Just a Theory from a Christian point of view.

[Darth Fife]

Thanks for great post! As revisionist historians tirelessly work to confound, distort and hinder, so do the scriptural propagandists. Interestingly, it is prominently the same fraternity in the rank and file who serve on both fronts, dedicated to wage war upon truth, itself. As many posters have referenced, the question of Republican pacifism, ineptness, and/or complicity remains on the table of discussion for real thinkers. While seemingly unexplainable, I believe the answer to be human sin, as illustrated in the entire counsel of God. Enemies of truth (wolves) can appear attractive in sheep's clothing and may appear motivated by different reasons, but the overarching empowerment is disobedience before God, period. The enemy is attacking Romans 13 in a deceptive stratagem of scriptural revisionism, attempting to further erode a proper understanding of how Christians are to respond to governance. This body of scripture is instructive and important to all of us, but is also important to the intelligentsia pressing a Marxist agenda - they must attempt to corrupt. Needless to say, American citizens are not "subjects," and are not called by God to render unto Caesar our children, or the minds of our children. Thanks for listening, please forgive lengthy post. I wish you well.

Proverbs 29: 2 "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn." KJV.

I have one word for you...

Paragraphs!

Learn what they are... use them... live them!

Darth

[ORIGINAL WILLARD]

Though your lack of courtesy is in keeping with one who believes the nature of God is "unknowable," it earns no polite acquiescence from me. Perhaps when you master comprehensive texts, you'll find an interest in more substantive aspects of what others visit this site to discuss. It's even possible you'll mature from a fascination with paragraphs.

[walkstall]

Though your lack of courtesy is in keeping with one who believes the nature of God is "unknowable," it earns no polite acquiescence from me. Perhaps when you master comprehensive texts, you'll find an interest in more substantive aspects of what others visit this site to discuss. It's even possible you'll mature from a fascination with paragraphs.

I know your new but please use the quote function on this board. 

[ORIGINAL WILLARD]

I know your new but please use the quote function on this board.

I shall do so...thanks for help.

[Darth Fife]

Though your lack of courtesy is in keeping with one who believes the nature of God is "unknowable," it earns no polite acquiescence from me. Perhaps when you master comprehensive texts, you'll find an interest in more substantive aspects of what others visit this site to discuss. It's even possible you'll mature from a fascination with paragraphs.

I've never been accused of being polite.

Much the same as you will never be accused of being humble.

The purpose of posting on a forum is to communicate your ideas to visitors of that forum. Long, run on sentences and paragraphs that never seem to end make it difficult for your readers to understand what you are trying to say. If the written word is to be your chosen tool for communicating with others, it helps if you have some basic understanding of how to best use that tool.

Otherwise, you are wasting your time.

Darth

[ORIGINAL WILLARD]

I've never been accused of being polite.

Much the same as you will never be accused of being humble.

The purpose of posting on a forum is to communicate your ideas to visitors of that forum. Long, run on sentences and paragraphs that never seem to end make it difficult for your readers to understand what you are trying to say. If the written word is to be your chosen tool for communicating with others, it helps if you have some basic understanding of how to best use that tool.

Otherwise, you are wasting your time.

Darth

My posting manner is prominently one of humility as it relates to interacting with other posters. My first post clearly exemplifies this practice. I offered acknowledgement and apology regarding a "lengthy" post to the intended recipient, thanked him for listening and wished him well. I believe this level of ambassadorship speaks adequately to the attributes of good will, honor and my posting manner. Conversely, your first insult delivered a childish edict, framed in petulance. You need to rethink your notion of who hasn't been "humble."

I value your edict no more than when I first recognized your apparent deficits. You are obviously more impressed with yourself than I am.....I suggest you simply avoid reading my posts if your struggling to understand them.

[Darth Fife]

My posting manner is prominently one of humility as it relates to interacting with other posters. My first post clearly exemplifies this practice. I offered acknowledgement and apology regarding a "lengthy" post to the intended recipient, thanked him for listening and wished him well. I believe this level of ambassadorship speaks adequately to the attributes of good will, honor and my posting manner. Conversely, your first insult delivered a childish edict, framed in petulance. You need to rethink your notion of who hasn't been "humble."

