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Re: Teacher fired for giving student a bad grade.
« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2018, 09:49:43 AM »
An infant, child, youth (yoot) is to society what marble is to a stone carver, a field is to a farmer- one pretty much gets out of them what one invests in talent, sweat, perseverance.

Today's parents often come up to that rating kids love to level : they SUK. If the wee child has an absent father, siblings from several sperm donors, and an incompetent mother, we should not expect anything more than stone chips and weeds.

A lot of almost adults see 'mating' as a selfish act minus any consequences and if a potential child is the result, then that female often wants to slaughter it (public-funded abortion) so she will not have any responsibility in raising the kid. Child rearing is a 100%, 24/7 endeavor.. self-centered, hedonistic almost adults have not matured to that level... but NATURE says they can procreate.

Society has a failure to communicate with nature it seems.
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Re: Teacher fired for giving student a bad grade.
« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2018, 10:05:11 AM »
An infant, child, youth (yoot) is to society what marble is to a stone carver, a field is to a farmer- one pretty much gets out of them what one invests in talent, sweat, perseverance.

Today's parents often come up to that rating kids love to level : they SUK. If the wee child has an absent father, siblings from several sperm donors, and an incompetent mother, we should not expect anything more than stone chips and weeds.

A lot of almost adults see 'mating' as a selfish act minus any consequences and if a potential child is the result, then that female often wants to slaughter it (public-funded abortion) so she will not have any responsibility in raising the kid. Child rearing is a 100%, 24/7 endeavor.. self-centered, hedonistic almost adults have not matured to that level... but NATURE says they can procreate.

Society has a failure to communicate with nature it seems.
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Re: Teacher fired for giving student a bad grade.
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2018, 01:15:02 PM »
I'll be the bad guy. I hate today's youths. I also hate today's adults. But I do hate today's youths.

They say one bad apple spoils the bunch. But what about 300? Rotten to the core!

When I was young I believed in the peace protests,  read Abby Hoffman's books and wondered why people were against socialism.  I also was a Dem from the time I could vote until about 10 years ago.

I learned the foolishness of my youth as I think they will find that you are not entitled to anything and socialism be it the whole country or even a small group is probably not going to work out well.  Everyone is not ready to accept being equal to everyone else.  Useful idiots they are but I suspect that the majority of them will learn that what they think is common sense solutions is just BS or just wishful thinking.  I do not hate quite so easily.
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Re: Teacher fired for giving student a bad grade.
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2018, 02:12:44 AM »
Ya know, instead of asking so many questions,, you need to be doing a shit load of reading, start with the bible, then maybe Shakespeare and on to Samuel Clemons, you know , the classics.
All these metaphors will be contained within.
The one you inquire about goes back to the beginning of time, be it dating or meeting a new tribe, pretentious has always been a dead give away as phony and lying about oneself.
Being a Conservative is always about being true to yourself and not putting on an air or facade.

Well, let me ask you this.   If being true to one self is to be detrimental to oneself or to others then what?   What happens if being yourself leads to constant unemployment?   

No, the problem with this hackneyed and retarded advice is that it does not allow for any improvement. 

Yes, all of these people were wise but did they have all of the answers? 

 

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Re: Teacher fired for giving student a bad grade.
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2018, 05:17:40 AM »
Well, let me ask you this.   If being true to one self is to be detrimental to oneself or to others then what?   What happens if being yourself leads to constant unemployment?   

No, the problem with this hackneyed and retarded advice is that it does not allow for any improvement. 

Yes, all of these people were wise but did they have all of the answers? 

 
Again, instead of taking shit so literally and  over think everything, and then posting, and show the world just how clueless you really are, take a moment and look up the meaning of being yourself.
It means to be honest, lose the facade of pretentiousness, pretending to be someone you're not. That doesn't mean you're still allowed to wipe your feces on the wall.

