Stomp On Jesus

Started by Solar, March 26, 2013, 02:57:49 PM

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Quote from: American on March 30, 2013, 01:55:17 PM
I would love to be assigned to the discipline board panel that hears this case. When I was an undergrad, I only ever got to serve on panels that heard the "typical" charges (e.g., drug possession, underage drinking, etc.).

I would make the professor look like the far-left unprofessional fool that he is. First question: "Professor, explain to those of us who lack your supreme enlightenment and intelligence how stomping on pieces of paper with 'Jesus' written on them is supposed to promote critical thinking." Second Question: "Would stomping on pieces of paper with 'Mohammad' inspire critical thinking, and, if so, why didn't you have your students stomp on Mohammad?" Third question: "Do you understand how some people think this is a foolish and extremely offensive activity that resembles grade school playground shenanigans rather than the type of in class instruction one would expect to occur in a college classroom?"

Simple questions do not fit the lib mold. It does not allow them to divert.
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Solar

The kid said exactly what I've been saying, it was an indoctrination, not one of opening discussion.

State University System spokeswoman Kim Wilmath said officials would work closely with FAU in preparing a response to the governor's concerns.

"The State University System prides itself not only on its commitment to academic freedom, but at the same time, it's awesome responsibility to the people it serves," she said in a written statement. "We are gratified to know that FAU has apologized for any offense the exercise has caused and has pledged never to use this exercise again. Clearly, there were things the university could have done differently by its own acknowledgement."
"Anytime you stomp on something it shows that you believe that something has no value. So if you were to stomp on the word Jesus, it says that the word has no value," said Rotella.

Rotella said he voiced his concerns to his teacher's supervisor and later learned he was suspended from the class.

The governor didn't seem satisfied with the apology, saying it was "in many ways inconsequential to the larger issue of a professor's poor judgment."

"The professor's lesson was offensive, and even intolerant, to Christians and those of all faiths who deserve to be respected as Americans entitled to religious freedom," Scott said in his letter. "Our public higher educational institutions are designed to shape the minds of Florida's future leaders. We should provide educational leadership that is respectful of religious freedom of all people."
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/29/fau-professor-in-jesus-stomping-incident-placed-on-administrative-leave/2/
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Quote from: Solar on March 31, 2013, 05:47:42 AM
The kid said exactly what I've been saying, it was an indoctrination, not one of opening discussion.

State University System spokeswoman Kim Wilmath said officials would work closely with FAU in preparing a response to the governor's concerns.

"The State University System prides itself not only on its commitment to academic freedom, but at the same time, it's awesome responsibility to the people it serves," she said in a written statement. "We are gratified to know that FAU has apologized for any offense the exercise has caused and has pledged never to use this exercise again. Clearly, there were things the university could have done differently by its own acknowledgement."
"Anytime you stomp on something it shows that you believe that something has no value. So if you were to stomp on the word Jesus, it says that the word has no value," said Rotella.

Rotella said he voiced his concerns to his teacher's supervisor and later learned he was suspended from the class.

The governor didn't seem satisfied with the apology, saying it was "in many ways inconsequential to the larger issue of a professor's poor judgment."

"The professor's lesson was offensive, and even intolerant, to Christians and those of all faiths who deserve to be respected as Americans entitled to religious freedom," Scott said in his letter. "Our public higher educational institutions are designed to shape the minds of Florida's future leaders. We should provide educational leadership that is respectful of religious freedom of all people."
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/29/fau-professor-in-jesus-stomping-incident-placed-on-administrative-leave/2/

So the teacher is sitting home collecting full pay while on administrative leave? :blink:

That's completely unacceptable. They need to be fired and not allowed to return to any state university.

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on March 31, 2013, 07:10:05 AM
So the teacher is sitting home collecting full pay while on administrative leave? :blink:

That's completely unacceptable. They need to be fired and not allowed to return to any state university.
Doesn't that just piss ya off?
You know it's because of her position in the Dim party, that's keeping her employed.
Now had she said write gay on a piece of paper and stomp on it, she would have been kicked out of the party and lost her job plus tenure.
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Quote from: Solar on March 31, 2013, 07:16:03 AM
Doesn't that just piss ya off?
You know it's because of her position in the Dim party, that's keeping her employed.
Now had she said write gay on a piece of paper and stomp on it, she would have been kicked out of the party and lost her job plus tenure.

I know I keep repeating myself, but damn I'm tired of these people. :mad:

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on March 31, 2013, 08:58:12 AM
I know I keep repeating myself, but damn I'm tired of these people. :mad:
As much as I hate giving these scum their 15 minutes of fame, a lesson learned recently, is to not expose them is a mistake, because they quietly worked in the background destroying young minds.
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I would think the university officials are on pins and needles right now. They are so used to doing this kind of stuff and nobody calls them on it. Now, they have been exposed and the gov is on their asses. He does control the purse strings and these higher education types depend on government funds to fund their excesses.
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kramarat

Quote from: Solar on March 31, 2013, 09:37:50 AM
As much as I hate giving these scum their 15 minutes of fame, a lesson learned recently, is to not expose them is a mistake, because they quietly worked in the background destroying young minds.

