheists like Scififool, it is bound to be an interesting forum.

Not a very nice comment to make about a person who disagrees with your religious BS.

[Yawn]

How is that different from your comments and attempts to antagonize?  Your comment seems far worse, especially since you're in the RELIGION forum and make a special effort to mock the beliefs of others.  You're quite a hypocrite.

[Patriot]

That's why you're in charge, to keep things civil.
If you have problems, let Taxed or myself know about it and we'll deal with it on an individual basis.
You should feel safe discussing your faith, because it's a belief, and to attack someone for their beliefs is about as low as one can get.

Which you did by insulting someone as a SciFool ......but that's OK, I suppose if you won't be insulted if someone calls you a Solar Moron.

[Solar]

Which you did by insulting someone as a SciFool ......but that's OK, I suppose if you won't be insulted if someone calls you a Solar Moron.

I might be if the moron trying to insult me had the intellectual capacity beyond that of a seven year old.
Otherwise, I find it amusing, kind of like watching a moth attack a flame.

[Patriot]

How is that different from your comments and attempts to antagonize?  Your comment seems far worse, especially since you're in the RELIGION forum and make a special effort to mock the beliefs of others.  You're quite a hypocrite.

You should be aware of the fact that I never deny your inalienable right to believe in ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING you want as long as you don't hurt others.

However, when even a Jr High student of average, or below average intelligence, is aware of the HORRENDOUS TRAVESTIES perpetrated by Religious Fanatics of your persuasion for decades after decades (and, apparently, you weren't aware of that in your recent post)......and, Religion (imaginary BS) is STILL disrupting World Peace big time (ISLAM)......then pointing out the obvious idiocy of some of the fundamental beliefs of Religion (which some may be historically more civilized but could easily degenerate into barbarity)...... is a necessary service for Humanity.

IMO, the irrefutable way to obviate the continuous battle between religions, and their cults, causing WORLD WIDE TRAVESTY even to this day..... is to realize that religions are simply imaginary BS. Whose actual purpose of providing the "Carrot & the Stick", i.e. rewarding the Good and punishing the Evil with Eternal Heaven & Earth while a salubrious notion.......is more trouble than it is worth.

One can simply replace all this imaginary Religious BS with the Golden Rule:

Do unto others as they would do unto you.

I say "obvious idiocy" when referring to some Religious practices in the paragraph above because some religious beliefs (which everyone is entitled to believe if they want to) are completely insane.

There are numerous examples at hand to substantiate the FACT that some religious beliefs are INSANE:

You'd be the first to escort Uncle Charlie to the nearest Lunatic Bin if he told you he took the short cut across the lake sashaying on water.

Or, your aunt Maude, if while chomping on a Hamburger, she informed you, matter of factly, that she was dead for a week or so.......but now got hongry and decided that a McDonald Hamburger with French Fries would hit that spot.

Or, howzabout  going completely bonkers and stating that "not A = A" : Virgin Mary (who ain't no virgin) ......is a Virgin) ?

What would YOU do if not dress up your best friendo in a strait jacket if he began running around trying to convince people that apples aren't apples, chairs aren't chairs, etc.......and, actually getting up every Sunday listening to this crap with other whackjobs who actually loaded up the Modern Day Shaman wearing a funny dress with some cumshaw who actually made a living spewing this nonsense ?

[Patriot]

I might be if the moron trying to insult me had the intellectual capacity beyond that of a seven year old.
Otherwise, I find it amusing, kind of like watching a moth attack a flame.

Please note: I correctly chastised you for your obvious breach of etiquette in calling SciFi a SciFool because of your religious or political disagreements.

I did NOT wake up one morning, and because of our past disagreements on several issues, decide to call you a MORON ! ......that would be egregious behaviour nowhere condoned in any Forum.

I merely asked you if YOU would've liked being called a Solar MORON because of your obviously egregious behaviour.

Instead of acknowledging your error in commonplace etiquette, and showing some class for what is hopefully a momentary lapse in good judgment you insult me for my correct behaviour by stating that I did not have : "the intellectual capacity beyond that of a seven year old."

And, that in referring to your OBVIOUS faux pas, you found: " it amusing, kind of like watching a moth attack a flame. "

Now, be a nice little old lady (and, I know that deep in your heart, you know you are), and apologize to me ......and let's have bygones be bygones.

[MFA]

You should be aware of the fact that I never deny your inalienable right to believe in ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING you want as long as you don't hurt others.

That's very Satanic of you...

I'm not trying to insult you or categorize you; it's the primarily rule of Satanism.

However, when even a Jr High student of average, or below average intelligence, is aware of the HORRENDOUS TRAVESTIES perpetrated by Religious Fanatics of your persuasion for decades after decades (and, apparently, you weren't aware of that in your recent post)......and, Religion (imaginary BS) is STILL disrupting World Peace big time (ISLAM)......then pointing out the obvious idiocy of some of the fundamental beliefs of Religion (which some may be historically more civilized but could easily degenerate into barbarity)...... is a necessary service for Humanity.

