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Re: Since When...
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2013, 05:23:39 PM »
Do you personally know any atheists who aren't militant?  I don't. Penn Jillette is one, but everyone else seems to push their "faith" harder than any Christian or Muslim--yet they still deny that it's a religion!

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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2013, 07:59:07 PM »
Do you personally know any atheists who aren't militant?   I don't. Penn Jillette is one, but everyone else seems to push their "faith" harder than any Christian or Muslim--yet they still deny that it's a religion!

I personally know 5 who aren't millitant.  If you did not know them for 10 to 15 years you would not even know there were. 

One even build a church for his wife in a small town.  On the condition it was for the whole community use.  He paid for the land and for the church to be build, that way no one could control it's use.
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2013, 07:52:35 AM »
Do you personally know any atheists who aren't militant?  I don't. Penn Jillette is one, but everyone else seems to push their "faith" harder than any Christian or Muslim--yet they still deny that it's a religion!
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2013, 06:03:42 PM »
I personally know 5 who aren't millitant.  If you did not know them for 10 to 15 years you would not even know there were. 

One even build a church for his wife in a small town.  On the condition it was for the whole community use.  He paid for the land and for the church to be build, that way no one could control it's use.

Glad to hear there are a few good ones. I guess the fact that they don't push their "faith" is why you don't know about their "faith"

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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2013, 01:47:24 PM »
Since when do we have a Religion Forum? :huh:

I thought that topic was verboten here?

It was just a plan to get MFA to post more...
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2013, 07:17:00 PM »
It was just a plan to get MFA to post more...

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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2013, 07:27:15 PM »
"Many people want the government to protect the consumer. A much more urgent problem is to protect the consumer from the government."  -Milton Friedman

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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2013, 08:02:35 PM »
:thumbsup: It worked!

Nice having you around MFA.    :thumbup:
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2013, 09:02:04 PM »
If I'm not mistaken, Darth?

Atheist is what I call myself, but it is a little more complex than that.

If you've ever read the novelization of the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey, by Arthur C. Clarke, there is a scene where the monolith first appears in the ape-men's camp. At first, they are scared, next they are curious. Once they have satisfied their curiosity, Clarke has this to say about the leader of the group, Moonwatcher, "It (the monolith) couldn't eat him, and he couldn't eat it, so he promptly forgot about it." 

That is about as close as I can get to my religious philosophy without running the risk of boring you all to tears! LOL

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Re: Since When...
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2013, 09:21:11 PM »
Do you personally know any atheists who aren't militant?  I don't. Penn Jillette is one, but everyone else seems to push their "faith" harder than any Christian or Muslim--yet they still deny that it's a religion!

I've been one for over the last 55 years, having been raised a Lutheran for 17 years. But I distinguish between Atheist and atheist.

For the atheist, it's a matter of choice, while the Atheist feels a need to proselytize. But, as an atheist, I don't. A person should be free to choose whatever religion to follow, or none at all.

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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2013, 05:55:08 AM »
I've been one for over the last 55 years, having been raised a Lutheran for 17 years. But I distinguish between Atheist and atheist.

For the atheist, it's a matter of choice, while the Atheist feels a need to proselytize. But, as an atheist, I don't. A person should be free to choose whatever religion to follow, or none at all.

Agreed. I don't think I've met a militant athiest..........although I guess they exist.

I'm perplexed by the people that actually take time out of their lives to file formal complaints, about the presence of a cross or a manger scene in the town square, or on public property. I don't see how those things can be construed as the government establishment of religion. :confused:

By this line of thinking, all crosses should be removed from Arlington National Cemetary. I think that it could almost constitute the government establishment of non-religion. A dangerous path, in my opinion.

I've never felt threatened or scared by the presence of a Manorah, or any other religious object................regardless of the religion.

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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2013, 05:59:35 AM »
Agreed. I don't think I've met a militant athiest..........although I guess they exist.

I'm perplexed by the people that actually take time out of their lives to file formal complaints, about the presence of a cross or a manger scene in the town square, or on public property. I don't see how those things can be construed as the government establishment of religion. :confused:

By this line of thinking, all crosses should be removed from Arlington National Cemetary. I think that it could almost constitute the government establishment of non-religion. A dangerous path, in my opinion.

I've never felt threatened or scared by the presence of a Manorah, or any other religious object................regardless of the religion.

The people who do these kind of things are what is commonly known as Attention Whores.

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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2013, 09:25:59 AM »
Much ado about nothing.
Appears that the cross goes back long before Christ.

According to the book Babylon Mystery Religion, the cross originated among the ancient Babylonians of Chaldea. From there, it spread to ancient China, India, Mexico, parts of Africa and other places, centuries before Christianity was born.

Notice: “Ages ago in Italy, before the people knew anything of the arts of civilization, they believed in the cross as a religious symbol. It was regarded as a protector and was placed upon tombs. In 46 B.C., Roman coins show Jupiter holding a long scepter terminating in a cross. The Vestal Virgins of pagan Rome wore the cross suspended from their necklaces, as the nuns of the Roman Catholic church do now”
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Re: Since When...
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2013, 10:39:47 AM »
The people who do these kind of things are what is commonly known as Attention Whores.


Absolutely! :mad:

I disagree that it's much ado about nothing though.

http://aclj.org/american-heritage/jay-sekulow-defend-ground-zero-cross-atheist-assault

They keep pushing forward. If they win these lawsuits, Arlington would qualify for removal of crosses.

 

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