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September 27th
« on: September 05, 2016, 09:47:15 AM »
I am a Bible Believing, Fundamental, Born-Again, Christian - and I read or listen to the New Testament about 30-40 times annually.  I am NOT Jesus Christ, He is my Lord, and I am an imperfect follower of Him.  OK, we got that out-of-the-way.

WHAT is going to happen September 27?

Here's what a few searches pull up.

It's United Nations World Tourism Day.
http://wtd.unwto.org/en

Graham Nash is playing in Northhampton, MA - Yup, you can see a living fossil, moving, breathing and gasping as he belts out a few numbers with about 1/2 his vocal range... and brag about it to your kids afterwards.
http://www.bigstub.com/graham-nash-tickets.aspx?event_id=2872240

He's actually still alive... and David Crosby has finally started to lose a little weight, but from this video, "Bus Stop", with Allan Clarke, Nash is just sort of 'hanging out' on stage.  Drugs can do that to you.  Kinda painful to watch / listen.


Sorry, off subject - here's Nash & Clarke singing, "The Very Last Day" - they had great voices once.


Harvest moon, Blood moon?
http://www.space.com/30480-rare-super-harvest-blood-moon-to-shine-on-september-27-2015-video.html
Oh, that's LAST year... we had plenty of End-Of-The-World predictions. 

Well, there MUST be some religious aspect to this - the Jewish Calendar!
http://www.chabad.org/calendar/view/month_cdo/jewish/Month-View.htm
It's a Tuesday.  OMG!!!  Kind of a let down, the People of God just aren't cashing in on it like the modern day Profits, Prophets, Glen Beck advertizers are.  The Mayan Calendar was destined to 'run out' sooner or later - like God needed a Mayan Calendar to plan end-time events, financial collapses, or Lunar cycles.

What good is a KNOWN Lunar event to use/claim is a real Prophetic or Miraculous event?
Chew on that one, and remember, Jesus healed on the Sabbath, a day or rest, when the Rabbis said He wasn't suppose to heal - and He did it often...  When does He say He'd return?  He does not.

Maybe we'll get nailed by some Meteor...?  Like one slips through the Lord's fingers - oppsie!


This is TYPICAL - a nutcase saw a vision of his dead wife, in July.  Yeah, Jesus shouting frantically, to get ready now.  Filmed on set, the front seat of his car

Don't do drugs and watch movies about Dinosaurs - it can give you terrible, vivid nightmares.

Another vision - sounds like he's suffering serious guilt, stuff that 'words can't describe'...  with ominous music in the background - not sure if music was included in the vision or added for effect.


Pat Robertson interviews a lady who shot herself & saw God... life beyond the grave.  This is some professional production, sensational stuff - Oh... she's selling a book about it, but not the Bible.

Here's the REAL problem, Luke 16:19-31 ends with, "And he said unto him, if they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."  (Moses & Prophets are the Old Testament, one rose from the dead is Jesus Christ - if they reject that, there is nothing left as a foundation for believing faith).

This guy is another "Bible Interpreter via Dreams" ... yet right off the bat, he mixes up the "Last Trump"
Which is AFTER the Rapture as given in Revelation.  The video actually exposes this false prophet, and Ben Carson as a fraud.  The false prophet also promotes Donald Trump, so does Jerry Falwell Jr.



Bottom line is don't read the Bible (especially the New Testament), just ONCE.  To gain understanding of End Time Events, read it over and over and over - and over time, you'll begin to see the continuity and unity, understand the time-line, and not be taken in by these non-Bible readers.  Seeming contradictions come from a lack of reading, not knowing the events, locations & participants.  We are still in the "church age", the New Testament is most relevant TODAY, but following the Rapture, the events of Revelation Chapter 4, resume - also where excited people are making wild predictions of death, destruction & desolation.  "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: ..."

What I find troubling in these scare tactics, sensationalism - fear may be a motivator, but once the sensationalism fear wears off - so does the false faith.  None of these end-time fears are Biblically based to begin with - none of it is motivation from the Word of God - where saving faith originates.  Saving faith is in "the" Person of Jesus Christ, what He did on your behalf, not what you can do to save yourself from destruction & damnation. 

The question is: Are you "Fleeing from a coming event" or "entering into a one-on-one relationship with an individual"?  Abraham was called the "friend of God", yet he still had plenty of troubles - but it was a relationship between Abraham and God, understanding God's promises, and finally, in a singular act of faith - there was a transaction, Romans 4:3 "For what saith the scriptures?  Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness".

