Re: Jimmy Carter Has Cancer

Started by SalemCat, December 17, 2015, 08:34:18 PM

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SalemCat

Yes, Jimmy Carter sucked as a Leader.

I will not judge his soul, however.

On the other hand, I will unequivocally state our present POTUS is evil. And has a foul soul. May God forgive me.

kroz

No.

God is just!  He will render justice to people like Obama.

walkstall

Quote from: kroz on December 18, 2015, 05:42:16 AM
No.

God is just!  He will render justice to people like Obama.

And all this time I was thinking God would render justice to everyone.   
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

kroz

Quote from: walkstall on December 18, 2015, 03:08:07 PM
And all this time I was thinking God would render justice to everyone.

Those saved by the grace of God are spared His wrath for their transgressions.

None of us deserve God's grace.  Some have received His mercy by His sovereign grace.

Our sins are covered by the blood of Christ and God remembers them no more.

That is NOT justice, it is mercy.

Traninit

Quote from: kroz on December 18, 2015, 03:16:15 PM
Those saved by the grace of God are spared His wrath for their transgressions.

None of us deserve God's grace.  Some have received His mercy by His sovereign grace.

Our sins are covered by the blood of Christ and God remembers them no more.

That is NOT justice, it is mercy.

I think Salem is correct. And I believe Obama is the devil in human form. Aren't God and the fallen angel always at odds? If Obama is the devil, doesn't that exempt him from any justice or mercy exacted by God? Obama is the antithesis of human.
One more liberal President in 2016 will mean the irreversible, eventual and total demise of our democracy. The rise and fall of democracy IS past the "apathy stage" at this moment. If this  momentum continues on its present path, restoration of democracy will require the least desired of actions.

Traninit

BTW, I think Jimmy Carter was a useless President but a very benevolent, caring human being...with a brother who was probably a great guy, but sucked in the beer business. :wink:
One more liberal President in 2016 will mean the irreversible, eventual and total demise of our democracy. The rise and fall of democracy IS past the "apathy stage" at this moment. If this  momentum continues on its present path, restoration of democracy will require the least desired of actions.

walkstall

Quote from: kroz on December 18, 2015, 03:16:15 PM
Those saved by the grace of God are spared His wrath for their transgressions.

None of us deserve God's grace.  Some have received His mercy by His sovereign grace.

Our sins are covered by the blood of Christ and God remembers them no more.

That is NOT justice, it is mercy.

Is that not a judgment call by God?
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

kroz

Quote from: walkstall on December 18, 2015, 04:49:59 PM
Is that not a judgment call by God?

It is most definitely a judgement call by God!!!!

However, you will know them by their fruit!!

Obama is fruitless!

kroz

Quote from: Traninit on December 18, 2015, 04:17:24 PM
I think Salem is correct. And I believe Obama is the devil in human form. Aren't God and the fallen angel always at odds? If Obama is the devil, doesn't that exempt him from any justice or mercy exacted by God? Obama is the antithesis of human.

Obama is NOT the devil.  The devil is a fallen angel.

I don't want to confuse you with too much information, but Ephesians tells us that God determined from the foundation of the earth who would receive His mercy.

Justice and mercy are opposites.  None deserve God's mercy.  All deserve His justice which is eternal damnation.  By the grace of God some receive his mercy.

Obama does not appear to be a recipient of God's mercy.  Evil reigns in his life.

Traninit

Quote from: kroz on December 18, 2015, 05:17:51 PM
Obama is NOT the devil.  The devil is a fallen angel.

I don't want to confuse you with too much information, but Ephesians tells us that God determined from the foundation of the earth who would receive His mercy.

Justice and mercy are opposites.  None deserve God's mercy.  All deserve His justice which is eternal damnation.  By the grace of God some receive his mercy.

Obama does not appear to be a recipient of God's mercy.  Evil reigns in his life.

Is it possible that Hitler was Gabriel (sp?) in guise, and has re-emerged as Obama? Why not?
One more liberal President in 2016 will mean the irreversible, eventual and total demise of our democracy. The rise and fall of democracy IS past the "apathy stage" at this moment. If this  momentum continues on its present path, restoration of democracy will require the least desired of actions.

kroz

Quote from: Traninit on December 18, 2015, 05:29:12 PM
Is it possible that Hitler was Gabriel (sp?) in guise, and has re-emerged as Obama? Why not?

Angels and humans are two distinctly different entities.  Humans can be possessed by an evil angel but they are not the same entities.

Gabriel is a good archangel.  He would not have possessed Hitler.  Michael is also a good archangel.

The spirit of Satan can possess humans and motivate them to behave wickedly, but Satan is only one angel. 

Scripture says that a third of the angels fell from grace with Satan when he was cast out of heaven for trying to create a resurrection against God.  Later (in the book of Jude) we learn the fate of many of those fallen angels.

Jude 6

"And angels who did not keep their own domain but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day."

But some of these fallen angels are still prowling the earth... seeking for those who they can destroy.  Those are the ones who "may" have influenced Hitler and other evil men.... like Obama.


Traninit

Quote from: kroz on December 18, 2015, 05:46:24 PM
Angels and humans are two distinctly different entities.  Humans can be possessed by an evil angel but they are not the same entities.

Gabriel is a good archangel.  He would not have possessed Hitler.  Michael is also a good archangel.

The spirit of Satan can possess humans and motivate them to behave wickedly, but Satan is only one angel. 

Scripture says that a third of the angels fell from grace with Satan when he was cast out of heaven for trying to create a resurrection against God.  Later (in the book of Jude) we learn the fate of many of those fallen angels.

Jude 6

"And angels who did not keep their own domain but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day."

But some of these fallen angels are still prowling the earth... seeking for those who they can destroy.  Those are the ones who "may" have influenced Hitler and other evil men.... like Obama.

Do you not think Satan has the ability to take human form?
One more liberal President in 2016 will mean the irreversible, eventual and total demise of our democracy. The rise and fall of democracy IS past the "apathy stage" at this moment. If this  momentum continues on its present path, restoration of democracy will require the least desired of actions.

kroz

Quote from: Traninit on December 18, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Do you not think Satan has the ability to take human form?

Yes, I do believe that angels can take on human form.  However they cannot take MY form.  They can appear as humans but they are NOT humans.  They can fool us into believing that they are human.

Many men have seen angels.  It is well documented in the scriptures.

But they are not the same as any human created by God.  Angels who appear as humans do so only temporarily.  Then they disappear.

Traninit

Quote from: kroz on December 18, 2015, 06:08:50 PM
  Then they disappear.

Good. In Obama's case, the Devil disappears at the end of this year! Yes!  :thumbsup:
One more liberal President in 2016 will mean the irreversible, eventual and total demise of our democracy. The rise and fall of democracy IS past the "apathy stage" at this moment. If this  momentum continues on its present path, restoration of democracy will require the least desired of actions.

kroz

Quote from: Traninit on December 18, 2015, 06:16:19 PM
Good. In Obama's case, the Devil disappears at the end of this year! Yes!  :thumbsup:

When an angel disappears there is nothing left to see!  :biggrin:

When you look at Obama you are not looking at an angel.  However, he could be driven by an evil spirit!