Hundreds of Mormons Leaving Church Over Same-Sex Marriage Stance

[walkstall]

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Hundreds of people are formally renouncing their membership in the Mormon church in protest over a new policy that punishes same-sex couples and their children, an attorney assisting them said.

Utah lawyer Mark Naugle, 30, whose family split with the church 15 years ago, is offering his services pro bono to those who want help with the paperwork involved in getting off the rolls — which have 15 million members.

In the week since the policy was announced, 1,700 people have contacted him, he said.

"People are fed up and just don't want their name associated with the church any more," Naugle said.

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[kroz]

I hesitate to comment on this because I consider the Mormon Church a cult.  However, even cults have their bad seeds.

The Mormons are among the most strict cults.  They are very ridged in their "rules" of faith.

[walkstall]

I hesitate to comment on this because I consider the Mormon Church a cult.  However, even cults have their bad seeds.

The Mormons are among the most strict cults.  They are very ridged in their "rules" of faith.

You could say that about most all religions of the world.

[kroz]

You could say that about most all religions of the world.

Apparently not.  There are many who embrace all kinds of biblical sins.

[walkstall]

Apparently not.  There are many who embrace all kinds of biblical sins.

They are their "rules" of faith. Not all think the same. 

[kroz]

They are their "rules" of faith. Not all think the same.

Walks, believe me, there are churches that accept any and all beliefs.  There may be one general requirement but they leave everything else loosey goosey.

[SalemCat]

No Mormon has ever threatened to KILL ME.

[kroz]

No Mormon has ever threatened to KILL ME.

Where did that come from????

[SalemCat]

Where did that come from????

Well, as a simple person, I am cool with most Religions - or lack of.

Jew, Christian, Buddist, Atheist, Mormon, these guys do not want to KILL me for my Faith - or lack of it.

Guess who does ?

[kroz]

Well, as a simple person, I am cool with most Religions - or lack of.

Jew, Christian, Buddist, Atheist, Mormon, these guys do not want to KILL me for my Faith - or lack of it.

Guess who does ?

So, life is all about self preservation?  Live and let live?  All roads lead to Nirvana?

hhmmm.....

[red_dirt]

In other words, let the left wing come in and start making new rules.  That's what is really being said.

[zewazir]

I am not LDS, but my wife is, so I do know a bit about their belief structure.  And there is a valid reasoning behind the move on the LDS church in this move to limit participation by children of same sex couples.  One of the central tenets of the LDS is that the family is the most important of human associations. They are always promoting family relations. (I almost invariably enjoy LDS pro-family commercials on TV.)

As such, the one thing the LDS do not want to do is have their religion cause division and strife within a family.  A youth who is a full member (ie: baptized) is, of course, going to be expected to believe in the central doctrines of the church.  This is true for ANY church. People join differing denominations BECAUSE they hold to differing doctrines. One of the doctrines of LDS is that homosexuality is sin, no exceptions, no excuses.  Now, how would a family function if one (or more) of the children come home from worship and bible study to parents who are, according to their doctrine, living a lifestyle of sin?  That would not be very good for the family.  So, to avoid causing such conflict, the LDS church is choosing to avoid it by not baptizing children of same sex marriages.

And, considering how the LGBT(xyzwegtfkebfbdfasdl and what ever other letters they are adding these days to be "all inclusive" - except NORMAL sexuality of course) community is suing everyone left and right over things, I can imagine that by avoiding the scenario where children come home telling their "parents" that they need to repent and stop living in sin, they are avoiding being sued every time they turn around.

[SalemCat]

In a classic study, rats were observed in a controlled environment.

In a certain amount of space, with sufficient food, all was well.

As they procreated, the amount of food was increased. But the area they lived in was not.

Trouble began.

There were fights about mates and territory.

Then homosexual behavior was observed. Some believe this was a natural event, designed to forestall the bad effects of overpopulation, at least temporarily.

As I recall, the experiment ended when complete chaos was the norm. Violence, Murder, Homosexuality, Cannibalism, you name it, it was there.

Are we so far off ?



John B. Calhoun and the "behavioral sink"

[Traninit]

So, life is all about self preservation?  Live and let live?  All roads lead to Nirvana?

hhmmm.....

I'm with Salem on this one, Kroz. Placing one's theism or lack of seems awfully elitist to me. Rather than "live and let live", I would suggest to leave specific beliefs or faiths to their believers. I would never mock ANY religion (defined as a belief or following) or lack of such, or question their ways or practices IF they are benevolent.

Benevolence may be an easier road to Nirvana than a specific religious practice. Do you disagree?

[kroz]

I'm with Salem on this one, Kroz. Placing one's theism or lack of seems awfully elitist to me. Rather than "live and let live", I would suggest to leave specific beliefs or faiths to their believers. I would never mock ANY religion (defined as a belief or following) or lack of such, or question their ways or practices IF they are benevolent.

Benevolence may be an easier road to Nirvana than a specific religious practice. Do you disagree?

I do not mock anyone's belief.  I just choose to disagree with some.

If it is all about a "feel good" experience I think we are all in trouble.

I do not seek nirvana.  I seek the face of God and no other.

According to the Bible, all roads to NOT lead to God.

Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me."   John 14:6.

Christianity is exclusive.  Jesus Christ offers mankind the only route to God the Father.

You may believe as you want and so can Salem.  It does not change the facts.  Truth is truth.  Superstition is superstition.

I accept your decision to ignore God's word.

I mean no disrespect by that.