I value your edict no more than when I first recognized your apparent deficits. You are obviously more impressed with yourself than I am.....I suggest you simply avoid reading my posts if your struggling to understand them.

You, my friend, apparently have a very thin skin. Your response here belies your claim of "humility".

If I may offer some friendly advice, lighten up and stop taking yourself so damned seriously!

Darth

[ORIGINAL WILLARD]

I am new to the board and am not sure how this will be received. I've come to understand that some conservatives aren't really Christians. A fact that always confounded me as I grew up in a conservative Christian home. I always thought conservative was just political Christianity. Stupid thought I guess but we were all once young and idealistic. It seems many conservatives are really just anti communist,which is a good thing. Nothing wrong with hating the commies, I do it everyday myself ,but there has to be more to it.

Don't get me wrong. I am far from a religious person. I hate religion and don't even attend a church. I spent my youth as a hellion and feel totally blessed that I came out of my youth in as good of shape as I did. It could've been much worse. I do study the bible and fellowship with other Christians. Just not in a church kinda way.

So much for the preface. Here's my point. I've been struggling for the longest time with the behavior of the republican party. I ask myself, why don't they fight more? Why don't they resist more? Why do they not represent those who elected them? Why do they seem paralyzed? It's as if they can't do anything. It's as if they are under a spell.

I believe we are living in the last days as predicted in the Bible. I realize that every generation has said such things but eventually one of them will be right and I think we are that generation. I have come to believe that the reason the republican party is so incompetent is because God does not want use putting our faith in them. Our faith belongs in God. Republicans can not save us. God has made them impotent.

Why else would they act as they do? Would you have me believe that they are all secretly working with democrats? That they are all closet leftist and it's a great conspiracy? It just doesn't make sense. As much as I don't like McConnell and the like I really don't believe they are closet leftists. I believe their is something bigger at work.

Thanks for your thoughts! You appear to be in great earnest regarding the question of America's survival...so am I. I appreciate your willingness to examine the issues you've placed on the table.

All of the points that you've made, and made well, would comprise an adequate theater of analysis if the causative elements were contained therein..they are not! Americans wallow in frustration because they look for answers that are not apparent where they're looking for them!

If people approach this universe of thought while convinced causation lies in "party" politics, inadvertent legislative expenditure, economic ineptness, poor math skills, who's up or down in 2016, stupidity of governance or even ignorance of history....they will only remain frustrated.

I do not seek to entertain myself with this commentary, nor do I wish to offend you in any way, Rather, your considerations remind me of a much earlier time when I also anguished in ponderment.

For multiplied decades the "Federal Reserve" (a private bank) has been allowed and encouraged to print U.S. Currency (strongest in the world - at least heretofore) in breathtaking amounts, to be loaned to hundreds of governments and "other interests" throughout the world. This hypothetical money, costing nothing, brought breathtaking interest yields, and still does, in earnings unimaginable.

America is bankrupt..and has been, to the point of vulgarity! It would be impossible for America to recover without immediate and critical interruptive measures which we know our nation hasn't the stomach for, even if the masses COULD comprehend the scope and gravity of our peril!

Simply put, a global banking mafia now controls enough of our government to prevent escape. This is possible for people to understand with reasonable study, not that it's very palatable research. It is very dark subject matter and requires a stomach for the truth.

Much of my research is very dry and consists of examining global and domestic documents, largely from domestic and foreign government websites.

I encourage others to learn while they still have the opportunity. At this point in history, it is no longer plausible, possible or constructive to pretend America's peril is attributable to a collective lack of understanding on the part of those tirelessly working in concert to these ends.

The international and domestic control mechanisms have been constructed and prepared for an intentional and very well planned destruction of the American Economy. America would already be in chaos and anarchy if the Federal reserve wasn't artificially propping us up with hypothetical money. When the decision is made, the plug will be pulled.

