Ohio School District Settles With ACLU, Agrees to Remove Jesus Portrait...

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Ohio School District Settles With ACLU, Agrees to Remove Jesus Portrait, Pay $95,000 Fine
By Michael Gryboski
The Christian Post

A school district in Ohio has reached a settlement with the American Civil Liberties Union to keep a portrait of Jesus Christ off school property and pay a $95,000 fine.

Jackson City School District agreed to the settlement Friday in response to legal action being pushed by the ACLU and the Wisconsin-based group the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

James Hardiman, legal director for the Ohio chapter of the ACLU, said in a statement that he believed the legal action should not have been needed.

"This case could have ended before it began if the school had simply acknowledged that it is not the government's place to endorse one specific religion in a public school that children are legally required to attend," said Hardiman................

Full story @ http://www.christianpost.com/news/ohio-school-district-settles-with-aclu-agrees-to-remove-jesus-portrait-pay-95k-fine-106092/

laelan51

The Atheist Communist Libertine Underground was founded by some "progressive" named Baldwin with the expressed purpose of de-legitimizing Christianity and pushing it's adherents into the dust-bin of History, as the Marxists like to say. That the low oozing slime were able to gain such a victory in spite of the clear wording and meaning of the First Amendment is an indication of how low we have allowed America to fall.

Mountainshield

Who recieved the $95,000 Fine? The ACLU?

Quote from: laelan51 on October 11, 2013, 12:50:29 PM
That the low oozing slime were able to gain such a victory in spite of the clear wording and meaning of the First Amendment is an indication of how low we have allowed America to fall.

The more news I get from the Americaland, the more grateful I'm that my own country is very conservative and capitalist compared to the alternatives.

Con4Evar

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.


--Signed, the founding fathers.

Solar

Quote from: Con4Evar on October 25, 2013, 03:30:23 PM
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.


--Signed, the founding fathers.
Though our laws were founded on Judeo Christian principles, to deny it is pure ignorance of our Founders.
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TboneAgain

Quote from: Con4Evar on October 25, 2013, 03:30:23 PM
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.


--Signed, the founding fathers.

I remember back when I had my head planted that firmly up my ass. Good times...

It is established historical fact, and quite literally beyond debate, that this nation was founded, as Solar has pointed out, on Judeo-Christian principles. Trolls who post claims like, "Gravity is not, in any sense, responsible for the fact that we stick to the surface of the earth" will always be slapped down for dribbling gibberish all over everybody's computer screens.

As for the OP, I'm less interested in who gets the money than I am in learning just exactly why the district was fined at all. What law did they break? You can't be fined simply for doing something some lib/prog judge decides you shouldn't be doing. Fines are attached to laws. What law did they break that could justify a fine that size?
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. -- Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; IT IS FORCE. -- George Washington

norwegen

Quote from: Solar on October 25, 2013, 04:36:37 PM
Though our laws were founded on Judeo Christian principles, to deny it is pure ignorance of our Founders.
Did not the Romans leave a bigger legacy on our founding than the Hebrews did?

The Hebrews, reared more or less in natural law principle, or as the Prophet Amos called it, the Covenant of Brotherhood, seemed to take our natural state for granted, believing that man generally behaved as God created him.  Any discussion of the principle was superfluous.

The Romans gave the principle its own vocabulary, making it a school of thought, and not necessarily with a Creator in mind.  Somewhat akin to God's law, the natural law left an indelible impression on the Americans, as did English common law, also not exactly God's law, but a principle rooted in experience and reason.

The Americans, including the founders, were certainly believers in our Creator, but they did not create a theocracy.  The government has no faith in Providence.  The people, however, do.

Does this sound reasonable?  Thoughts?

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TboneAgain

Quote from: 9 on October 28, 2013, 04:03:48 PM
Did not the Romans leave a bigger legacy on our founding than the Hebrews did?

The Hebrews, reared more or less in natural law principle, or as the Prophet Amos called it, the Covenant of Brotherhood, seemed to take our natural state for granted, believing that man generally behaved as God created him.  Any discussion of the principle was superfluous.

The Romans gave the principle its own vocabulary, making it a school of thought, and not necessarily with a Creator in mind.  Somewhat akin to God's law, the natural law left an indelible impression on the Americans, as did English common law, also not exactly God's law, but a principle rooted in experience and reason.

The Americans, including the founders, were certainly believers in our Creator, but they did not create a theocracy.  The government has no faith in Providence.  The people, however, do.

Does this sound reasonable?  Thoughts?

By the way, my name is 9.  Hello.

Hi, 9, nice to have you here!

I think the founders didn't create a theocracy mainly because that's not what they were trying to do. One of the many problems they had with Great Britain was the existence of a state-sponsored faith -- the Church of England -- which used its power to ruthlessly suppress other religions, especially the Catholic Church. I think they purposefully set out to create a government that did NOT sponsor any particular religion, but still was founded on Christian principles. That is to say, the principles themselves made common sense and were a good basis for rational law, but incorporating the church that propounded them was a bad idea. Make sense?

Their marvelous idea was to create a nation that did not officially have, as you put it, "faith in Providence," but at the same time allowed its citizens to have all the faith they wanted, in whatever form of "Providence" they chose. There will always be contradictions and conflicts, owing to the simple fact that, by definition, every religion believes it is the one and only correct religion, and followers of all the others are bound for hell. In addition, there is a faction that believes in no religion whatsoever. The founders -- wisely, I think -- chose to stay above the fray.

Never forget the guiding principle of the leading lights of the Constitution -- the central government must be strictly limited in scope and power. They believed that the central government had no business whatsoever in the field of faith, and they composed the First Amendment to express that belief in plain terms. The power of those words has been diluted, adulterated, convoluted, and misdirected for centuries, but the plain meaning is still there, unchanged: the central government has no business in the religion business.

But that does not change the plain fact that the nation was founded, and the Constitution written, largely in compliance with Judeo-Christian principles.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. -- Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; IT IS FORCE. -- George Washington