What's a "travesty"?  Are you talking about perpetrating "evil"?  What exactly is "evil"?  How do you determine what is "barbarity" and what is not?

IMO, the irrefutable way to obviate the continuous battle between religions, and their cults, causing WORLD WIDE TRAVESTY even to this day..... is to realize that religions are simply imaginary BS. Whose actual purpose of providing the "Carrot & the Stick", i.e. rewarding the Good and punishing the Evil with Eternal Heaven & Earth while a salubrious notion.......is more trouble than it is worth.

Well, without God, it's merely "survival of the fittest," or "nature, red in tooth and claw."  There's no "right or wrong," or "good and evil."

One can simply replace all this imaginary Religious BS with the Golden Rule:

Do unto others as they would do unto you.

I say "obvious idiocy" when referring to some Religious practices in the paragraph above because some religious beliefs (which everyone is entitled to believe if they want to) are completely insane.

There are numerous examples at hand to substantiate the FACT that some religious beliefs are INSANE:

You'd be the first to escort Uncle Charlie to the nearest Lunatic Bin if he told you he took the short cut across the lake sashaying on water.

I do it all the time...

Or, your aunt Maude, if while chomping on a Hamburger, she informed you, matter of factly, that she was dead for a week or so.......but now got hongry and decided that a McDonald Hamburger with French Fries would hit that spot.

So...outside your experience is insane?  What if you went back 150 years and told them you were having conversations by pressing buttons and watching lights change in front of you and people you hadn't met from thousands of miles away responded in conversation by doing the same?

[Solar]

Please note: I correctly chastised you for your obvious breach of etiquette in calling SciFi a SciFool because of your religious or political disagreements.

I did NOT wake up one morning, and because of our past disagreements on several issues, decide to call you a MORON ! ......that would be egregious behaviour nowhere condoned in any Forum.

I merely asked you if YOU would've liked being called a Solar MORON because of your obviously egregious behaviour.

Instead of acknowledging your error in commonplace etiquette, and showing some class for what is hopefully a momentary lapse in good judgment you insult me for my correct behaviour by stating that I did not have : "the intellectual capacity beyond that of a seven year old."

And, that in referring to your OBVIOUS faux pas, you found: " it amusing, kind of like watching a moth attack a flame. "

Now, be a nice little old lady (and, I know that deep in your heart, you know you are), and apologize to me ......and let's have bygones be bygones.

Your need to insult in an offhanded manner speaks volumes on your lack of character.
You are a guest in this house and as a guest, you know it is not wise to insult your host, correct?
Taking on the host in his own backyard is about as stupid a move one can possibly make.

So apologize, and we can  move on.

Do I make myself clear?

[kramarat]

Believing in God, or even Christ as the Savior, is NOT a religion.

We seem to be getting quite a few passing through that have a huge chip on their shoulder, over something they say doesn't exist.

Religion is what happens when humans decide to agree on a certain set of beliefs and band together around those beliefs. It's not always centered around God..................and yes, religion has been behind some horrible things over the course of time, including Christianity.

I wish you people that get on here simply to berate Christians, would either make a point,(if you have one), or move on.

[Patriot]

That's very Satanic of you...

I'm not trying to insult you or categorize you; it's the primarily rule of Satanism.

Patriot's response: Why is it Satanic to have people believe in whatever they want as long as they don't hurt anyone ? Is it your pompous and presumptuous premise that one is allowed to believe only in Christian dogma ? I suppose you miss them thar wonderful days of Torquemada and the Spanish Inquisition ?

What's a "travesty"?  Are you talking about perpetrating "evil"?  What exactly is "evil"?  How do you determine what is "barbarity" and what is not?

Patriot's response: Use the Golden Rule as the measuring stick ....if that's too deep fer ya, have another drink.

Well, without God, it's merely "survival of the fittest," or "nature, red in tooth and claw."  There's no "right or wrong," or "good and evil."

Patriot's response: Utter nonsense. Good or Evil exist independent of the existence or non-existence of the Imaginary God or Satan.

The Greatest Minds in the History of Mankind ALL came to the unanimous conclusion that it is impossible to prove the existence or non-existence of God (or Satan). You can confirm that by calling any Chairman of the Philosophical Dept in any reputable University in the World. Including some of the less fanatical Religious Universities.

That being so.......it follows that if it's impossible to prove the existence or non-existence of God (Satan).....and we KNOW that Good and Evil exist, my point is proved.

I do it all the time...

Patriot's response: Personally, I don't give a phuk.

So...outside your experience is insane?  What if you went back 150 years and told them you were having conversations by pressing buttons and watching lights change in front of you and people you hadn't met from thousands of miles away responded in conversation by doing the same?

