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Stomp On Jesus
« on: March 26, 2013, 02:57:49 PM »
And now you know why we see the left as the enemy!

The “Notice of Charges” against Ryan Rotela is contrary to a statement the university released late Friday night saying no one had been disciplined as a result of the classroom activity.

“We can confirm that no student has been expelled, suspended or disciplined by the university as a result of any activity that took place during this class,” the university said in a prepared statement.

However, according to a letter written by Associate Dean Rozalia Williams, Rotela is facing a litany of charges – including an alleged violation of the student code of conduct, acts of verbal, written or physical abuse, threats, intimidation, harassment, coercion or other conduct which threaten the health, safety or welfare of any person.”

“In the interim, you may not attend class or contact any of the students involved in this matter – verbally or electronically – or by any other means,” Williams wrote to Rotela. “Please be advised that a Student Affairs hold may be placed on your records until final disposition of the complaint.”

Hiram Sasser, director of litigation at the Liberty Institute, told Fox News the university’s behavior is “outlandish” and called their press release “inaccurate.”

“We believe the university punished him in retaliation for him exposing the class assignment to the public,” Sasser said. “Sadly, it is a testimony to the indoctrination that some of the public schools and universities are engaging in – to demonize anything that was valuable in the culture.”

The Liberty Institute wants Rotela reinstated with full credit for the course – along with an apology.

“He’s being punished because he told the professor to never do the assignment again because it’s offensive and that he was going to complain to the university,” he said.

Rotela, a devout Mormon, ran afoul of the university after he refused to participate in a classroom assignment that involved writing the name “Jesus” on a piece of paper – and then stomping on it.

The university initially defended the Christ-bashing lesson which is included textbook titled, “Intercultural Communication: A Contextual Approach, 5th Edition.”

Fox News obtained a synopsis of the lesson taught by Deandre Poole, who also happens to be vice chair of the Palm Beach County Democratic Party.

“Have the students write the name JESUS in big letters on a piece of paper,” the lesson reads. “Ask the students to stand up and put the paper on the floor in front of them with the name facing up. Ask the students to think about it for a moment. After a brief period of silence instruct them to step on the paper. Most will hesitate. Ask why they can’t step on the paper. Discuss the importance of symbols in culture.”

The university issued an apology late Friday after a national uproar and said the exercise “will not be used again.”

Rotela told Fox News he was baffled by the university’s latest statement.

“The university has a huge problem with integrity,” he said. “They are tripping over their own words.”

The “Notice of Charges” accused the student of using threatening language. The school did not return calls seeking clarification. Rotela’s attorney said he believes the perceived threat came when Rotela told the teacher “don’t do that again” – in reference to stomping on the paper. The student also told the instructor, “You’ll be hearing from me.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/university-files-charges-against-student-who-refused-to-stomp-on-jesus.html
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Re: Stomp On Jesus
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2013, 03:31:06 AM »
Can you imagine if they were asked to write "Allah" or "Muhammed" on that piece of paper? Of course they would never ask the student to do such as thing as even though they believe in postmodernist relativism some beliefs are more equal than others  :laugh:

This assignment seems like something a middleschool teacher would do, not really university material. I guess its part of dumbing down educational system and another tribute too how disposable or ludicrious the social sciences are. Calling it science is a insult in itself. I have a bachelor degree in political science and it has only prevented me from getting work.

I had communist teachers growing up and they always tried to ridicule western values, I don't know how we conservatives can take back the educational system when so many of us don't want to go into the teaching profession.

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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2013, 06:39:46 AM »
Can you imagine if they were asked to write "Allah" or "Muhammed" on that piece of paper? Of course they would never ask the student to do such as thing as even though they believe in postmodernist relativism some beliefs are more equal than others  :laugh:

This assignment seems like something a middleschool teacher would do, not really university material. I guess its part of dumbing down educational system and another tribute too how disposable or ludicrious the social sciences are. Calling it science is a insult in itself. I have a bachelor degree in political science and it has only prevented me from getting work.

I had communist teachers growing up and they always tried to ridicule western values, I don't know how we conservatives can take back the educational system when so many of us don't want to go into the teaching profession.
Amazing isn't it? To you and I and every thinking person viewing this, can see it's nothing more than indoctrination, a way of breaking down family morality, a way to get kids to see that protesting core values should not be looked down upon, but seen as a right, a freedom of expression.

The left/Dims are pure evil where American culture is concerned.
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2013, 08:22:21 AM »
Where is the outcry to fire the teacher for lack of tolerance? Oh that's right, tolerance is to only apply to non-leftists.
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2013, 09:06:21 AM »
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/fla-governor-calls-for-investigation-of-stomp-jesus-university.html

I just found this article concerning the fallout from this nonsense. Good for Gov. Scott not letting the university just skate on this deal. I am not one that favors politicians being involved with the education system, but sometimes, more times than we would like, educators go over the line and they need to be called on it. I am not surprised the teacher is an activist dem either.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2013, 09:08:48 AM »
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/fla-governor-calls-for-investigation-of-stomp-jesus-university.html

I just found this article concerning the fallout from this nonsense. Good for Gov. Scott not letting the university just skate on this deal. I am not one that favors politicians being involved with the education system, but sometimes, more times than we would like, educators go over the line and they need to be called on it. I am not surprised the teacher is an activist dem either.
Problem is, our entire education is leftist indoctrination, in turn making it political.
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Re: Stomp On Jesus
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2013, 11:12:54 AM »
This whole story bothers me, every aspect of it.  It bothers me that only one person spoke against this.  It bothers me that the teacher would think this was a good idea.  It bothers me that the "exercise" was supposedly to create dialog about why it might be difficult for some students to do it, but then when one DID take issue with doing it, instead of creating dialog, he was asked to leave class, then punished, proving in my mind that this was NOT about creating a dialog.  It bothers me that the university told the student not to tell anyone about the situation, they knew it was shameful and would create the backlash that it did, but they did it anyway. 