What was that faith event for Abraham?  Genesis 15:5-7 "And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, (count the stars), if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall they seed be.  And he believed in the Lord; and he counted it for righteousness.  And he said unto him, I am the Lord that brought thee out of Ur ...".

Abraham & Sarah were quite old, well past the age of fertility.  Issac was the beginning fulfillment of this promise made by God.  Abraham proved he believed God could create "life" in a dead womb and restore life to a Isaac, whom God asked Abraham to offer as a sacrifice (Genesis 22).  But that "transaction" between God and Abraham began with Abraham staring up into the heavens one night, and God stating, 'One day, you'll have as many descendants as the stars of heaven."   Abraham believed, God said "because YOU believe ME, righteousness" and friendship, not fear; salvation, not damnation.

The Bible is full of sin, hypocrites and some pretty awful stuff.  Now I haven't offered my wife into a kings harem, like Abraham did, or sleep with another man's wife & have him killed like King David - whom God called the "apple of His eye", yet I still sin right along with the rest of humanity... and regret sinning.  The God of the Bible offers a relationship with a great ending, or eternity... and gives an "reassurance", His Spirit to help you get-to-know-Him, also so His sudden return won't surprise you.  We know He's going to "wrap things up" someday, rather than focusing on the wrapping up process, why not get to know the "wrapper-upper"?

Here's how I got started.  As simple as A-B-C.

Admit:  God already knows everything about you.  Good stuff and Bad stuff.  Ignorance of the Law is no excuse, He has standards only Jesus could obtain, and all of us fall far short of His standards.  We might make a good effort, but perfection is an unobtainable goal 24hrs a day.  Romans 3:23 - "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"  Fail or epic fail, we've all fallen short of perfection - unfortunately, God can't stand imperfection in His perfect Heaven.

Believe:  Jesus said He was the Son of God, sent to 'take our place of punishment', pay the penalty we deserve.  Once the "sin" punishment/penalty is PAID, it's over and done with, actually it's insulting to Jesus to try and "add" to His payment - like suggesting you could do it better.  (Hebrews 10:9-14 "...For by one offering He has perfected for ever them that are sanctified").  Jesus "settled up the debt" we had with God, and curiously, like Abraham, makes us a similar offer, LIFE even after we become as men call "dead".  He did it with Lazarus (John 11:38), and raised Himself from the dead, proving He alone has power over Life and Death.  So as Jesus said on the Cross, "it is finished" - the last payment or punishment for the sin debt was paid-in-full.

If you're like me, you probably already KNEW that.... and it had no real effect, positive or negative, "knowing" is one thing, "applying what you know" is another.

Confess:  Abraham "believed God...", is quite different from knowing about God.  Again, the Apostle Paul gives us the relationship starting point, just like he did with Abraham, in Romans 10:9-10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."  When I was alone in my living room & said, "Lord Jesus, I've blown it.  I tried to live my life my own way, forgive me & my sins, come into my heart and save me, whatever is left of my life is yours" - I really didn't think He'd ever "take me" or "want me"... but I sure wanted Him enough to ASK!   

Something changed, at first I didn't understand why some of the desires I once had, weren't that desirable anymore.  The next time I tried to "get high" - I couldn't, and actually was pretty turned off by the whole thing, 'Why am I doing this, when I don't even like this anymore...!'  Quitting smoking was easy, without the desire.  But one was really different thing, I wanted to read and understand everything I could about the Bible & Jesus.  It was like stepping into a new place, and suddenly, everything looked recognizable & understandable.  For the first time, I could see how the Bible wasn't condemning me, it was welcoming me to read & understand - like it was written with ME in mind.

Many years of a good mind were taken away by drug abuse.  But Jesus promises a "sound mind", "peace" that surpasses understanding, and a restoration through renewing of the mind & mental cleansing like washing of water, when we read the Word of God.  I doubt I'd ever earn the title, "he was a friend of God", like Abraham, yet, I'm very content with God being MY friend, and looking forward with Joy instead of Dread at End Time events.

The Gospel of John is quite a "friendly" account or perspective of Jesus' life.
The best way to prepare for End Time Events is to get to know the Author of those events.
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Re: September 27th
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2016, 07:04:16 PM »
Knowing it is 2 weeks before September 27th, if you assume 'something dramatic' is going to happen, how would you prepare for it?

Some predictions are Obama will be the last president of the USA.

Another predicts the dollar will completely collapse, stocks will crash and general turmoil will erupt.

Some speculators say there is an Asteroid headed this way, but governments not wanting to create a greater panic, are suppressing news of the coming event.

There is no religious holiday that MOST people use to mark a spiritual event - but if it were necessary, would Jesus have said, 'nobody knows the day, not even the hour...' of His return. 

