Interesting question...

RV · December 28, 2020, 07:50:07 PM

Quote from: MFA on January 12, 2013, 02:32:37 PM
But what does "holy" mean?

The word as it is used in scripture referring to God means that He is set aside, righteous, sinless, perfect, spotless and without blemish. The word as it is used in scripture to refer to believers means that the believer is set aside and blameless. Hell is reserved for the devil, his demons and those who have rejected Jesus. Heaven is reserved for the angels (God's servants) and those who have accepted Jesus.

RV · January 09, 2021, 12:33:56 PM

Quote from: walkstall on January 13, 2013, 06:32:01 PM
Hmm....My understand, there are more names for Satan in the Bible than for anyone else except Jesus. There are over 40 names for him/it in the New King James Version of the Bible. I am sure there more as we find more data.

i am sure there more then one way into the kingdom of God. But that's just my way of thinking.

So, apparently you believe the Bible is no more valid than the phonebook? Jesus Himself said that HE was the way, the truth and the life and that NO MAN could come to the Father, (God), except through Him. This would completely nullify and go against your theory that there is more than one way into the kingdom of God. That is unless you don't believe that Jesus was the Son of God or that He was somehow a liar...

Solar · January 09, 2021, 12:46:18 PM

Quote from: RV on January 09, 2021, 12:33:56 PM
So, apparently you believe the Bible is no more valid than the phonebook? Jesus Himself said that HE was the way, the truth and the life and that NO MAN could come to the Father, (God), except through Him. This would completely nullify and go against your theory that there is more than one way into the kingdom of God. That is unless you don't believe that Jesus was the Son of God or that He was somehow a liar...

That's not what he said! Like Walks, the belief in God is sufficient for his blessing. I know, I talk to God all day long and his wisdom is beyond amazing.
Because of God, I've truly led a blessed life and all my accomplishments is because of Gods will.

RV · January 09, 2021, 02:26:55 PM

Quote from: Solar on January 09, 2021, 12:46:18 PM
That's not what he said! Like Walks, the belief in God is sufficient for his blessing. I know, I talk to God all day long and his wisdom is beyond amazing.
Because of God, I've truly led a blessed life and all my accomplishments is because of Gods will.

The devil and his demons "believe in God", are they receiving God's blessings too?

Solar · January 09, 2021, 02:48:25 PM

Quote from: RV on January 09, 2021, 02:26:55 PM
The devil and his demons "believe in God", are they receiving God's blessings too?

So it's OK to disparage others beliefs, but Christianity is off the table? Not very Christian of you!

RV · January 10, 2021, 09:18:02 AM

Quote from: Solar on January 09, 2021, 02:48:25 PM
So it's OK to disparage others beliefs, but Christianity is off the table? Not very Christian of you!

I haven't "disparaged" anyone but, there is truth based on God's word and then there are "beliefs". Christians are light in the darkness regardless what the enemy may falsely accuse us of. You are correct he DIDN'T exactly say that the Bible was as valid as the telephone book however, claiming that all paths lead to God is contrary and exactly opposite of what the Bible says. In essence, he was saying that the Bible is invalid. This is the same argument that Democrats and liberals try to claim about the Constitution.

Solar · January 10, 2021, 09:40:56 AM

Quote from: RV on January 10, 2021, 09:18:02 AM
I haven't "disparaged" anyone but, there is truth based on God's word and then there are "beliefs". Christians are light in the darkness regardless what the enemy may falsely accuse us of. You are correct he DIDN'T exactly say that the Bible was as valid as the telephone book however, claiming that all paths lead to God is contrary and exactly opposite of what the Bible says. In essence, he was saying that the Bible is invalid. This is the same argument that Democrats and liberals try to claim about the Constitution.

Yes you did! Go back and read it again!

RV · January 10, 2021, 11:32:20 AM

Quote from: Solar on January 10, 2021, 09:40:56 AM
Yes you did! Go back and read it again!

You and I will have to agree to disagree, I read my comments again and I cannot see anywhere that I "disparaged" anyone. I have to be truthful with everyone and I cannot lie to them to make them feel good. I quoted the Bible, if that is what you believe is "disparaging" then as I said, we will have to agree to disagree. I have an obligation and a duty to tell everyone the truth, not what they want to hear. I believe that truth IS uplifting rather than "disparaging".