In your case, if being yourself is getting you fired, alienating friends, then maybe you need to keep your mouth shut, and keep them questioning your sanity.
That is what is known as etiquette. It's not actually knowing how to act in public settings, but rather keeping ones yap shut, so as not to remove all doubt in whether or not they wanted to get to know you better.
Not saying anything, means you still have one more chance at a good first impression.
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Re: Teacher fired for giving student a bad grade.
« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2018, 05:43:04 AM »

Not saying anything, means you still have one more chance at a good first impression.
And that needs to be taught in school!  :thumbup:






Off the subject, but is deleting part of the quote in order to highlight the rest like I did above a no no?

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Re: Teacher fired for giving student a bad grade.
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2018, 05:56:23 AM »
And that needs to be taught in school!  :thumbup:






Off the subject, but is deleting part of the quote in order to highlight the rest like I did above a no no?
I agree, etiquette is a dying art that needs to make a comeback. Telling people to stop and think, apply filters, look in the mirror and say out loud what you feel before you say it in public and can never take it back.
Nah, parsing is fine in cases such as this.
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Re: Teacher fired for giving student a bad grade.
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2018, 09:30:28 AM »
 :smile: Solar, I don't really say much of anything if I'm with a group of people.  Even though, I've wanted to say to some folks this is so stupid. You people are talking about some of the most stupidest of crap.    I definitely can bite my tongue( I understand this figure of speech).  Saying nothing has saved me from getting my ass beat plenty of times.

I do like the phrase discretion is better part of valor.

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Re: Teacher fired for giving student a bad grade.
« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2018, 09:21:55 PM »
Again, instead of taking shit so literally and  over think everything, and then posting, and show the world just how clueless you really are, take a moment and look up the meaning of being yourself.
It means to be honest, lose the facade of pretentiousness, pretending to be someone you're not. That doesn't mean you're still allowed to wipe your feces on the wall.

Be honest and lose the facade of preteniousness:  If one's boss comes up to you as an employee and asks how he's doing as a manager then if I'm honest, with no political correctness, and no pretenousness then if I think he or she is horrible as a manager and I state "I think you are a horrible as a manager and here are the reasons why" how do you think it will go over?  Will I be considered an honest person or will I be considered a dick?  Let's say I butter the boss up and then lie even if I lie by omission and I tell them the good things I do think about them.  Then, am I not a liar and a dishonest person?  Did I not put a taint on my soul as Socrates calls it?  Damned if one does and damned if one doesn't.  These are the type of situations we on the autism spectrum have difficulty with and this is one reason out of many why the bulk of us end up on SSDI and remain unemployed.  For those like myself it is constantly heads we lose, tails we lose.

As for looking up the meaning, how do you know I haven't looked it up?  I find the old shakespearan and other middle age text difficult to read even more difficult then modern neurotypical english.  I've used cliff notes but the problem is the information I do glean out doesn't help with the questions I have and the issues I struggle with.  This information was written by NTs for NTs not for those on the autism spectrum who do take things very literally, who has problems with figures of speech, who has issues with abstract language, misses nonverbal language and facial expressions, misses the tone in peoples voice, etc, etc.  So, telling me to read things like the Bible that is chocked filled with metaphors which make parts of it difficult to read.   The Bible from what I do grasp doesn't do well with contradictions and conflicts in the lessons themselves.  Example:  A child is expected to honor their mom and dad.   Well, what if the dad is a pedophile?  If Jesus is the head of the husband and the husband is expected to be the head of the household and the wife has authority over the children then God we have a problem.  What if hubby goes against what Jesus says or both parents go against what Jesus says?   Like, what if the parents encourage their kids to steal.  And, there are cases like this.    What if a parent telling a child to do something would put the child in danger?  Is the child expected to still obey?  The Bible is to absolutist and I don't see Jesus and God (is Jesus the son of God or is he God) coming down to clear things up any time soon since not everyone in the world seems to agree on what everything in the Bible seems to say.


In your case, if being yourself is getting you fired, alienating friends, then maybe you need to keep your mouth shut, and keep them questioning your sanity.

This works a lot of times but then am I going to be considered standoffish?   Damned if you do and damned if you don't.  Heads you lose, tails you lose.
That is what is known as etiquette. It's not actually knowing how to act in public settings, but rather keeping ones yap shut, so as not to remove all doubt in whether or not they wanted to get to know you better.