We are in the "church age" as some scholars like to call it, God's focus is on preparing the "bride of Christ", the church.  If the Gospels were the "transition" from God's primary focus from Israel, then the Church age started with the day of Pentecost, or Book of Acts of the Apostles.  The church age ends with Revelation chapter 3, Revelation chapter 4 resumes, the focus is on Israel... sort of a final 'chance'.

a note of importance, the Holy Spirit who was given freely to the 'church' in Acts and following, will be taken away with the Rapture of the Church, when Revelation 4 & the focus on Israel resumes.  This is not to imply God has forgotten about Israel, quite the contrary, the "wild branch" of Gentile Believers were grafted into the root of Israel during the church age, soon it'll be time to wrap things up and bring some pretty nasty stuff on those who would rather stay 'here' than be with Jesus Christ. 

One of the purposes of the the Holy Spirit is restraining evil (2 Thessalonians 2:6).  Probably a part is by individual conscience, the fear of retribution or judgement or respect for governmental authority (Romans chapter 13, verses 1 thru 7).   Upon the Rapture of Believers, this restraining influence of the Holy Spirit will end.  People who didn't want "God" anywhere in their lives, will have it.  If you didn't trust people before, I suspect during these times, any remaining trust would quickly erode away.  Those movies of dog-eat-dog, lawlessness, apocalyptic times could become the norm.  The ISIS "love of death" and inhumanity might not be isolated, but widespread.  One author has suggested the 666 is not translated, "six hundred, threescore, and six" but looks exactly like an Islamic symbol or phrase that would identify you as a follower of Islam (or beheaded - which Revelation does talk about as the killing method).  Read about some of this in Revelation 13, the whole book is worth reading.

Obama the last president, currency collapse, could happen, Asteroid / Meteor crash into the sea and kill 1/3 of the creatures in it - yup, all could happen, beginning with September 27 - but nobody knows, as Jesus said, the day nor the hour.

I think the real problem will be "the Restrainer" will be taken away.  Like an EMP, in a split second, life as we know it, changes.  Curiously, one of the 'duties' of the Holy Spirit is to open our understanding of the Bible, help us understand God's love and see our own sin and brokenness.  In a moment in time, that too is swept away.  We've never lived in a world without God, the influence of God, the friendship of God, the forgiveness of God.  When that day comes, the Rapture of the Church, it won't matter how "good" you've been, just whether or not you know Jesus Christ personally.   
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Re: September 27th
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2016, 11:32:40 AM »
I can't understand why September 27th is being marked as a date of some upcoming event. But it could be interesting to explain some dates.

There is no religious holiday that MOST people use to mark a spiritual event - but if it were necessary, would Jesus have said, 'nobody knows the day, not even the hour...' of His return.

Some Orthodox Christian Churches still use the Julian calendar (of Julius Caesar), and even though that calendar has been abandoned in most of the Christian world, it was used for centuries until the calendar reform of Pope Gregory XIII in 1582, so it is still kind of relevant. By the Julian calendar, there are three dates dedicated to the Feast of the Holy Cross, and these three days are observed with strict fasting. And they are: January 18th, September 11th, and September 27th.

January 18th - A day dedicated to the Holy Martyrs Teopemptos and Teonas. Emperor Diocletian tortured Bishop Teopemptos in many different ways. He brought a magician Teonas to prepare a strong poison to give Teopemptos to drink. But Teopemptos made the cross sign before drinking, and the poison could not harm him. When Teonas saw this, he immediately declared Jesus Christ as his Savior and decided to become a Christian. Teopemptos was then beheaded, and Teonas was buried alive.

September 11th - A day dedicated to the Beheading of Saint John the Baptist. Whoever commited the terrorist attack on the New York World Trade Center in 2001, they certainly had in mind this date by the Julian calendar as a kind of coded message, so it is important to know this.

September 27th - A day dedicated to the Exaltation of the Holy Cross. The True Cross was discovered in 326 by Saint Helena, the mother of the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great, during a pilgrimage she made to Jerusalem. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre was then built at the site of the discovery, by order of Helena and Constantine. On this day the Constantine's victory over the Emperor Maxentius is also being celebrated.
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Re: September 27th
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2016, 07:51:50 AM »
Not quite what I had in mind....  In Roman Catholicism, it's easier to count the days that are not "feasts" or dedicated to a "saint".