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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2013, 11:20:59 AM »
This whole story bothers me, every aspect of it.  It bothers me that only one person spoke against this.  It bothers me that the teacher would think this was a good idea.  It bothers me that the "exercise" was supposedly to create dialog about why it might be difficult for some students to do it, but then when one DID take issue with doing it, instead of creating dialog, he was asked to leave class, then punished, proving in my mind that this was NOT about creating a dialog.  It bothers me that the university told the student not to tell anyone about the situation, they knew it was shameful and would create the backlash that it did, but they did it anyway.
Exactly Kari, he exposed their agenda.
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2013, 12:41:54 PM »
This whole story bothers me, every aspect of it.  It bothers me that only one person spoke against this.  It bothers me that the teacher would think this was a good idea.  It bothers me that the "exercise" was supposedly to create dialog about why it might be difficult for some students to do it, but then when one DID take issue with doing it, instead of creating dialog, he was asked to leave class, then punished, proving in my mind that this was NOT about creating a dialog.  It bothers me that the university told the student not to tell anyone about the situation, they knew it was shameful and would create the backlash that it did, but they did it anyway.

"It bothers me that the teacher would think this was a good idea."

The teacher is lib, dem activist.  Doesn't that explain a lot about "why"?
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2013, 01:26:33 PM »
"It bothers me that the teacher would think this was a good idea."

The teacher is lib, dem activist.  Doesn't that explain a lot about "why"?

It may explain why, but it bothers me none the less.

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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2013, 01:32:41 PM »
It may explain why, but it bothers me none the less.

The word "Jesus" represented everything traditional, that they hate. Once those things are completely stomped out, they offer us "Detroit" as a replacement. :blink:

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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2013, 04:13:12 PM »


This assignment seems like something a middleschool teacher would do, not really university material.

No, this is exactly what the universities do. It's the SAME sickness that drives the homosexual "marriage" issue. It's all about BREAKING DOWN tradition and replacing it with Leftist/Humanist nonsense.

Does anyone know what the legal ramifications would be if a teacher forced students to do this with MudHasmMud?  I KNOW he'd be fired, but beyond that?  Hate crime charges?  Islam is a religion/political belief that has SPECIAL rights in this country even while they pretend that they are oppressed here  :lol: Try being a Christian in Egypt now that Obama got his wish installing Islamic terrorists in that country. Syria will be next.

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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2013, 05:02:23 AM »
Yeah, the assignment was to reflect over the sensitive or meaning of symbols in society yet the class avoids the most sensitive controversial symbols in society today which people are willing to kill others for desecrating the muslim symbols.  :rolleyes:

This reminds me of the south park episode. Trey Paker and Matt Stone intentionally made an episode to see the reactions it would get in the media and they basicly showed two scenarios
(1) Jesus And George Bush defecating on each other
(2) Santa in a bear costume pretending to be Muhammed

No christian organization and no conservative organization cared for the blasphemy of Jesus or the disrespect of George Bush. There were no churches that demanded Trey Parker and Matt Stone be punished. But they recieved death threats from muslim group for the second scenario and the liberal media attacked them for it. Kind of interesting experiment and it shows you who the totalitarians are.


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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2013, 05:09:26 AM »
Yeah, the assignment was to reflect over the sensitive or meaning of symbols in society yet the class avoids the most sensitive controversial symbols in society today which people are willing to kill others for desecrating the muslim symbols.  :rolleyes:

This reminds me of the south park episode. Trey Paker and Matt Stone intentionally made an episode to see the reactions it would get in the media and they basicly showed two scenarios
(1) Jesus And George Bush defecating on each other
(2) Santa in a bear costume pretending to be Muhammed

No christian organization and no conservative organization cared for the blasphemy of Jesus or the disrespect of George Bush. There were no churches that demanded Trey Parker and Matt Stone be punished. But they recieved death threats from muslim group for the second scenario and the liberal media attacked them for it. Kind of interesting experiment and it shows you who the totalitarians are.

Not to mention the hypocrisy of the left when it comes to tolerance.
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2013, 05:20:26 PM »
First, let me say that I don't support this kind of thing in our schools...although I'm still not sure what the "lesson" was supposed to be. The articles I've read have focused on the outrage over the incident. Does any know more details about what happened or what the students were supposed to be getting out of this? Did they do this with other religions as well?

Also, being someone that doesn't fall into the Left/Right spectrum, I don't think we should be so eager to label things as Left vs Right. What do we know about the teacher outside of this incident? Nothing I've seen says anything about his political ideology.

As for the student being disciplined, we don't know why he is in trouble and the only statement we have says it isn't because of anything that happened during that class. So again, I don't think we should be jumping to conclusions. I'm not saying that something fishy isn't going on, because this certainly 'smells', but we shouldn't make assumptions based on limited information.

 

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