Does it work in all cases?  Am I going to be considered standoffish or an ass if I do this in some situations?  I've been told the same messages you have like silence is golden and the advice about the fool.  Sometimes, silence is not golden.   

Look at #5 in cracked.  http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-youre-accidentally-making-everyone-hate-you/
Not saying anything, means you still have one more chance at a good first impression.

You and others in the world are trying to present the moral, ethical and social code as simple when it really is not.  Example:  The moral code and "natural law" says murder is wrong.  Yet, it never explains why it is wrong.  You believe in what I will call the collective theory of life in that we created life here because in the spiritual realm we were bored.  T-Hunt and others believe in a more traditional approach.  They believe in a heaven and hell, believe we're all sinners meaning no one can obey everything God says 100% of the time, we need a savior who washes away our sins by believing in him and accepting him as our lord and savior.  If you're correct Solar then by "murdering" said person didn't I just simply end his time here in "life" and send him back to the starting point which was the collective.  Let's say T-Hunt is right and traditional Christanity is right.  Supposedly, we choose by belief and not our actions whether we go to heaven or hell.   Under T-Hunt and traditional Christanity's view if the person one murders chose correctly in life then all I did was send them to heaven. If they chose incorrectly then I sent them to hell. I simply expedited the "method of transportation."  Why is murder wrong?  If we end up back in the collective or we choose heaven and hell based upon our beliefs then natural law, rights, morality, goodness and evil, and rights seem arbitrary and meaningless.   Why does it matter in the end?  How does the intellectual rumination of all of these wise folks like the founding fathers really mean anything in the end?

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Re: Teacher fired for giving student a bad grade.
« Reply #54 on: October 14, 2018, 07:39:32 AM »
Be honest and lose the facade of preteniousness:  If one's boss comes up to you as an employee and asks how he's doing as a manager then if I'm honest, with no political correctness, and no pretenousness then if I think he or she is horrible as a manager and I state "I think you are a horrible as a manager and here are the reasons why" how do you think it will go over?  Will I be considered an honest person or will I be considered a dick?  Let's say I butter the boss up and then lie even if I lie by omission and I tell them the good things I do think about them.  Then, am I not a liar and a dishonest person?  Did I not put a taint on my soul as Socrates calls it?  Damned if one does and damned if one doesn't.  These are the type of situations we on the autism spectrum have difficulty with and this is one reason out of many why the bulk of us end up on SSDI and remain unemployed.  For those like myself it is constantly heads we lose, tails we lose.

As for looking up the meaning, how do you know I haven't looked it up?  I find the old shakespearan and other middle age text difficult to read even more difficult then modern neurotypical english.  I've used cliff notes but the problem is the information I do glean out doesn't help with the questions I have and the issues I struggle with.  This information was written by NTs for NTs not for those on the autism spectrum who do take things very literally, who has problems with figures of speech, who has issues with abstract language, misses nonverbal language and facial expressions, misses the tone in peoples voice, etc, etc.  So, telling me to read things like the Bible that is chocked filled with metaphors which make parts of it difficult to read.   The Bible from what I do grasp doesn't do well with contradictions and conflicts in the lessons themselves.  Example:  A child is expected to honor their mom and dad.   Well, what if the dad is a pedophile?  If Jesus is the head of the husband and the husband is expected to be the head of the household and the wife has authority over the children then God we have a problem.  What if hubby goes against what Jesus says or both parents go against what Jesus says?   Like, what if the parents encourage their kids to steal.  And, there are cases like this.    What if a parent telling a child to do something would put the child in danger?  Is the child expected to still obey?  The Bible is to absolutist and I don't see Jesus and God (is Jesus the son of God or is he God) coming down to clear things up any time soon since not everyone in the world seems to agree on what everything in the Bible seems to say.
Now you know why I don't follow any given religion. I do not believe in a Hell or Heaven.
Think about it, we come here a blank slate, the people that raise us instill a sense for survival, and if you live in a total slum, you're taught to steal and possibly kill for your survival.
This is the life you were given, you were not taught remorse, so how can one atone for sins they never knew they committed?
I do believe one can grow as an individual and rise above evil, even when they've been raised differently, as this is part off our development as individuals to discover and develop.

