Just a Theory

Started by Solar, July 26, 2015, 03:33:44 PM

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red_dirt

Quote from: kroz on July 27, 2015, 06:58:01 PM
I am sorry to take exception to that, red.
God does not forget.  He is omniscient...... knows everything.

Hope I didn't give the impression our sins somehow slip God's mind.

http://www.egrc.net/articles/director/articles_director_0104.html

walkstall

Quote from: carlb on July 27, 2015, 07:50:58 PM
Why do you call yourself "good"? There is none good except your Father who is in heaven -- Jesus

I don't understand the condescending " eyeroll"

The REASON Man is born is to become literal Sons &Daughters of God. KINGS and PEIESTS in the Kingdom of God

A Son of God does "good" because he is taking on the nature of his Father in heaven because the Spirit of Christ dwells in him.

THAT is why a Christian "does good"


QuoteWe were born to be KINGS AND PRIESTS in His Kingdom when He returns.

I don't call myself good.   But IF we are all going to be "KINGS AND PRIESTS" who is going to be doing the light work.   

I am working yet on how they got all the animals on Noah's Ark.   Then to feed them for 40 days and night.
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

zewazir

Quote from: walkstall on July 27, 2015, 09:23:03 PM
I am working yet on how they got all the animals on Noah's Ark.   Then to feed them for 40 days and night.
Basic multidimensional physics.  The outside does not necessarily have to be larger than the inside.   :biggrin:

walkstall

Quote from: zewazir on July 27, 2015, 10:02:59 PM
Basic multidimensional physics.  The outside does not necessarily have to be larger than the inside.   :biggrin:


Is that like multitasking?  :lol:

Hmm... How does one keep the water out then?  IF the out side is not larger then the inside. 
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

kroz

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There are many difficult teachings in the Scriptures.  Some are meant to be discerned by mature believers because Paul calls them the "meat" of the word.  Some people are only able to handle the milk of the word.  The milk is the easy stuff..... so if my following post is offensive, go back to the milk and put the meat in the freezer for a while longer.

With that said I will relate some more difficult truth.  One of the most difficult passages in Scripture is in Romans chapter nine.  But Paul doesn't begin the book with this information.  He spends eight chapters building up to what he is going to reveal in chapters nine through eleven.  The remainder of the book (chapters 12-16) deals with living out the christian life.   Romans is the most complete and thorough doctrinal book in the New Testament.

But in chapter nine he makes a stunning revelation.  He says that something happened even BEFORE Rebekah gave birth to her twin sons Jacob and Esau.  It says that God loved Jacob but he hated Esau.....before they were even born or done anything good or bad.  Love and hate are not emotional feelings here.  They are action verbs.  He did something for one but not the other.  What did He do?  He determined their destiny.

for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God's purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls,

So, does that sound fair?

Paul immediately says that there is NO injustice with God.  And he goes on to quote God's words to Moses.  "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION."

Then he goes on to quote what God said about Pharaoh during the exodus from Egypt.  "FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP, TO DEMONSTRATE MY POWER IN YOU, AND THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH."

God has mercy on who He desires and hardens who He desires.  The obvious question is.... so why does He find fault?  For who can resist His will.

The next four verses are hard truth.......

On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, "Why did you make me like this," will it?

Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?

What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?

And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory,


Without making this post far too long, I will summarize by saying that it is God who has chosen His flock before He even laid the foundation of this earth.  He had a Master plan for His creation and we should not challenge Him or His methods of graciously saving some souls.

Also see Ephesians 1: 3-7