Jesus Christ: Liberal or Conservative?

[kroz]

That my satisfy kids and even most adults.  But for me there will always have to be a beginning even for God.   For me God must be  evolving or there would be no need to create heaven and earth.

Why do you assume He NEEDED to create heaven and earth?

He is the Creator and we are merely elements of His creation.  While we reside on this earth we will be incapable of understanding the many facets of God.  He created us with limitations..... for His purpose.  It is not for us to second guess Him or define Him.  He just IS.   He is the great "I AM".  That is how He defined Himself to Moses.

Way back when we first came out with the "Big Bang" theory of creation I couldn't help but chuckle.  It is so much in line with the Scriptural account of creation.  In the Beginning God spoke everything into existence.  From our perspective that might well look like a sudden explosion of "matter".  It was His spoken Word that created things.

Then the Gospel of John tells us...  In the Beginning was the Word.  The Word was with God and the Word was God........ and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.  (Jesus Christ)

...... now THOSE are difficult things for us to grasp.  That is one of the many reasons they call it FAITH.   

[walkstall]

Why do you assume He NEEDED to create heaven and earth?

He is the Creator and we are merely elements of His creation.  While we reside on this earth we will be incapable of understanding the many facets of God.  He created us with limitations..... for His purpose.  It is not for us to second guess Him or define Him.  He just IS.   He is the great "I AM".  That is how He defined Himself to Moses.

Way back when we first came out with the "Big Bang" theory of creation I couldn't help but chuckle.  It is so much in line with the Scriptural account of creation.  In the Beginning God spoke everything into existence.  From our perspective that might well look like a sudden explosion of "matter".  It was His spoken Word that created things.

Then the Gospel of John tells us...  In the Beginning was the Word.  The Word was with God and the Word was God........ and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.  (Jesus Christ)

...... now THOSE are difficult things for us to grasp.  That is one of the many reasons they call it FAITH.   

I did not assume He NEEDED to create heaven and earth, he did.

[walkstall]

Well if the government is hurting our bill of rights, that is different. We legally don't have to obey them then. God also doesn't want us following a law that would ever hurt our freedom of religious belief, or something to hurt Christians.

@Walkstall a way I like to explain to my little brother and cousins, is like God to us, is like us to monkeys. They know we're here but they can't comprehend outer-space, government, money, math, history, etc. Just because God is a being beyond our comprehension, doesn't mean he doesn't exist. We are not that smart, to be honest.

Just because God is a being beyond our comprehension

God is not beyond my comprehension.

doesn't mean he doesn't exist

I do not say he doesn't exist.

We are not that smart, to be honest.

Trust me I have been on earth a lot longer then you have, I know that.      

[kroz]

I did not assume He NEEDED to create heaven and earth, he did.

Okay, that was just the way you worded it.  If that is not what you really meant, I understand.  You are right when you say "He did"..... do it.  That is really all that matters.

[walkstall]

Okay, that was just the way you worded it.  If that is not what you really meant, I understand.  You are right when you say "He did"..... do it.  That is really all that matters.

I have and always will be a person that asks WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY.  I know it drives people nuts.  But at my age I don't have much time left to learn all I can. 

[kroz]

I have and always will be a person that asks WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY.  I know it drives people nuts.  But at my age I don't have much time left to learn all I can.

My best guess as to WHY He created us is that He desired a relationship that brought Him glory and honor.

I am reminded of when I was a kid and had an ant farm between two panes of glass.  It was fascinating to me to watch these tiny creatures instinctively do the things they were created to do.  They were utterly dependent upon me for sustenance but they did not realize it.

Scripture tells us that God's eye is on the sparrow.  How much more important am I to God than the sparrow?  Infinitely.  ..... because I was created in His image.  And I will live with Him in eternity.

What an utterly amazing God we have!   

[RedConMan]

God is not beyond my comprehension.
I do not say he doesn't exist.
Trust me I have been on earth a lot longer then you have, I know that.      

Well if we are that smart, we wouldn't have all these problems on Earth going on, would we?

[walkstall]

Well if we are that smart, we wouldn't have all these problems on Earth going on, would we?

Yes we would.  There are more losers then winners yet on earth.

Look who stay home and did not vote and look who voted for b o in the U.S.  That's not even counting other countries.   

[RedConMan]

Maybe the Republicans are smart haha  but most of us are idiots.

We haven't conquered the stars. We've been here anywhere from 6,000 years to 2 million depending on your beliefs, and we only made it to the moon 50 years ago.

[walkstall]

Maybe the Republicans are smart haha  but most of us are idiots.

We haven't conquered the stars. We've been here anywhere from 6,000 years to 2 million depending on your beliefs, and we only made it to the moon 50 years ago.

You have to start some place.  Remember time is a man thing.   

[dadman]

I don't believe Jesus fits into the parameter of "Liberal or Conservative" ....
when he returns ... he will put down the governments of men and he will rule the world with a rod of iron

[RedConMan]

You have to start some place.  Remember time is a man thing.   

I guess, but we've been here a long time. People aren't seeming to get any smarter unfortunately.

[Solar]

I guess, but we've been here a long time. People aren't seeming to get any smarter unfortunately.

History only repeats itself because of mans willful ignorance and willingness to follow.
Emotion has a tendency to overpower commonsense as evidenced by liberalism.

[dadman]

indeed ...... Since we have accepted the technology of the atom and have rejected the sermon on the mount ..
we therefore now live in a society full of nuclear giants and ethical infants

[carlb]

Is the J-Man a liberal or conservative? Cast your votes, friends.

I voted Conservative. I think he'd fit in between Conservative and Independent, but slightly closer to Conservative. There'd be no doubt about it, he is more conservative than a lot of people on social issues. But he wouldn't support all the wars and military, even though we have no choice but to protect ourselves. Here is where liberals think he is a liberal, he gave to others. Yes, he did, he scrubbed his followers feet even though he knew they snickered about him and turned on him. But here's the difference, liberals want to force assistance to the needy by taxes, God gave us free will, we can assist autonomously. Jesus assisted autonomously. I don't think he's power hungry, he seems like a pretty down to earth guy. 

But on the military thing, we have no choice but to stand up against the baddies and protect our freedom, I do believe there is a possibility for a gray area, but I'm not a preist, I'm not even a big Jesus freak, but I do worship him and admire him.

It was hard to vote between Conservative or Independent, but I think the free-will is what puts him a little more under the conservative list.

You can vote whatever you want, but I ask you to not vote 'Conservative' just because you are conservative. Use what you know about him as you vote please. I voted conservative, mostly because of the social aspect.

There is no way to know for sure, the only way you could find out is by getting an answer straight from him. And I think Jesus has bigger things to worry about than American politics lol.

What attributes of liberalism would your Lord and Saviour choose over the ideals of American Conservatism?

NONE!

A wise man's heart leans to the right, but a fool's heart to the left -- God