Were all the fragments of the "Holy Cross" reassembled, it could build dozens of them.   Furthermore, there is no record of the Romans or Jews taking down the "Cross of Christ" and preserving it - no doubt, it was 'reused' again and again.  Reminds me of stuff like this:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/1800825/is-where-jesus-is-buried-geologist-claims-to-have-found-christs-tomb/

Religious "Icons" are pointless without the actual person or event, right?   Why venerate the toothpick size piece of wood, of questionable origin, when the Real Person is available?  It's be like saving the telephone I last talked to my deceased dad - certainly the technology is better.
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Re: September 27th
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2016, 07:47:41 AM »
Here's an interesting story of note, the stray dog problem in South Dallas, TX.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-stray-dogs-20160915-snap-story.html

After the "restrainer" or Holy Spirit is removed from the earth, which is just after what Christians call "the Rapture" or "Catching Away", evil as we've never known before, will be turned loose.  It is speculated "pets" will turn into "predators" and trained animals will turn wild... again.

The Holy Spirit is the One who uses our Conscience to convince us of sin - not the imaginary stuff, but clearly defined rejection and disobedience toward God as outlined in the Bible.  None of the micro-aggression and politically correct stuff that changes with public opinion.  Ten Commandments are just the "rough outline" sort-of-speak, there are literally thousands of "Dos" and "Don'ts" in the Bible - and as Romans 3:10 says, we've all fallen "short" of God's glory, Perfection or keeping them all.   Yes, we all 'were' capable at one time, but it's our 'nature' to do everything BUT what God expects or wants.  It's hereditary, passed down from the First Man, Adam.

It would not be very good, if there were not a "way out" of the mess we perpetuate, but God in His love, sent His only Son, Jesus Christ, to publicly be punished and die in our place of punishment.  He, Jesus, being both God and Man, was able to offer himself, perfect and sinless, for us - which in itself is quite a selfish act of love!

One of the things that distinguishes True Christianity from world religions & cults, is the Resurrection of Jesus - He died, 3 days later, He is alive again.

Hollywood has made a fortune, making movies of death, destruction and fear.  We're getting close to Halloween, yea, all those slasher and down-right gross movies are lining the shelves at Wally World, and TV promotions are not far behind.  Crime Movies, Supernatural & Cults - it seems like the imagination for this stuff is bottomless, and of course, ISIS is getting in on the killing act, posting videos of be-headings and gruesome acts of pure evil, to 'scare' both adversary and innocent.   One of these thugs made a rather interesting statement, something like, 'We not like westerners, you love LIFE, we love DEATH'.

The first chapter of the Gospel of John describes Jesus as coming from God to His own, who would not accept Him, because they 'loved darkness' (sin & death), rather than light (love and life).   It's the LIFE or DEATH issue, but here's the point....

Jesus willingly laid down His life, paying the penalty for our sins, and then took His life back up again - which proves death has no power over Him, and that He is the Giver of life to whomever He wills... which means the reverse is also true!   Unlike ever other so-called 'holy-man', prophet or saint, every one of them and us, owes our LIFE to Jesus, He is, the originator of Life.  When He was confronted over holy men of His day, they claimed they were descendants of Abraham, yet Jesus answered, "before Abraham was, I am" - lest we think it insignificant, they took up stones to stone Him, because He made Himself "equal" with God.   Proof of that statement, is the Resurrection from the dead.  Only God can give life, or restore life to the dead, whether spiritually or physically.

There is no back door, side door or special secret involved in gaining eternal life - after all Jesus did for us, He also made it really simple, an act of faith (as I wrote in the 1st message).  A "transaction" between YOU and GOD, quite personal, not a mighty feat of strength or complicate by 'steps of holiness' or repeating some 'formula-of-faith'.   An act of faith, so simple, a child can understand it.   Here it is in a nutshell, as simple as A-B-C


A.  admit you are a sinner to God.  He sees everything, knows everything, absolutely nothing is hidden from Him, and there are no excuses, pleading 'ignorance' doesn't work, there is a "sin debt" which the Apostle Paul said, "The wages of sin is death."   Spiritual death = eternal death = eternal punishment.

B.  believe Jesus Christ died on the cross for YOUR sins.  He loves you to the point, if you were the ONLY person on earth needed saving from eternal death, He, in a very personal way, would take you place of punishment.   Paul said, "But God commended His love for us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us".   Not if our good outweighed our bad, or if we visited some holy site, or retraced footsteps, or sacrificed our life for a friend - the simple truth, God loves you as an individual, wants you, will take you 'just the way you are' - because Jesus died in your place in a horrible way, and paid your sin penalty.   Understand, you deserve what Jesus got.  Judgement is getting what you deserve, Mercy is NOT getting what you deserve... which is exactly what Jesus is offering - Divine Mercy... but since He's "Perfect" and "God" and "the Giver of Life" - the sin needs to be paid for first.  Know also, your best effort isn't good enough, because, as Paul says, "For all have sinned, and fallen short of God's Glory."
God's heaven is a place of perfection, there is no 99.999% perfect - it's a literal, you are or you are not.  Jesus is the Perfect High Priest, paid the ultimate price, God paying for His imperfect creation, He paid YOUR debt.