Remember, when less than honorable men are in charge of the money, the books are cooked until they look pretty good. Most important to realize, hypothetical assets simply disappear when they didn't really exist in the first place. Debt is always very real - and so is slavery!

Finally, a global banking mafia has learned well from the U.S. Federal reserve and its lawless practices. A new and improved (Global Fed) will soon supersede this entity which will facilitate the global enslavement of humanity. A glimpse of this creature is visible in a reading of Pope Benedict's 2009 encyclical wherein he calls for a one-world government and a centralized back...to be given "teeth of enforcement." This scheme was conceived in BrettonWood, New Hampshire, at the George Washington Hotel, 1944. Interestingly, John Maynard Keynes was present and addressed the assembly over the course of several days. Note: It was at this very convention whereupon the World Bank, International Monetary Fund and "anything goes economics" were created - historical fact!

Amassed wealth has been laundered and continues to move into the "international banking cartel" currently under shadowy guidance of entities including the world bank and the international monetary fund. As a side-note, it's been in mainstream news that these entities have bailed out Ireland, Greece, Spain, Italy and other member nations in the failed Socialist/Globalism model - the European Union.

Remember, 1 Timothy 6:10 King James Version (KJV)

10 "For the (love of) money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with (many sorrows)."

I believe we are at the advent of the: "beginning of sorrows,"  something definitely bigger! The hellish architecture of global tyranny is now in place. God has mercifully given us the ability to understand exactly what will happen.

Best wishes to you.

[ORIGINAL WILLARD]

You, my friend, apparently have a very thin skin. Your response here belies your claim of "humility".

If I may offer some friendly advice, lighten up and stop taking yourself so damned seriously!

Darth

Sir, I would truly be grateful for an opportunity to earn your friendship. Perhaps it isn't possible, but I'd appreciate the opportunity if you might extend the grace. I do not seek enemies. Rather, I promise to extend every measure of decency and kindness until you decide to make it impossible. Please be assured I'm not starry-eyed over the issue of respect. I believe true respect must be earned, and is not a casual default to a stupid social nuance! I much prefer the enjoyment of knowing you to the extent you might remain comfortable. Thanks.

[walkstall]

This is the Religion Forum.  IF you keep bring up politics and finance, I will move it. 

[ORIGINAL WILLARD]

This is the Religion Forum.  IF you keep bring up politics and finance, I will move it.

As is evident, even by casual reading, the import of matters of money used in my post are based upon prophetic biblical teaching.

Money, (finances) and stewardship of it is the main subject of nearly half of the parables Jesus told. In addition, one in every seven verses in the New Testament deals with this topic. The Bible offers 500 verses on prayer, fewer than 500 verses on faith, and more than 2,000 verses on money.

In fact, 15 percent of everything Jesus ever taught was on the topic of money and possessions-more than His teachings on heaven and hell combined.

As taught in the biblical narrative, the "love of money" is the foundational malignancy which brings God's second coming upon the Earth.

I sincerely ask you to reconsider your position.

Thanks.

[supsalemgr]

As is evident, even by casual reading, the import of matters of money used in my post are based upon prophetic biblical teaching.

Money, (finances) and stewardship of it is the main subject of nearly half of the parables Jesus told. In addition, one in every seven verses in the New Testament deals with this topic. The Bible offers 500 verses on prayer, fewer than 500 verses on faith, and more than 2,000 verses on money.

In fact, 15 percent of everything Jesus ever taught was on the topic of money and possessions-more than His teachings on heaven and hell combined.

As taught in the biblical narrative, the "love of money" is the foundational malignancy which brings God's second coming upon the Earth.

I sincerely ask you to reconsider your position.

Thanks.

Here it comes.

[Solar]

I sincerely ask you to reconsider your position.

Thanks.

Nope. Finance discussions belong solely in the financial forum.
This is strictly for religion. So simply separate the two, it's possible.
Thanks.

[ORIGINAL WILLARD]

Nope. Finance discussions belong solely in the financial forum.
This is strictly for religion. So simply separate the two, it's possible.
Thanks.

