Life After Death?

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Solar

Quote from: simpsonofpg on March 07, 2013, 01:52:47 PM
I believe that when I die I will go to live with God and don't care what form I have.  God invites all of us to his house but not all of us chose to follow the path.  I believe that Heaven is living with God and hell is living without God.
Interesting. I like that. :cool:
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Quote from: simpsonofpg on March 07, 2013, 01:52:47 PM
I believe that when I die I will go to live with God and don't care what form I have.  God invites all of us to his house but not all of us chose to follow the path.  I believe that Heaven is living with God and hell is living without God.

Hate to be the wet blanket, but HE said, "NO MAN has ascended into heaven except the Son of Man who came down from heaven."--John 3:13

The dead sleep in the grave until their appointed time--The saints at His return, and the rest of the dead after the 1,000 year reign of Christ in Jerusalem along with the saints. (Rev 20:5)

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Quote from: Yawn on March 07, 2013, 04:43:37 PM
Hate to be the wet blanket, but HE said, "NO MAN has ascended into heaven except the Son of Man who came down from heaven."--John 3:13

The dead sleep in the grave until their appointed time--The saints at His return, and the rest of the dead after the 1,000 year reign of Christ in Jerusalem along with the saints. (Rev 20:5)
Yawn, he is entitled his own Belief.
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I think when you die, you just die
I do not believe in souls or the after-life

Solar

Quote from: TNHarley on April 04, 2013, 08:50:56 AM
I think when you die, you just die
I do not believe in souls or the after-life
That's just sad in so many ways.
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Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2013, 06:45:18 AM
That's just sad in so many ways.

My Father believed the same. After he died, I often wondered what happened to him.
It's possible that what happens to a person in death, reflects what they believe in life.

I don't know if it means anything, but after my Dad died, I saw him in several dreams. In each dream, he didn't know that he was dead, and was attempting to work on things that he normally would have been doing. Also, each time I saw him, he was more confused and disoriented. In the final dream, he didn't know who I was, and was just drifting aimlessly...almost seemed like it was like a puff of smoke that never disappears, the particles just dissapate to the point of becoming meaningless. It may be the same with the soul.

On a happier note, even if it seems silly, a non-believer can began asking God to come into his life, and over time, they will begin to notice that things are different; in a better way. :wink:

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on April 05, 2013, 07:58:01 AM
My Father believed the same. After he died, I often wondered what happened to him.
It's possible that what happens to a person in death, reflects what they believe in life.

I don't know if it means anything, but after my Dad died, I saw him in several dreams. In each dream, he didn't know that he was dead, and was attempting to work on things that he normally would have been doing. Also, each time I saw him, he was more confused and disoriented.
In the final dream, he didn't know who I was, and was just drifting aimlessly...almost seemed like it was like a puff of smoke that never disappears, the particles just dissapate to the point of becoming meaningless. It may be the same with the soul.

On a happier note, even if it seems silly, a non-believer can began asking God to come into his life, and over time, they will begin to notice that things are different; in a better way. :wink:
Possibly quite telling.

I can honestly say I know for a fact that life goes on after death, I've experienced it.
Twice I've seen my lifeless body laying on the ground, and as an disinterested observer with the emotional attachment to that of of a smashed bug on the ground, I didn't want to return, the other side is sooo much more pleasant.
And in one of these incidents, I was forced to hang around and wait, it was not my time, but I had no desire to return to my body, but someone very familiar and trusted, kept me company and kept me from leaving permanently.

The reason I know this to be a real incident, is, that all the things I saw were from the perspective of a few feet above rooftop level.
After I was released from the hospital, I returned to the scene to thank the guy who pulled me from the inferno.
I saw him as I pulled up, we talked a bit and I told him what I saw. The thing is, you cannot see the entry to his home because it has an 6' privacy gated fence, but I described in detail what was beyond the fence and he just stood in awe, because his father, a Master Japanese gardener made the area a place of worship that only family was allowed to see.

Yes, there is life beyond, and I look forward to it, but not quite yet.
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TNHarley

Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2013, 06:45:18 AM
That's just sad in so many ways.
What makes that sad?
Because I do not need fiction or anyone elses help to find peace within myself?
I do not need to believe in Santa to be happy
Sorry, I dont have that weakness :)

Solar

Quote from: TNHarley on April 05, 2013, 11:24:35 AM
What makes that sad?
Because I do not need fiction or anyone elses help to find peace within myself?
I do not need to believe in Santa to be happy
Sorry, I dont have that weakness :)
It's sad that you've stagnated, you've lost interest in challenging yourself as to what life is, what it has in store for you, what is expected of you as an individual.

Did you never question why you are here, did you just assume your existence is a fluke, that reproduction and furthering the human race is a waste of time?

I only pose these questions as food for thought, a challenge to seek answers to the meaning of life.
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Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2013, 11:43:43 AM
It's sad that you've stagnated, you've lost interest in challenging yourself as to what life is, what it has in store for you, what is expected of you as an individual.

Did you never question why you are here, did you just assume your existence is a fluke, that reproduction and furthering the human race is a waste of time?

I only pose these questions as food for thought, a challenge to seek answers to the meaning of life.
WOW
You get all that because I do not believe in an after-life? LOL
Existence a fluke?
Reproducing a waste?
WTF

Solar

Quote from: TNHarley on April 05, 2013, 11:47:26 AM
WOW
You get all that because I do not believe in an after-life? LOL
Existence a fluke?
Reproducing a waste?
WTF
Got nothing? OK...
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Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2013, 11:43:43 AM
It's sad that you've stagnated, you've lost interest in challenging yourself as to what life is, what it has in store for you, what is expected of you as an individual.

Although I don't want to speak for another user, it seems obvious to me that the people who "lost interest in challenging [themselves] as to what life is..." are religious people who have accepted as undeniably true a mythological explanation to life's mysteries rather than appreciating such mysteries.

Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2013, 11:43:43 AMDid you never question why you are here, did you just assume your existence is a fluke, that reproduction and furthering the human race is a waste of time?

Do Christians just assume "God" is a fluke? and living happily ever after in heaven simply for believing mythology "is a waste of time"? 

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Quote from: American on April 05, 2013, 11:51:58 AM
Although I don't want to speak for another user, it seems obvious to me that the people who "lost interest in challenging [themselves] as to what life is..." are religious people who have accepted as undeniably true a mythological explanation to life's mysteries rather than appreciating such mysteries.

Do Christians just assume "God" is a fluke? and living happily ever after in heaven simply for believing mythology "is a waste of time"?
I agree with that
The religous try to disregard other ideas or even flat out facts
Like the oppression of science..
When did Galileo get pardoned for being RIGHT? LOL
God forbid your ideology goes against a bunch intoxicated/mentally challenged shepherds..
But dont get me started on religous oppression and clues to it being bullcrap..

Solar

Quote from: American on April 05, 2013, 11:51:58 AM
Although I don't want to speak for another user, it seems obvious to me that the people who "lost interest in challenging [themselves] as to what life is..." are religious people who have accepted as undeniably true a mythological explanation to life's mysteries rather than appreciating such mysteries.

Do Christians just assume "God" is a fluke? and living happily ever after in heaven simply for believing mythology "is a waste of time"?
I wouldn't know, I'm not a Religious person, you'd have to ask them why they have faith, but that's a whole other ball of wax.
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