C.  confess means to 'speak the same thing' - in this case, 'say the obvious, in full agreement'.   Paul again said, in the 10th chapter of Romans, starting with verse 9...
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

There is no magic formula, no special rite, nobody else can do it for you, and it is impossible to 'slowly grow into it'.
Remember in the first post, Abram stepped outside, and in a moment of simple faith, BELIEVED God could create life in the lifeless womb of his aged wife - the point is, that moment in time, when Abram said in his heart, "I believe God" and God saved him.   A "spiritual transaction" with eternal consequences took place then - the same can happen for you.  Don't just 'take my word for it' - open a Bible to the Gospel of John, and start reading the Apostle John's account of the earthly life of Jesus.   While your at it, simply ask God to help you understand - just as you talk to a friend of even a stranger, "Can you help me understand what I'm reading in this Bible?"

This is the beauty of knowing Jesus Christ, it is very personal, and the relationship always begins in a personal & individual way.
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Re: September 27th
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2016, 10:00:41 AM »
OMG!!!!

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/03/earth-to-be-destroyed-sept-27-28-2015-from-erasmus-of-america-exclusive-details-march-16-2015-358-pm-3123196.html?currentSplittedPage=0
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SEVERAL SOURCES ARE BEHIND THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION, BUT THE KEY SOURCE IS A FEDERAL SCIENTIST WHO SLIPPED THIS INFORMATION OUT THROUGH THE BACKDOOR SO WE WOULD KNOW WHAT IS BEING EXPECTED FOR SEPT. 27. I PROBABLY HAVE THE ONLY MILITARY ANSWER IN THE WORLD THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE THE EARTH FROM BEING DESTROYED ON SEPT. 27 AS THE DATE GIVEN BY THE FEDERAL SCIENTIST THE EARTH IS EXPECTED TO BE DESTROYED. ALL LIFE ON EARTH IS EXPECTED TO BE KILLED INCLUDING THE WEALTHY BOYS HIDING IN THEIR HOLES DEEP UNDER THE GROUND WILL BE JUST AS DEAD AS THE REST OF US ON EARTH! THEIR WEALTH DIES THAT DAY NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE ON EARTH OR HIDING UNDER THE EARTH IN SECRET LOCATIONS. ALL SECRET LOCATIONS WILL BE DESTROYED NO MATTER WHERE LOCATED ON EARTH.

      THIS IS THE INFORMATION FROM THE BACKDOOR FEDERAL SCIENTIST WHO SLIPPED THIS OUT SO IT WOULD NOT TRACE BACK TO HIM AS OBAMA, ETC. WOULD NOT LIKE FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THIS! SCIENTIFIC DATA INDICATES THAT A GIANT ASTEROID IS TO HIT THE EARTH ON SEPT. 27.

That's last year's prediction, for Sept. 27, 2015.   Rather hard to read with the all-caps, I guess that's like YELLING or setting off the alarm bells.  Who is this "federal scientist" - or maybe we should ask, where does Russia Today come up with this BS?

It's origins:  http://fastboomamericaneconomy.com/   Which for any English speaking person, quickly realizes is 100% garbage.

There's going to be more and more garbage - the only trustworthy source is still the Bible.
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Re: September 27th
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2016, 10:30:20 AM »
OMG!!!!

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/03/earth-to-be-destroyed-sept-27-28-2015-from-erasmus-of-america-exclusive-details-march-16-2015-358-pm-3123196.html?currentSplittedPage=0
That's last year's prediction, for Sept. 27, 2015.   Rather hard to read with the all-caps, I guess that's like YELLING or setting off the alarm bells.  Who is this "federal scientist" - or maybe we should ask, where does Russia Today come up with this BS?

It's origins:  http://fastboomamericaneconomy.com/   Which for any English speaking person, quickly realizes is 100% garbage.

There's going to be more and more garbage - the only trustworthy source is still the Bible.

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Re: September 27th
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2016, 02:33:00 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/

Another crash averted...?
Markets are closed, just about everything is up slightly.

Heard some thunder, looks like rain, not expecting much else.
Gotta work tonight at 1EST, probably be business as usual, I'll replace a line card carrying up to 4Tbits of traffic to a major data center, so if you notice a slow down - it's still not the end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it.

On the other hand, if I'm not back tomorrow...   :blink:
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