Solar · January 10, 2021, 12:33:21 PM

Quote from: RV on January 10, 2021, 11:32:20 AM
You and I will have to agree to disagree, I read my comments again and I cannot see anywhere that I "disparaged" anyone. I have to be truthful with everyone and I cannot lie to them to make them feel good. I quoted the Bible, if that is what you believe is "disparaging" then as I said, we will have to agree to disagree. I have an obligation and a duty to tell everyone the truth, not what they want to hear. I believe that truth IS uplifting rather than "disparaging".

I won't play this stupid game with you!
You pulled up a 7 year old thread for the sole purpose of insulting my Admins faith: "So, apparently you believe the Bible is no more valid than the phonebook?"
Talk about fuckin insulting!
It was extremely uncalled for, that was a disparaging comment, one I won't let go! Look up the word disparaging and tell me it doesn't fit!

RV · January 10, 2021, 12:48:04 PM

Quote from: Solar on January 10, 2021, 12:33:21 PM
I won't play this stupid game with you!
You pulled up a 7 year old thread for the sole purpose of insulting my Admins faith: "So, apparently you believe the Bible is no more valid than the phonebook?"
Talk about fuckin insulting!
It was extremely uncalled for, that was a disparaging comment, one I won't let go! Look up the word disparaging and tell me it doesn't fit!

I don't consider eternity a "game". I also don't consider that notifying someone that their "belief" is contrary to scripture as an "insult". I also do not think that lying to someone is a "loving" thing to do. I did NOT call him any names, did NOT attack his mental IQ nor did I say anything negative about his denomination. As I said before and will say again, we agree to disagree.

You however DID attack my Christianity. You DID make a comment that only God Himself knows and only He can judge. You DID "disparage" me. So, regardless of what YOU may say, think, feel or do, unlike you, I made NO "disparaging comment" to anyone.

Solar · January 10, 2021, 01:03:42 PM

Quote from: RV on January 10, 2021, 12:48:04 PM
I don't consider eternity a "game". I also don't consider that notifying someone that their "belief" is contrary to scripture as an "insult". I also do not think that lying to someone is a "loving" thing to do. I did NOT call him any names, did NOT attack his mental IQ nor did I say anything negative about his denomination. As I said before and will say again, we agree to disagree.

You however DID attack my Christianity. You DID make a comment that only God Himself knows and only He can judge. You DID "disparage" me. So, regardless of what YOU may say, think, feel or do, unlike you, I made NO "disparaging comment" to anyone.

Deal with it ass hole! You went out of your way to start an argument on this forum with my Admin, a ban-able offense!
No one gives a fuck about your "Feelings", so don't try and turn this shit back on me, this is all your doing!

walkstall · January 10, 2021, 01:56:08 PM

Quote from: RV on January 10, 2021, 11:32:20 AM
You and I will have to agree to disagree, I read my comments again and I cannot see anywhere that I "disparaged" anyone. I have to be truthful with everyone and I cannot lie to them to make them feel good. I quoted the Bible, if that is what you believe is "disparaging" then as I said, we will have to agree to disagree. I have an obligation and a duty to tell everyone the truth, not what they want to hear. I believe that truth IS uplifting rather than "disparaging".

I love the saying You can be so godly as a person that your no dam earthly good.

Do NOT put words into my mouth. Out of your own mouth God will judge you as you judge others. EOM

RV · January 10, 2021, 03:24:55 PM

Quote from: walkstall on January 10, 2021, 01:56:08 PM

I love the saying You can be so godly as a person that your no dam earthly good.

Do NOT put words into my mouth. Out of your own mouth God will judge you as you judge others. EOM

Can you direct me to where that specific passage is, I couldn't find it?

walkstall · January 10, 2021, 04:57:44 PM

Quote from: RV on January 10, 2021, 03:24:55 PM
Can you direct me to where that specific passage is, I couldn't find it?

LOL Like I said don't put words in my mouth. Now when did I say it was a passage, all I said was I love the saying. You will have to look into your own heart not the good book. One does not need to see to know God is in our lives. I should have been dead more then three times in my lifetime, but God keeps me around for some reason. Like Solar, God talks to me in his own time and way. Sometime it take me day or even years to understand.