Is Obama THE Antichrist?

Started by Yawn, April 03, 2013, 06:50:04 PM

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daidalos

Quote from: Yawn on April 03, 2013, 06:50:04 PM
He certainly is in the spirit of AN Antichrist, but he is not THE Antichrist prophesied.


Oh yeah.... Global Warming IS a hoax.

Global warming is not a hoax, it is rather a lie used to further a certain leftist political agenda.

However that said, in answer to your Q, no yawn he is not THE antichrist.

Is he an anti-christ, or rather of a type of anti-christ, most assuredly he is.

But no, he's not THE antichrist the apostle John wrote about while on patmos.
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Quote from: daidalos on May 29, 2013, 01:12:46 PM


Is he an anti-christ, or rather of a type of anti-christ, most assuredly he is.

But no, he's not THE antichrist the apostle John wrote about while on patmos.

That's exactly what I said. WEEKS AGO. Glad we agree though.

Solar

Quote from: daidalos on May 29, 2013, 01:12:46 PM
Global warming is not a hoax, it is rather a lie used to further a certain leftist political agenda.

However that said, in answer to your Q, no yawn he is not THE antichrist.

Is he an anti-christ, or rather of a type of anti-christ, most assuredly he is.

But no, he's not THE antichrist the apostle John wrote about while on patmos.
I agree, he is definitely our anti Christ here in the U.S..
I believe when he does come though, he will be somehow attached to the UN.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on May 27, 2013, 12:45:55 PM
I usually do not comment on religeous matters, but this post caught my attention. If one reads both the Old And New testaments God is portrayed quite differently. In the Old the writings are of a vengeful God in some instances. However, in the New, he is portayed as a totally loving God. God did not change, the views of the authors are different.

Well put, and thank you for doing so. Reading the King James Bible has always been like reading two different books, with two different outlooks. The OT is doom and gloom, while the NT is sweetness and light.

PEOPLE wrote the Bible.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on May 27, 2013, 12:45:55 PM
I usually do not comment on religeous matters, but this post caught my attention. If one reads both the Old And New testaments God is portrayed quite differently. In the Old the writings are of a vengeful God in some instances. However, in the New, he is portayed as a totally loving God. God did not change, the views of the authors are different.

That's actually a pretty gross mischaracterization that smacks of someone seeing what he wants to see.  Check out how many times John the Baptist, Jesus, and Paul warn about God's "coming wrath" in the New Testament.

Consider the reasons that God judges his people in the Old Testament--not just for religious impurity, but for the neglect of the poor, the disenfranchised, the widow, the orphan, and the alien.  He cares about these people and he expects his representatives to treat them as he would.

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Quote from: TboneAgain on April 03, 2013, 10:44:19 PM
Politics aside, when one in four surveyed Americans claim that they believe or might believe that the president of the United States is the anti-Christ...

Houston, we have a problem...

It makes me recall the words... "The best argument against democracy is a conversation with the average voter"

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Quote from: MFA on June 22, 2013, 05:59:15 PM
That's actually a pretty gross mischaracterization that smacks of someone seeing what he wants to see.  Check out how many times John the Baptist, Jesus, and Paul warn about God's "coming wrath" in the New Testament.

Consider the reasons that God judges his people in the Old Testament--not just for religious impurity, but for the neglect of the poor, the disenfranchised, the widow, the orphan, and the alien.  He cares about these people and he expects his representatives to treat them as he would.

I'm no Biblical scholar, but the way I see it, God's wrath is real; Jesus came to show us, (in person), the loving side.

I'm a sinner and I know it. Jesus came to tell me not to give up. I deserve to be punished, and He took it for me. For that, I am forever humbled. I'll never be perfect, but I will always remember what Jesus did for me.

As far as the Bible is concerned, I think that part of the message, is that humans will mess things up if given the opportunity; that would include the writing of the Bible. The message is there, but so is the message that the human filter will slightly alter things to suit a purpose.

Yawn

I agree with you here. They are the SAME God.  The only difference is that "Jesus" came to fulfill a specific mission.  When He returns, the world will again see the "OT" God. He says He will rule "with a rod of iron."  The God of the OT was a compassionate and merciful God.


Quote from: MFA on June 22, 2013, 05:59:15 PM
That's actually a pretty gross mischaracterization that smacks of someone seeing what he wants to see.  Check out how many times John the Baptist, Jesus, and Paul warn about God's "coming wrath" in the New Testament.