Exposing it, is what I do. I've been defriended on FB because of it, and banned for several months on CR4 because of it. :biggrin:

I'm not stopping...as long as live.

I like to think that at some point, people will just be embarrassed to be associated with this hate filled garbage. That's all it is; hate filled, intolerant nonsense. The opposite of the tea party types.

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Quote from: Solar on March 31, 2013, 05:47:42 AM
"Anytime you stomp on something it shows that you believe that something has no value. So if you were to stomp on the word Jesus, it says that the word has no value," said Rotella.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/29/fau-professor-in-jesus-stomping-incident-placed-on-administrative-leave/2/


I for one say.  What there dancing around is that there saying that Jesus, has no "value".   The officials can color it how they like with BS. (PC/phrases)  It's not just the word Jesus they were asking for them to stomp on.  But then that's just my way of thinking. 

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Quote from: Solar on March 31, 2013, 09:37:50 AM
As much as I hate giving these scum their 15 minutes of fame, a lesson learned recently, is to not expose them is a mistake, because they quietly worked in the background destroying young minds.

I know a lot of conservatives think that crazy leftist indoctrination happens frequently in college classrooms but that was not my experience in college. And no, I didn't go to Hillsdale or some other conservative college.

TboneAgain

Quote from: American on April 04, 2013, 09:00:19 PM
I know a lot of conservatives think that crazy leftist indoctrination happens frequently in college classrooms but that was not my experience in college. And no, I didn't go to Hillsdale or some other conservative college.

It was my experience in college -- a small-town community college -- and more especially in my high school classes.

I went to high school in a single-school city in southwestern Ohio (trying not to say Miamisburg) and some of the teachers in the late 1960s and early 1970s would not have been let out of my mother's house in the morning (had they slept there the night before) because their personal hygiene was so bad. They  talked the college talk, but they looked like hippies and tramps. They actively encouraged misbehavior as "alternative thinking" and openly and loudly campaigned for every school levy and liberal ballot issue there was. Reading assignments were studies in leftist thinking -- 1984, Catcher In The Rye, When The Legends Die, and so on. I will always remember the histrionic disappointment expressed by my eighth-grade (!!) English teacher when he had to announce that our field trip to see Romeo and Juliet at a downtown theater had been quashed by one unenlightened parent who didn't think her 12-year-old was ready to see Olivia Hussey's boobs. (We saw Oliver! instead.) The word got out somehow as to who the poor kid was whose mom didn't want her to get a cinematic introduction to sex, and we were invited to ridicule the kid forever.

Lib/progs don't take names, they kick ass. Time we started doing the same.
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Maybe things were different 40 years ago. I can only speak from personal experience. I just think that conservatives tend to exaggerate the leftist indoctrination on college campuses. I could be wrong.

TboneAgain

Quote from: American on April 04, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
Maybe things were different 40 years ago. I can only speak from personal experience. I just think that conservatives tend to exaggerate the leftist indoctrination on college campuses. I could be wrong.

The leftist indoctrination extends far beyond college campuses. It is the norm throughout public school systems at every level, and has been for quite some time. You appear to be a product of a leftist education, based on your postings.

If you would, please, can you tell me how many times you encountered a right-leaning or conservative instructor in your college career?
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Solar

Quote from: American on April 04, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
Maybe things were different 40 years ago. I can only speak from personal experience. I just think that conservatives tend to exaggerate the leftist indoctrination on college campuses. I could be wrong.
Things are far worse today, me thinks one can't see the forest for the trees.
Look at the history of the public school system, it was developed by a socialist, later the removal of God.
Sometimes it's hard to see the changes on the block you grow up in, till you return 30 years later, school is the same, a system of indoctrination, PC if you will.
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Quote from: American on April 04, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
Maybe things were different 40 years ago. I can only speak from personal experience. I just think that conservatives tend to exaggerate the leftist indoctrination on college campuses. I could be wrong.

My first two years of college were at a Christian college, and there was only a slight left bent, mostly in the classes considered "transferable generals".  However my last two years were at the UofM, Minneapolis, and every single class I took, including French, was liberal. 

My high school was unbearabley, unabashedly liberal.  My history and civics teachers would openly say that Republicans never did anything worthwhile (it might have been why I spent so much time studying political cartoons).  In tenth grade English, my teacher believed in polyamory and every book we read was about sex.  We had to do oral reports in her class, I found out real quick that I better stick to fluff topics, if I planned on passing.  My psych teacher was anti-gun and attacked me in class for saying that I believed we should be able to protect ourselves in our homes.  On and on.

While my experience may not be universal, it seems to be roughly the same as my high school cohorts who went to other universities.