Patriot's response: going back a 1000 or 2000 years back you still couldn't tell anyone that your uncle Charlie, Aunt Maude, or anyone that thinks that "Not A =A" isn't a Whackjob and shouldn't be strait-jacketed and thrown into the nearest Lunatic Bin. 

See my responses above and wise up.

[Patriot]

Your need to insult in an offhanded manner speaks volumes on your lack of character.
You are a guest in this house and as a guest, you know it is not wise to insult your host, correct?
Taking on the host in his own backyard is about as stupid a move one can possibly make.

So apologize, and we can  move on.

Do I make myself clear?

In order to refresh your memory about the incident that precipitated your declasse behaviour I printed the post (see below) that continues to expose your bad manners, and continues to expose my sadness that perhaps you do not deserve my faith that your upbringing is as anywhere close to you being a considerate little ole lady with a shred of decency to your guests on the Forum:

Quote from: Patriot on Today at 08:52:15 AM

" Please note: I (The Patriot) correctly chastised you for your obvious breach of etiquette in calling SciFi a SciFool because of your religious or political disagreements.

    I did NOT wake up one morning, and because of our past disagreements on several issues, decide to call you a MORON ! ......that would be egregious behaviour nowhere condoned in any Forum.

    I merely asked you if YOU would've liked being called a Solar MORON because of your obviously egregious behaviour.

    Instead of acknowledging your error in commonplace etiquette, and showing some class for what is hopefully a momentary lapse in good judgment you insult me for my correct behaviour by stating that I did not have : "the intellectual capacity beyond that of a seven year old."

    And, that in referring to your OBVIOUS faux pas, you found: " it amusing, kind of like watching a moth attack a flame. "

    Now, be a nice little old lady (and, I know that deep in your heart, you know you are), and apologize to me ......and let's have bygones be bygones."

The following is your (Solar) thoughtless presumptuous and LIEberrhoidal response:

"Your need to insult in an offhanded manner speaks volumes on your lack of character.
You are a guest in this house and as a guest, you know it is not wise to insult your host, correct?
Taking on the host in his own backyard is about as stupid a move one can possibly make.

So apologize, and we can  move on.

Do I make myself clear? "


Solar, as you can plainly see, you are using the despicable LIEberrhoidal tactic of playing the victim of obnoxious behaviour when it is YOUR contemptible behaviour towards YOUR guest SciFi, calling him a SciFool, simply because he disagrees with your religious and/or political beliefs ........and, it is YOUR pathetic reaction that is at fault when I am making a friendly effort to help you to understand your astounding HYPOCRITICAL INSULT when I politely asked you about how YOU would have felt if someone called YOU a Solar MORON simply because you disagreed with his religious or political beliefs ?

I suggest you see a therapist because your behaviour is embarrassing.

BTW, you needn't come back with an apology when you get cured: To err is human. To forgive......divine.

[Solar]

In order to refresh your memory about the incident that precipitated your declasse behaviour I printed the post (see below) that continues to expose your bad manners, and continues to expose my sadness that perhaps you do not deserve my faith that your upbringing is as anywhere close to you being a considerate little ole lady with a shred of decency to your guests on the Forum:

Quote from: Patriot on Today at 08:52:15 AM

" Please note: I (The Patriot) correctly chastised you for your obvious breach of etiquette in calling SciFi a SciFool because of your religious or political disagreements.

    I did NOT wake up one morning, and because of our past disagreements on several issues, decide to call you a MORON ! ......that would be egregious behaviour nowhere condoned in any Forum.

    I merely asked you if YOU would've liked being called a Solar MORON because of your obviously egregious behaviour.

    Instead of acknowledging your error in commonplace etiquette, and showing some class for what is hopefully a momentary lapse in good judgment you insult me for my correct behaviour by stating that I did not have : "the intellectual capacity beyond that of a seven year old."

    And, that in referring to your OBVIOUS faux pas, you found: " it amusing, kind of like watching a moth attack a flame. "

    Now, be a nice little old lady (and, I know that deep in your heart, you know you are), and apologize to me ......and let's have bygones be bygones."

The following is your (Solar) thoughtless presumptuous and LIEberrhoidal response:

"Your need to insult in an offhanded manner speaks volumes on your lack of character.
You are a guest in this house and as a guest, you know it is not wise to insult your host, correct?
Taking on the host in his own backyard is about as stupid a move one can possibly make.

So apologize, and we can  move on.

Do I make myself clear? "


Solar, as you can plainly see, you are using the despicable LIEberrhoidal tactic of playing the victim of obnoxious behaviour when it is YOUR contemptible behaviour towards YOUR guest SciFi, calling him a SciFool, simply because he disagrees with your religious and/or political beliefs ........and, it is YOUR pathetic reaction that is at fault when I am making a friendly effort to help you to understand your astounding HYPOCRITICAL INSULT when I politely asked you about how YOU would have felt if someone called YOU a Solar MORON simply because you disagreed with his religious or political beliefs ?

