How the Other Church Imposed Sunday Worship on the World

[Yawn]

I'm not angry.

No, you're not so much. More slippery and unable to stick with the topic. You do make SOME effort though.  Rat is good on some topics but he's really out of his element here and should stick with politics. He did lose credibility though when he admitted abortion is the MURDER of a human life, but thought it should be the choice between a woman and her doctor!!  I guess SOME human lives deserve protection, but not all!  That's when I saw an inability to reason and use basic logic. His FEELINGS get in the way of making rational judgments.

[MFA]

No, you're not so much. More slippery and unable to stick with the topic. You do make SOME effort though.

Thanks for the kind evaluation.

Rat is good on some topics but he's really out of his element here and should stick with politics.

This term, "Rat"--is that a term of endearment because of love?  When you offer judgment based on love, is calling someone "Rat" part of that?

[Darth Fife]

Didn't read through this who discussion as it seemed to wander a bit, but as a recovering Catholic who attended 12 years of parochial schooling, it was my understanding that Catholics celebrate the "Sabbath" on Sunday instead of Saturday because Jesus rose from the Dead on the day after the Sabbath.

Well, that, and they wanted to distinguish themselves from the Jews in any way possible.

[kramarat]

No, you're not so much. More slippery and unable to stick with the topic. You do make SOME effort though.  Rat is good on some topics but he's really out of his element here and should stick with politics. He did lose credibility though when he admitted abortion is the MURDER of a human life, but thought it should be the choice between a woman and her doctor!!  I guess SOME human lives deserve protection, but not all!  That's when I saw an inability to reason and use basic logic. His FEELINGS get in the way of making rational judgments.

I do believe that abortion is murder. The US supreme court doesn't, and it is legal in the US.

When a person makes a conscious decision to sin against God, I think that decision is between them and God. I have no obligation to enter their lives and attempt to prevent them from sinning. Also, for people that don't believe in God, sin is equally non-existent. They think nothing of getting abortions.

You, on the other hand, think that the laws of your particular church, should also be the laws of the "state", or that federal law should mirror Biblical law. Like it or not, this is not allowed under the first amendment.

[kramarat]

Thanks for the kind evaluation.

This term, "Rat"--is that a term of endearment because of love?  When you offer judgment based on love, is calling someone "Rat" part of that?

For the newer people: kramarat is just my name and my wife's name, spelled backwards. mark-tara

With my luck, writing something backwards is probably the work of the devil.

[Yawn]

"Rat" is meaningless, but his "name" isn't familiar so rather than highlighting it and pasting it, I just called him "rat." No offence intended, but some are easily offended. 

Great peace have they which love thy law (the Ten COMMANDMENTS): and nothing shall offend them.

I sometimes call you "Made for Adsense" because I'm on an adsense forum and a common topic is websites specifically "Made for Adsense." Google frowns on these kinds of websites. It is always shortened MFA on that forum--just an inside joke to no one but myself.

[MFA]

I sometimes call you "Made for Adsense" because I'm on an adsense forum and a common topic is websites specifically "Made for Adsense." Google frowns on these kinds of websites. It is always shortened MFA on that forum--just an inside joke to no one but myself.

  I was wondering where that came from.

MFA is short for "Mercy for All," the moniker I use on "another forum."

[kramarat]

"Rat" is meaningless, but his "name" isn't familiar so rather than highlighting it and pasting it, I just called him "rat." No offence intended, but some are easily offended. 
I sometimes call you "Made for Adsense" because I'm on an adsense forum and a common topic is websites specifically "Made for Adsense." Google frowns on these kinds of websites. It is always shortened MFA on that forum--just an inside joke to no one but myself.

I couldn't care less about being called Rat.

What I find offensive, is when someone becomes so enamored with their own Biblical knowledge, that they lose sight of what being a Christian is all about, choose to turn on their fellow Christians, and appoint themselves judge and jury on both; people as individuals, as well as the Christian religion that they decide to practice.

This is exactly what the Westboro Baptist Church does, and it's disgusting.

[Solar]

I couldn't care less about being called Rat.

What I find offensive, is when someone becomes so enamored with their own Biblical knowledge, that they lose sight of what being a Christian is all about, choose to turn on their fellow Christians, and appoint themselves judge and jury on both; people as individuals, as well as the Christian religion that they decide to practice.

This is exactly what the Westboro Baptist Church does, and it's disgusting.

It was exactly that attitude that turned me against organized Religion and had me asking more questions than any of them could answer without piety.
The answers I finally found was even God wanted nothing to do with these people that felt it was their way or the highway. God never wanted perfection, he knew man was imperfect from the start, but it's that imperfection that causes man to search for answers and strive to be better, that's what God truly appreciates.
What he doesn't appreciate is those that claim to have reached the pinnacle of understanding, only to preach ignorance in God's name.

Fact is, God just wants every individual to seek perfection and fail, there is no such thing as a perfect man, never has, and never will be.
Only those that do the right thing when no one but God is watching, is as close to perfection as man will ever get in the eyes of God.

I watched my dad do it and that's when I knew that it wasn't any Religion or church that brought you closer to god and what he expected of us, but rather our deeds when no one else was watching.
Doing the right thing when you didn't really have to, that's all God asks of us, kindness for our fellow man and the creatures of the Earth.

I look down upon no one striving for answers through Religion, I hope they find what they are looking for.
But Religion is not God.

[kramarat]

It was exactly that attitude that turned me against organized Religion and had me asking more questions than any of them could answer without piety.
The answers I finally found was even God wanted nothing to do with these people that felt it was their way or the highway. God never wanted perfection, he knew man was imperfect from the start, but it's that imperfection that causes man to search for answers and strive to be better, that's what God truly appreciates.
What he doesn't appreciate is those that claim to have reached the pinnacle of understanding, only to preach ignorance in God's name.

Fact is, God just wants every individual to seek perfection and fail, there is no such thing as a perfect man, never has, and never will be.
Only those that do the right thing when no one but God is watching, is as close to perfection as man will ever get in the eyes of God.

I watched my dad do it and that's when I knew that it wasn't any Religion or church that brought you closer to god and what he expected of us, but rather our deeds when no one else was watching.
Doing the right thing when you didn't really have to, that's all God asks of us, kindness for our fellow man and the creatures of the Earth.

I look down upon no one striving for answers through Religion, I hope they find what they are looking for.
But Religion is not God.

Whether it's within a church, or not; when certain Christians reach the conclusion that there is a "pecking order" within Christianity, and that they are at the top of it, and are somehow more worthy of God's love than others...........it's a dangerous path for them to be following. I consider it to be a corrupt deviation from Christianity, that is based in pride and arrogance. Not good.

David Koresh is a glaring example of what can happen when someone, (through scripture), is able to delude themselves into thinking that they are the, (earthly), right hand of God Himself. Jim Jones is another.

I hope we won't be adding Yawn to that list.

[Solar]

Whether it's within a church, or not; when certain Christians reach the conclusion that there is a "pecking order" within Christianity, and that they are at the top of it, and are somehow more worthy of God's love than others...........it's a dangerous path for them to be following. I consider it to be a corrupt deviation from Christianity, that is based in pride and arrogance. Not good.

David Koresh is a glaring example of what can happen when someone, (through scripture), is able to delude themselves into thinking that they are the, (earthly), right hand of God Himself. Jim Jones is another.

I hope we won't be adding Yawn to that list.

I agree, like praying three times towards Mecca, praying less or more doesn't make you any better than the quadriplegic whom can't show his reverence.
Knowing God and following rituals are two different things, our actions towards others is what matters in the end.