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This works a lot of times but then am I going to be considered standoffish?   Damned if you do and damned if you don't.  Heads you lose, tails you lose.
Does it work in all cases?  Am I going to be considered standoffish or an ass if I do this in some situations?  I've been told the same messages you have like silence is golden and the advice about the fool.  Sometimes, silence is not golden.   

Look at #5 in cracked.  http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-youre-accidentally-making-everyone-hate-you/
Not saying anything, means you still have one more chance at a good first impression.

You and others in the world are trying to present the moral, ethical and social code as simple when it really is not.  Example:  The moral code and "natural law" says murder is wrong.  Yet, it never explains why it is wrong.  You believe in what I will call the collective theory of life in that we created life here because in the spiritual realm we were bored.  T-Hunt and others believe in a more traditional approach.  They believe in a heaven and hell, believe we're all sinners meaning no one can obey everything God says 100% of the time, we need a savior who washes away our sins by believing in him and accepting him as our lord and savior.  If you're correct Solar then by "murdering" said person didn't I just simply end his time here in "life" and send him back to the starting point which was the collective.  Let's say T-Hunt is right and traditional Christanity is right.  Supposedly, we choose by belief and not our actions whether we go to heaven or hell.   Under T-Hunt and traditional Christanity's view if the person one murders chose correctly in life then all I did was send them to heaven. If they chose incorrectly then I sent them to hell. I simply expedited the "method of transportation."  Why is murder wrong?  If we end up back in the collective or we choose heaven and hell based upon our beliefs then natural law, rights, morality, goodness and evil, and rights seem arbitrary and meaningless.   Why does it matter in the end?  How does the intellectual rumination of all of these wise folks like the founding fathers really mean anything in the end?
I don't think you understand the meaning of murder. Is war murder, is taking a life of another to save someone murder?
But to take a life for no reason? This is what society deems as murder, and if we were to follow the "eye for an eye" rule, this individual sacrificed his right to his own life.
Society has always tried to find peace in a chaotic world, and the threat of death has always been one way of keeping violence at a minimum.

When I speak of the Bible, I refer to the First Testament, like many of the era, the rewriting of the bible was considered blasphemous to the word of God. Battles were fought over it.
The bible is a history book with proverbs, story's designed in a metaphorical manner so even the most common of man can grasp with a moral overtone and understanding of Natural law.
Before Jesus came along, God apparently stated quite clearly, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me", meaning you worship and follow his word only, which raises the question, why would God say one thing, then break his trust with us by going back on his word, was King James wrong for rewriting the Bible and claiming we worship Jesus as a intermediary, much like the Catholic Church does in the hierarchical approach for blessings?

I don't know, so I bypass it all and speak directly to God, whom not once steered me wrong, for I have led a blessed life, and if I were a sinner for not believing one religion over another, he would have made it quite clear early on and I wouldn't have been able to retire in my 40s in one of the most beautiful and serene places on earth.
All I have achieved in life came with the blessing of God, I listened to God, not people as I traveled and stumbled through life, people were my own worst enemy, they would have strayed me off the path God had for me, though he did place 'angels' (for a lack of better descriptive) in my path to help me as well.
God will tell you who to listen to, trust his guidance.

Doing what you believe is right, is all you can do, this will keep your spirit intact, regret is an enemy of the soul, anyway, that's what I believe, so don't do anything you might regret, something you know for a fact to be wrong. Your soul will suffer as will you all because you knew it was wrong.

Hey, I'll admit, I could be wrong on all of this, but I don't believe God lied to me when he said I had things to do and returned me to earth, because looking back at events in my life since that one particular day, have proven to me I was doing God's work.

We all have a purpose, so find yours, talk to God and ask for guidance, even if you think it's a joke, try it and see what path you're set upon.
To not listen to God, to follow your own narrow path in life, means you will remain stuck in a rut and a coward to living life.
Listen to God and don't be afraid.
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