Is Islam Demonic?

[red_dirt]

It also says that it is okay to own slaves (Leviticus 25:44-46) and stone homosexuals to death (Leviticus 20:13). 

Normally, when we refer to Mosaic Law in addressing the general audiences, we add the qualifier that Jesus and everything His coming entailed fulfilled the Law of Moses; that, as Christians and as a Christian nation are no longer subject to those provisions. This is not to say that we throw out everything in The Old Testament, but we don't require homosexuals to be stoned. That's Islam you are thinking about, maybe.  We acknowledge English Common Law and  blend of Anglo-Saxon and Judaic Law. Primarily, though, our main responsibility  is to uphold and abide by The Laws and Statutes of United States of America. We are guided in all things by The Word of God. It is not accurate to portray today's Christian as going around advocating a return to the Law of Moses. Gary North did that, once, in a rare moment of impatience. He hasn't lived that down.

If we don't add that qualifier, the fact that Jesus fulfilled the Laws of Moses, we are not  likely to gain much credibility in the religious discussions with Christians. The same goes for professed disbelief in the Holy Spirit, or in the Spirit Kingdom.  I don't pretend to be a theology student. Don't last long in those debates. But I will say I am qualified to discuss the topic.

Dependent upon the aims, it is sometimes better to quit while one is ahead.

Back to the discussion of the spirit world.  Scientists have discerned ten dimensions in the world.... we actually see only three of those.

What is this?  I acknowledge the human spirit and I acknowledge The Holy Spirit.
When we talk about people who are "mean spirited," that, I think, is human spirit.
I don't know how we are supposed to think about innocent children, Moslem or otherwise,
who are taught from the start to hate and kill. That is a spirit that has been implanted.
I'm talking about ISIS. Blood lust with no real heart.

I also acknowledge what are called "familiar" spirits. This is the occult, witchcraft,
the induced state. No point denying that they are real and we have been cautioned.

What are these dimensions of which you speak, Kroz?

[kroz]

The Earth as described in Genesis...

I don't know where you get your picture, but it is nothing I have seen before.

In Genesis, we are told that the waters were separated by an expanse of heaven... the waters below the heavens were called seas...v.10.   The waters above the expanse of heaven were not named.   The birds flew in the expanse called heaven (between the waters)...v.20.

Do you refute anything I posted in response to your original post?

[kroz]

Normally, when we refer to Mosaic Law in addressing the general audiences, we add the qualifier that Jesus and everything His coming entailed fulfilled the Law of Moses; that, as Christians and as a Christian nation are no longer subject to those provisions. This is not to say that we throw out everything in The Old Testament, but we don't require homosexuals to be stoned. That's Islam you are thinking about, maybe.  We acknowledge English Common Law and  blend of Anglo-Saxon and Judaic Law. Primarily, though, our main responsibility  is to uphold and abide by The Laws and Statutes of United States of America. We are guided in all things by The Word of God. It is not accurate to portray today's Christian as going around advocating a return to the Law of Moses. Gary North did that, once, in a rare moment of impatience. He hasn't lived that down.

If we don't add that qualifier, the fact that Jesus fulfilled the Laws of Moses, we are not  likely to gain much credibility in the religious discussions with Christians. The same goes for professed disbelief in the Holy Spirit, or in the Spirit Kingdom.  I don't pretend to be a theology student. Don't last long in those debates. But I will say I am qualified to discuss the topic.

Dependent upon the aims, it is sometimes better to quit while one is ahead.

What is this?  I acknowledge the human spirit and I acknowledge The Holy Spirit.
When we talk about people who are "mean spirited," that, I think, is human spirit.
I don't know how we are supposed to think about innocent children, Moslem or otherwise,
who are taught from the start to hate and kill. That is a spirit that has been implanted.
I'm talking about ISIS. Blood lust with no real heart.

I also acknowledge what are called "familiar" spirits. This is the occult, witchcraft,
the induced state. No point denying that they are real and we have been cautioned.

What are these dimensions of which you speak, Kroz?

You make an excellent point with regard to the law, red_dirt.  We no longer live under the law of Moses although it did serve as a guideline for our laws at the Foundation of this Nation.   That is why the Ten Commandments are carved on the walls of the Supreme Court.  The Court building was built long after our founding, but all of our government buildings are replete with references to the Scriptures.

