Interesting question...

Started by MFA, January 12, 2013, 01:44:42 PM

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MFA

...from a Christian point of view, before Creation, was God "holy"?

walkstall

Quote from: MFA on January 12, 2013, 01:44:42 PM
...from a Christian point of view, before Creation, was God "holy"?

I would say yes LOL  If he was always God Before and will be after time.  Someone had to keep the angels in check.  Is satan God alter ego?
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MFA


walkstall

Quote from: MFA on January 12, 2013, 02:32:37 PM
But what does "holy" mean?

What ever you would like it to mean.


Man made time.   In Gods time, there was no night or day.  Or why (English translation) did he say let there be light?
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MFA

Quote from: walkstall on January 12, 2013, 02:49:48 PM
What ever you would like it to mean.

I can make it mean "Cuban cigar"?  God is a Cuban cigar?

Yawn

Quote from: walkstall on January 12, 2013, 02:49:48 PM
What ever you would like it to mean.


Man made time.   In Gods time, there was no night or day.  Or why (English translation) did he say let there be light?

He was speaking of light over the face of the earth. He said, befoire this, darkness covered the face of the earth Smoke and clouds covert the earth--enough that it wasw constantly dark.

MFA

Quote from: Yawn on January 12, 2013, 03:04:12 PM
He was speaking of light over the face of the earth. He said, befoire this, darkness covered the face of the earth Smoke and clouds covert the earth--enough that it wasw constantly dark.

If you read Genesis 1 literally, there was no "face of the earth."  God created light before he separated the waters, dividing it by "the firmament" and before the lower waters separated to form dry land.  The darkness was "over the surface of the deep," not over the "face of the earth."

Yawn

The earth as a PLANET. Yes it was water covered.

THE POINT IS, God did NOT create light in this verse. He was exposing the surface of the earth to light.

You seem to argue just to argue rather than come to the truth.

walkstall

Quote from: MFA on January 12, 2013, 02:54:58 PM
I can make it mean "Cuban cigar"?  God is a Cuban cigar?

IF you like.  God only ask me to believe in him.  If there is no beginning or no end for God.  Then time was make for man by man, in doing so it has changed more than once even in my lifetime.
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

MFA

Quote from: Yawn on January 12, 2013, 03:19:09 PM
The earth as a PLANET. Yes it was water covered.

THE POINT IS, God did NOT create light in this verse. He was exposing the surface of the earth to light.

You seem to argue just to argue rather than come to the truth.

When God said, "Let there be light," there was light.  So you're saying that God did not "create light" at this point; that he was exposing an existing earth to light.

Guess what?  That's a possible interpretation.

It's certainly not the only one.  The Bible does not say what you say it does.  You are adding to it to clarify your interpretation.

Just want to clear that up...

Do you have a suggestion for the original question?  Do you have a possible definition for what "holiness" is or means?

MFA

Quote from: walkstall on January 12, 2013, 03:20:57 PM
IF you like.  God only ask me to believe in him.  If there is no beginning or no end for God.  Then time was make for man by man, in doing so it has changed more than once even in my lifetime.

See, I think "holy" actually means something significant, especially since God uses the word to describe himself.

walkstall

Quote from: MFA on January 12, 2013, 03:44:17 PM
See, I think "holy" actually means something significant, especially since God uses the word to describe himself.

Very welll could be.  I think it was a way for God to communicating with man to describe himself.   Same as "I am Alpha and Omega", the beginning and the end.  I don't think man was able to communicate with God at his level.
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marv

Quote from: MFA on January 12, 2013, 03:14:00 PM
If you read Genesis 1 literally, there was no "face of the earth."  God created light before he separated the waters, dividing it by "the firmament" and before the lower waters separated to form dry land.  The darkness was "over the surface of the deep," not over the "face of the earth."

Did this also include Mars or Venus, or any other planet even in any other stellar system?

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kramarat

Words, (all words), including the word "Holy", are for our benefit; not for God's.

Words are necessary to help us to comprehend something that we are incapable of comprehending.

So no. In my opinion, God was not Holy before the creation of man.

walkstall

Quote from: kramarat on January 13, 2013, 01:23:35 PM
Words, (all words), including the word "Holy", are for our benefit; not for God's.

Words are necessary to help us to comprehend something that we are incapable of comprehending.

So no. In my opinion, God was not Holy before the creation of man.

So God did not have to tell the angels in heaven he was number one.   It was just for the creation of man that God became Holy.   
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."