Consider the reasons that God judges his people in the Old Testament--not just for religious impurity, but for the neglect of the poor, the disenfranchised, the widow, the orphan, and the alien.  He cares about these people and he expects his representatives to treat them as he would.

daidalos

Quote from: Yawn on April 03, 2013, 06:50:04 PM
He certainly is in the spirit of AN Antichrist, but he is not THE Antichrist prophesied.


Oh yeah.... Global Warming IS a hoax.

It is a hoax.

Scientifically, the earth is actually entering a phase of global cooling.

In large part, because our parent star has calmed down and is ending it's 11 year solar storm cycle.

See:
QuoteTo The Horror Of Global Warming Alarmists, Global Cooling Is Here

At first the current stall out of global warming was due to the ocean cycles turning back to cold. But something much more ominous has developed over this period. Sunspots run in 11 year short term cycles, with longer cyclical trends of 90 and even 200 years. The number of sunspots declined substantially in the last 11 year cycle, after flattening out over the previous 20 years. But in the current cycle, sunspot activity has collapsed. NASA's Science News report for January 8, 2013 states,

"Indeed, the sun could be on the threshold of a mini-Maunder event right now. Ongoing Solar Cycle 24 [the current short term 11 year cycle] is the weakest in more than 50 years. Moreover, there is (controversial) evidence of a long-term weakening trend in the magnetic field strength of sunspots. Matt Penn and William Livingston of the National Solar Observatory predict that by the time Solar Cycle 25 arrives, magnetic fields on the sun will be so weak that few if any sunspots will be formed. Independent lines of research involving helioseismology and surface polar fields tend to support their conclusion."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/05/26/to-the-horror-of-global-warming-alarmists-global-cooling-is-here/


But you can't tell the left who use the issue of global warming to push their own political agenda this.

Precisely because in doing so, it removes a tool from their tool box to push their socialist agenda with.

I've been telling libs for years not to worry, that mankind is less than a flea on a dogs back cosmically, that the Earth will still be here, going around it's parent star, long after everyone of us is long dead and gone.

Long after our species is gone in fact. ;)
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daidalos

Quote from: Yawn on June 23, 2013, 01:01:22 PM
I agree with you here. They are the SAME God.  The only difference is that "Jesus" came to fulfill a specific mission.  When He returns, the world will again see the "OT" God. He says He will rule "with a rod of iron."  The God of the OT was a compassionate and merciful God.

I have always wondered about that. Because in the end, all that will be left is God, the Angelic hosts and Gods people, who willing chose God.

Why is there a need to "rule with a rod of iron"?
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Yawn

Quote from: daidalos on June 26, 2013, 09:35:23 PM
I have always wondered about that. Because in the end, all that will be left is God, the Angelic hosts and Gods people, who willing chose God.

Why is there a need to "rule with a rod of iron"?

I've thought that too. People spend so much time arguing with God. In the end, HE wins. Why not just learn His Mind?

Have you read the accounts of His Return?

IF He returns the way He said (Zechariah, Malachi, Revelation) do you think the Muslims will readily accept this God? They will not. Will America's homosexual community? WHAT IF He meant what He said about ALL of the Ten Commandments? Will the Sunday Keeping/Sabbath Hating "christian" world accept THIS God? You would think so, but they will not. In fact, it is the Christian West that will battle the Returning Christ with His angels and the true saints at His return. The entire world will see Him as an alien invader.

He will bring peace at His return, but it won't come without a fight (we always wanted Him to butt out of our lives).

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Quote from: supsalemgr on May 27, 2013, 12:45:55 PM
I usually do not comment on religeous matters, but this post caught my attention. If one reads both the Old And New testaments God is portrayed quite differently. In the Old the writings are of a vengeful God in some instances. However, in the New, he is portayed as a totally loving God. God did not change, the views of the authors are different.

Unsurprisingly, the later Koran is more violent than the earlier parts.

Allah changed. God did not.

scriberichard

I'm absolutely dumbfounded that there are people (outside of psychiatric facilities, I mean) who actually believe the "antichrist" is a real entity instead of the metaphor it so obviously is.

It's scary to think people like that are allowed to run around loose, drive cars, even own weapons.

Also, folks who live in Crazytown shouldn't be allowed to vote in elections in the real world.

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Quote from: Yawn on April 03, 2013, 06:50:04 PM
He certainly is in the spirit of AN Antichrist, but he is not THE Antichrist prophesied.

That would make him too important.