According to your contention, help me understand where tithing might appropriately be discussed, given its financial implications. One might ask how it might be possible to discuss family finances for a Christian family ascribing to biblical principles of monetary stewardship. I ask you to explain where one might discuss varying methods of securing ministerial finances relating to church planning, or securing building funds in keeping with biblical teaching. I would also appreciate an explanation in this context regarding the array of financial decisions pastors and ministerial committees must face on a daily basis. Financial and budgetary realities involving community outreach, missionary funding and food-bank management alone, are complex and demanding components of religion in America.

My "religion" is based upon the teachings of the Holy Bible. To be clear, I refer to the Bible of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, including thirteen epistles written by Paul. The Bible offers 500 verses on prayer, less than 500 on faith and more than 2000 (two thousand) verses on "money." 

Mathew 21:12 reveals God's disdain for ungodly commerce whereupon he ejected the "moneychangers" from the temple. Jesus entered the temple and drove out all those who were buying and selling in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who were selling doves. And He said to them, "It is written, 'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER'; but you are making it a ROBBERS' DEN."...

I believe we are better served by honestly discussing ungodly management of money (power) in the hands of tyrants and wicked kings, contrasted to money (power) held by benevolent servants of God. The Bible is replete with this very example.

Remember, God answers one of the great questions of the ages in 1st Timothy, Chapter six, verse 10:

9 "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness."


Though verse 10 is powerful and declarative; the preceding verse is profoundly explanatory, giving context to the monolithic relevance to "money," and all things attendant thereto. The nexus between money and man's decision to serve or reject God are entirely self evident and established by Him alone! The wisdom of God is evidenced here as men usually use "money" to "finance" sinful conduct, particularly as an ongoing course.

In short, we should accept this liberty to discuss openly what God, himself declares to be the very genesis of ALL evil. I believe this is about as religious, as a subject matter for discussion, it could ever get.

Thanks for allowing me to share my thoughts, I hope you do the same.

[supsalemgr]

According to your contention, help me understand where tithing might appropriately be discussed, given its financial implications. One might ask how it might be possible to discuss family finances for a Christian family ascribing to biblical principles of monetary stewardship. I ask you to explain where one might discuss varying methods of securing ministerial finances relating to church planning, or securing building funds in keeping with biblical teaching. I would also appreciate an explanation in this context regarding the array of financial decisions pastors and ministerial committees must face on a daily basis. Financial and budgetary realities involving community outreach, missionary funding and food-bank management alone, are complex and demanding components of religion in America.

My "religion" is based upon the teachings of the Holy Bible. To be clear, I refer to the Bible of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, including thirteen epistles written by Paul. The Bible offers 500 verses on prayer, less than 500 on faith and more than 2000 (two thousand) verses on "money." 

Mathew 21:12 reveals God's disdain for ungodly commerce whereupon he ejected the "moneychangers" from the temple. Jesus entered the temple and drove out all those who were buying and selling in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who were selling doves. And He said to them, "It is written, 'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER'; but you are making it a ROBBERS' DEN."...

I believe we are better served by honestly discussing ungodly management of money (power) in the hands of tyrants and wicked kings, contrasted to money (power) held by benevolent servants of God. The Bible is replete with this very example.

Remember, God answers one of the great questions of the ages in 1st Timothy, Chapter six, verse 10:

9 "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness."


Though verse 10 is powerful and declarative; the preceding verse is profoundly explanatory, giving context to the monolithic relevance to "money," and all things attendant thereto. The nexus between money and man's decision to serve or reject God are entirely self evident and established by Him alone! The wisdom of God is evidenced here as men usually use "money" to "finance" sinful conduct, particularly as an ongoing course.

In short, we should accept this liberty to discuss openly what God, himself declares to be the very genesis of ALL evil. I believe this is about as religious, as a subject matter for discussion, it could ever get.

Thanks for allowing me to share my thoughts, I hope you do the same.

What is your opinion of capitalism?