I suggest you see a therapist because your behaviour is embarrassing.

BTW, you needn't come back with an apology when you get cured: To err is human. To forgive......divine.

I see no reason to discuss an out of context post between myself and a poster that, not only no longer exists, but a comment that was not derogatory in the least, but you wouldn't know that, because you don't care, you are looking for kindling to start fires with.
Like I said, you are a guest in this house and should act accordingly.

You don't go to your neighbors home and look for reasons to create arguments with them in their own living room, and the same applies here.
One other point, this is a forum to Discuss, not ridicule others faith and you even quoted it, I told the moderator that this is a safe place to discuss Religion, but instigators like you love to antagonize people and belittle them in their faith, all because you have none.
This is the act of a jealous child, since you don't have any, you try and spoil the happiness of those that do.
Try learning about your spiritual side and not in a Religious contextual way, but rather find out who you are, your place in the Universe as an individual, and you just might understand the faith of others around you.

Playing hateful word games in this forum will not be tolerated, insulting others of their faith, will not be tolerated, you either discuss Religion, or get the Hell out of here and confine yourself to the Poli forum.

To the outside observer, you look like an ignorant, arrogant spoiled child raised by animals.
Use what little manners your supposed parents tried to pound into your thick skull and instead of insulting the other members, either learn why they have the faith they do, or venture out and find your own place in life.
But, your behavior will no longer be tolerated in this forum.

Do I make myself clear?

[kramarat]

You insulted a member of the Forum, SciFan, by calling him a SciFool simply because he disagreed with your religious and/or political views.

As a member of this forum, or any other forum, it is my duty to point out that this type of behaviour is obnoxious and declasse.

Therefore, I asked you how YOU would have felt if some one called you a Solar Moron because he didn't agree with your religion and/or politics.

Instead of behaving like a considerate little ole lady who had a temporary moment of bad judgement and apologizing......... we have the series of posts above where you are desperately trying to obfuscate the matter and are using the contemptible HYPOCRITICAL LIEberrhoidal tactic of being the pathetic victim and me the victimizer.

If that is your choice, and you don't mind appearing as the person you exposed yourself to be ..... then so be it.

There's no point beating a dead horse.

You're looking at one post. Scifi had earned that title. Across the entire forum, his entire reason for being here was to stoke arguments........................never providing links or proof to back up his claims. He was allowed to carry on his antics for a couple of months, before everyone had finally had enough. You look to be headed in the same direction.

Let's review:

"Has to do with not being stupid."

"By now you shouldn't be asking stupid questions."

"And, this will phuk your Christian mind up: What may be "good" for a certain human, may be "evil" for another."

" Or, howzabout  going completely bonkers and stating that "not A = A" : Virgin Mary (who ain't no virgin) ......is a Virgin) ?"

"Everyone is entitled to have meetings that don't hurt anyone ..... even if it's simply to wallow in religious nonsense."

"Religious BS is Religious BS ...... whether it is Islamic or Christian, or whatever, in nature."
...........................................

I could go on, but your entire theme, is that God doesn't exist and that religion, (particularly Christianity), is stupid BS. You came out of the gate slinging insults..............much like Scifi. And, much like Scifi, you have yet to make a point. It looks like an endless loop of ranting, to me. Is there a point?

[Solar]

You're looking at one post. Scifi had earned that title. Across the entire forum, his entire reason for being here was to stoke arguments........................never providing links or proof to back up his claims. He was allowed to carry on his antics for a couple of months, before everyone had finally had enough. You look to be headed in the same direction.

Let's review:

"Has to do with not being stupid."

"By now you shouldn't be asking stupid questions."

"And, this will phuk your Christian mind up: What may be "good" for a certain human, may be "evil" for another."

" Or, howzabout  going completely bonkers and stating that "not A = A" : Virgin Mary (who ain't no virgin) ......is a Virgin) ?"

"Everyone is entitled to have meetings that don't hurt anyone ..... even if it's simply to wallow in religious nonsense."

"Religious BS is Religious BS ...... whether it is Islamic or Christian, or whatever, in nature."
...........................................

I could go on, but your entire theme, is that God doesn't exist and that religion, (particularly Christianity), is stupid BS. You came out of the gate slinging insults..............much like Scifi. And, much like Scifi, you have yet to make a point. It looks like an endless loop of ranting, to me. Is there a point?

Scifool incarnate?
Makes me wonder if Scifool has returned.

I sent this idiot a warning, that insulting members in a place set aside for them as a safe haven to discuss Religion, was unacceptable and if he continued, would be booted.

The next move is his.