Jesus Christ: Liberal or Conservative?

[RedConMan]

Is the J-Man a liberal or conservative? Cast your votes, friends.

I voted Conservative. I think he'd fit in between Conservative and Independent, but slightly closer to Conservative. There'd be no doubt about it, he is more conservative than a lot of people on social issues. But he wouldn't support all the wars and military, even though we have no choice but to protect ourselves. Here is where liberals think he is a liberal, he gave to others. Yes, he did, he scrubbed his followers feet even though he knew they snickered about him and turned on him. But here's the difference, liberals want to force assistance to the needy by taxes, God gave us free will, we can assist autonomously. Jesus assisted autonomously. I don't think he's power hungry, he seems like a pretty down to earth guy. 

But on the military thing, we have no choice but to stand up against the baddies and protect our freedom, I do believe there is a possibility for a gray area, but I'm not a preist, I'm not even a big Jesus freak, but I do worship him and admire him.

It was hard to vote between Conservative or Independent, but I think the free-will is what puts him a little more under the conservative list.

You can vote whatever you want, but I ask you to not vote 'Conservative' just because you are conservative. Use what you know about him as you vote please. I voted conservative, mostly because of the social aspect.

There is no way to know for sure, the only way you could find out is by getting an answer straight from him. And I think Jesus has bigger things to worry about than American politics lol.

[supsalemgr]

Is the J-Man a liberal or conservative? Cast your votes, friends.

I voted Conservative. I think he'd fit in between Conservative and Independent, but slightly closer to Conservative. There'd be no doubt about it, he is more conservative than a lot of people on social issues. But he wouldn't support all the wars and military, even though we have no choice but to protect ourselves. Here is where liberals think he is a liberal, he gave to others. Yes, he did, he scrubbed his followers feet even though he knew they snickered about him and turned on him. But here's the difference, liberals want to force assistance to the needy by taxes, God gave us free will, we can assist autonomously. Jesus assisted autonomously. I don't think he's power hungry, he seems like a pretty down to earth guy. 

But on the military thing, we have no choice but to stand up against the baddies and protect our freedom, I do believe there is a possibility for a gray area, but I'm not a preist, I'm not even a big Jesus freak, but I do worship him and admire him.

It was hard to vote between Conservative or Independent, but I think the free-will is what puts him a little more under the conservative list.

You can vote whatever you want, but I ask you to not vote 'Conservative' just because you are conservative. Use what you know about him as you vote please. I voted conservative, mostly because of the social aspect.

There is no way to know for sure, the only way you could find out is by getting an answer straight from him. And I think Jesus has bigger things to worry about than American politics lol.

I voted "no idea" as I believe your last paragraph sums up Christ's position. His love is for each individual and that relationship is very personal. Each individual has his/her own concept of Christ. As with much more in the scriptures one can form different interpretations to support their own beliefs.

[walkstall]

I voted "no idea" as I believe your last paragraph sums up Christ's position. His love is for each individual and that relationship is very personal. Each individual has his/her own concept of Christ. As with much more in the scriptures one can form different interpretations to support their own beliefs.

I am amused myself when people try and pigeon hole Christ.  why must he have a label? 

[RedConMan]

I am amused myself when people try and pigeon hole Christ.  why must he have a label?

This is not meant to label Christ in anyway. It's more like, if Jesus was around in physical forum today, where would he fit in more? Jesus isn't conservative, Jesus is Jesus. Like I said, he probably has bigger things on his mind then American politics.

[kroz]

Dan 2:21
"It is He who changes the times and the epochs;
He removes kings and establishes kings;
He gives wisdom to wise men
And knowledge to men of understanding.

He is Sovereign over His creation and therefore does not fit into any political category.

Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's."  .... meaning, pay your taxes.

We are told repeatedly to submit to our authorities (government)....... regardless of our opinions.

We are also told that "all things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to His purposes."  .......  that means that we should not fear our circumstances... for He is in control.

Therefore, your question is totally irrelevant.  It doesn't matter what we think.  God's WILL will be done.   

Truth is...... God raised up Obama for HIS purposes.

[walkstall]

Dan 2:21
"It is He who changes the times and the epochs;
He removes kings and establishes kings;
He gives wisdom to wise men
And knowledge to men of understanding.

He is Sovereign over His creation and therefore does not fit into any political category.

Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's."  .... meaning, pay your taxes.

We are told repeatedly to submit to our authorities (government)....... regardless of our opinions.

We are also told that "all things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to His purposes."  .......  that means that we should not fear our circumstances... for He is in control.

Therefore, your question is totally irrelevant.  It doesn't matter what we think.  God's WILL will be done.   

Truth is...... God raised up Obama for HIS purposes.

So are you saying b o does not have a free will.   That God made him the asshole he is today. 

I don't buy that even for a minute. 

[kroz]

So are you saying b o does not have a free will.   That God made him the asshole he is today. 

I don't buy that even for a minute.

That is NOT what I said.  You read too much into my post.

Obama does have a free will as we all do.  But God opens doors and closes doors for His purposes.

For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I raised you up, to demonstrate My power in you and that My name might be proclaimed throughout the whole earth."  Romans 9: 17

Now you tell me, did Pharaoh have a free will?

[walkstall]

That is NOT what I said.  You read too much into my post.

Obama does have a free will as we all do.  But God opens doors and closes doors for His purposes.

For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I raised you up, to demonstrate My power in you and that My name might be proclaimed throughout the whole earth."  Romans 9: 17

Now you tell me, did Pharaoh have a free will?

This is now not then!  b o is not Pharaoh.  I don't blame god for everything.   

[kroz]

This is now not then!  b o is not Pharaoh.  I don't blame god for everything. 

God is the same.... yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

Pharaoh was a leader raised up by God for HIS purposes.  God is still in control today.  Aren't we glad?! 

[walkstall]

God is the same.... yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

Pharaoh was a leader raised up by God for HIS purposes.  God is still in control today.  Aren't we glad?! 

So you don't believe God keeps evolving even to this day?

[kroz]

So you don't believe God keeps evolving even to this day?

No, not at all.  The Bible clearly teaches that God is unchanging in His nature and attributes.

He is omnipotent (all powerful), omniscient (all knowing) and omnipresent (everywhere).  How do you evolve from there?

By His very word all things are held together.  He is sovereign over His creation.  .... that includes you and me!   He knows the number of hairs on our head (depleting as they are) and numbers our days!   

[walkstall]

No, not at all.  The Bible clearly teaches that God is unchanging in His nature and attributes.

He is omnipotent (all powerful), omniscient (all knowing) and omnipresent (everywhere).  By His very word all things are held together.  He is sovereign over His creation.  .... that includes you and me!   He knows the number of hairs on our head (depleting as they are) and numbers our days!    How do you evolve from there?

Like all things.   Over what we call time. 

[kroz]

Like all things.   Over what we call time.

God exists outside of time.  He created time, space and matter for us.  They are all elements of His creation.  Don't you know He has a lot of fun watching us "discover" things?   

In truth it is impossible for us to comprehend an infinite God with our finite minds.

Decades ago when I taught Bible to middle school kids I used to draw a circle.  On the circumference of the circle I plotted historical events chronologically.   Then I put a dot in the center of the circle.  The dot represented God's proximity to our history.  Since God resides outside of time, He was/is the same distance from all points in history.  He doesn't reside on our time line.  It was a new concept for them but they grasped the point.

[walkstall]

God exists outside of time.  He created time, space and matter for us.  They are all elements of His creation.  Don't you know He has a lot of fun watching us "discover" things?   

In truth it is impossible for us to comprehend an infinite God with our finite minds.

Decades ago when I taught Bible to middle school kids I used to draw a circle.  On the circumference of the circle I plotted historical events chronologically.   Then I put a dot in the center of the circle.  The dot represented God's proximity to our history.  Since God resides outside of time, He was/is the same distance from all points in history.  He doesn't reside on our time line.  It was a new concept for them but they grasped the point.

That my satisfy kids and even most adults.  But for me there will always have to be a beginning even for God.   For me God must be  evolving or there would be no need to create heaven and earth. 

[RedConMan]

Well if the government is hurting our bill of rights, that is different. We legally don't have to obey them then. God also doesn't want us following a law that would ever hurt our freedom of religious belief, or something to hurt Christians.

@Walkstall a way I like to explain to my little brother and cousins, is like God to us, is like us to monkeys. They know we're here but they can't comprehend outer-space, government, money, math, history, etc. Just because God is a being beyond our comprehension, doesn't mean he doesn't exist. We are not that smart, to be honest.