I won’t make churches conduct gay marriages

[Yawn]

The wise and all powerful lord Obama has spoken:

President Obama, in his statement hailing the Supreme Court's decision to overturn the Defense of Marriage Act, promised that he wouldn't try to force religious institutions to conduct gay marriages.     http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-i-wont-make-churches-conduct-gay-marriages/article/2532418

Be sure to thank him for his mercy!

[JustKari]

He is a liar and I don't believe a word he says.  I am sure he won't Muslim religious institutions, but Christian, I give it 8 months before he is giving speeches on "complete" marriage equality.

He will first use his bullies, the IRS.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/26/IRS-could-revoke-non-profit-for-religious-institutions

[Greystone]

Isn't it possible that the government might revoke the tax exempt statuses of religious institutions for not walking lock step with the homosexual propaganda? I can totally see a scenario unfolding where a Catholic school for example, might have a morality clause in an employment contract, prohibiting someone who is actively promoting homosexual lifestyles from being employed there, and then the government revoking a tax exempt status on this basis claiming that it is workplace discrimination, and that. So if they can't outright force religious institutions to conform to their worldview, they'll just try to crush them financially; it seems like a real possibility to me.

But back to what Obama said; when I first read it I was disgusted, because from my vantage point it seemed as though he was suggesting that he could if he wanted to, but he wouldn't, when in fact he cannot do such a thing at all. 

[MFA]

Isn't it possible that the government might revoke the tax exempt statuses of religious institutions for not walking lock step with the homosexual propaganda?

Yes, that's possible.  The Church that Christ inaugurated is not reliant on government permissions or tax exemptions.

[ReallyOrnery]

The wise and all powerful lord Obama has spoken:

Be sure to thank him for his mercy!

Yawn:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." -- First Amendment

"All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives. -- Article I, Section I, US Constitution

Obama hasn't the authority to order churches to do anything.

RO

[Troubleshooter]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." -- First Amendment

Liberals love to misunderstand it for their own purposes.

The correct interpretation (using the language of the late 18th century) is:

"Congress shall not make any law about (respecting) a religious denomination (an establishment of religion), or prohibiting free exercise of religion (thereof)."

"Congress shall not make any law about a religious denomination, or prohibiting free exercise of religion."

Liberals who have never studied linguistics keep talking about a law "establishing a state religion." But it was not the original intent (although any law creating a state religion is making a law about a religious denomination in the form of prohibiting the other denominations).

It also says nothing about separation of church and state. That is in the Communist Manifesto. It says only that the state can't molest the church.

Liberals have also tried to make Political Correctness into a state religion by pretending it is not a religion. But it was plagiarized from the Baha'i Faith.

[MatthewG]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." -- First Amendment

Liberals love to misunderstand it for their own purposes.

The correct interpretation (using the language of the late 18th century) is:

"Congress shall not make any law about (respecting) a religious denomination (an establishment of religion), or prohibiting free exercise of religion (thereof)."

"Congress shall not make any law about a religious denomination, or prohibiting free exercise of religion."

Liberals who have never studied linguistics keep talking about a law "establishing a state religion." But it was not the original intent (although any law creating a state religion is making a law about a religious denomination in the form of prohibiting the other denominations).

It also says nothing about separation of church and state. That is in the Communist Manifesto. It says only that the state can't molest the church.

Liberals have also tried to make Political Correctness into a state religion by pretending it is not a religion. But it was plagiarized from the Baha'i Faith.

If I remember correctly, it was Thomas Jefferson, who articulated in a letter to a Baptist denomination, the idea of the"wall of separation of church and state". I support the separation of church and state. I believe that no state has any right nor should it to force any church to perform a same-sex marriage ceremony. My GLBT friends may disagree and I am fine with that. There are also numerous liberal churches like mine that are happy to perform same-sex weddings. So GLBT can just come to UU churches like mine and get married there if same-sex marriage is legal in their state.