Jesus did fulfill the Law as you pointed out.... and thereby put us under a covenant of Grace.


The dimensions of which I posted have nothing to do with spirits.   They are simply dimensions in which we cannot observe activity or motion...... as we do with the three dimensions we normally refer to as spacial..... height, width, depth.  The fourth dimension is time.  Beyond that, there could be as many as an additional six or seven dimensions.  A lot of this is still theoretical, but cutting edge physics.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/13070896/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/physicists-probe-fifth-dimension/

[red_dirt]

Is Islam demonic?   You tell me.

http://www.layman.org/persecution-in-middle-east-threatens-to-erase-christianity-from-the-region/

[kroz]

Is Islam demonic?   You tell me.

http://www.layman.org/persecution-in-middle-east-threatens-to-erase-christianity-from-the-region/

Islam is from the satanic side.  Demons are Satan's warriors.

So, yes, Islam is demonic in nature.

[red_dirt]

http://islamtodayoregon.blogspot.com/

Obama saw it coming 16 months ago.

[kroz]

http://islamtodayoregon.blogspot.com/

Obama saw it coming 16 months ago.

Yes, we just keep in mind which side of the fence Obama sits!   

[red_dirt]

Yes, we just keep in mind which side of the fence Obama sits!   

Here are two good indicators:

https://spiritualabusesanctuary.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/brigitte-gabriel-radical-islam-the-plan-to-destroy-america-from-within-infiltration/

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/what-obama-and-i-learned-at-columbia-how-to-destroy-america-from-within/

What's happened to David Alan Root? i heard he just disappeared.

[red_dirt]

http://www.rightsidenews.com/2015052635881/editorial/rsn-pick-of-the-day/revitalizing-detroit-with-50-000-syrian-refugees.html

Here is a third.

[red_dirt]

I just read a New Yorker article, "Big Brothers, Where is the Muslim Brotherhood leading Egypt?" by Peter Hessler. January 14, 2013. 
Morsi was in power. The Muslim Brotherhood was profiled and described.

What are we thinking allowing the Muslim Brotherhood influence over our affairs, even operating within our nation and institutions?  It defies explanation.

[Darth Fife]

I don't know where you get your picture, but it is nothing I have seen before.

In Genesis, we are told that the waters were separated by an expanse of heaven... the waters below the heavens were called seas...v.10.   The waters above the expanse of heaven were not named.   The birds flew in the expanse called heaven (between the waters)...v.20.

Do you refute anything I posted in response to your original post?

That drawing is a fairly ubiquitous representation of the "World" as depicted in the Bible. I know it is common for Bible apologists to try and rewrite history and make irrational and illogical claims that the Bible doesn't describe a flat-Earth, but nearly 3000 or so years of human history would indicate otherwise.

In fact people who claim the Earth wasn't flat were burned at the stake as heretics. 

I've refuted, pretty much everything in your response - you've just been ignoring it.

[Solar]

That drawing is a fairly ubiquitous representation of the "World" as depicted in the Bible. I know it is common for Bible apologists to try and rewrite history and make irrational and illogical claims that the Bible doesn't describe a flat-Earth, but nearly 3000 or so years of human history would indicate otherwise.

In fact people who claim the Earth wasn't flat were burned at the stake as heretics. 

I've refuted, pretty much everything in your response - you've just been ignoring it.

Passages of the Bible which refer to a solid firmament (Gen. 1:6-20.
Firmament meaning celestial sphere, which is derived from spheric, meaning ball-shaped.

Another verse that indicates the spherical nature of our planet is Job 26:10. This verse teaches that God has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters at the boundary of light and darkness.
https://answersingenesis.org/answers/books/taking-back-astronomy/the-universe-confirms-the-bible/

[carlb]

I guess that to answer that question (sans poll) one would first have to figure out whether or not they believe in "demons".

I don't, so the poll would be useless to me.

But THEY believe in you!

"Satan's greatest lie: Convincing the world he doesn't exist."

[carlb]

The Earth as described in Genesis...

WRONG! That's how some MAN intrepreted the revelation of Genesis. Elsewhere He (God) describes the earth as a "circle" that "HANGS ON NOTHING"  Of course we mortals couldn't fthom those scriptures until SPACE TRAVEL revealed the truth of this REVELATION.

[kroz]

I enjoy your posts, carib....   I don't think you have said a single thing with which I disagree!