Dr Adrian Rogers,1931 You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it

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kroz

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 20, 2015, 02:30:07 PM
God does not speak with you. He expects you to have faith in him and he will lead you through your life. One might think they are your chiocedsand decisions, but with faith they are actually his.

It is the third person of the holy trinity (the holy spirit) that speaks to us in our spirit.  It "prompts" us to do certain things.  Sometimes it is something totally uncharacteristic of our human nature.  But you learn to discern this spirit that speaks to your heart.  Sometimes he gives us wisdom beyond our normal intellect.  Sometimes he actually changes our heart and causes us to want to do something that we have always thought we would never do.  It is totally supernatural.

However, the holy spirit only resides within those who have received the saving grace of the second person of the holy trinity, Jesus.  Once we repent of our sins and receive him, he seals us with his holy spirit which will never depart from us.  That is what is taught in the Bible.

Apart from the holy spirit, you are on your own.   :sad:

Solar

Quote from: cubedemon on September 20, 2015, 02:12:56 PM
Let's take this in a different tact.   You're telling me to use my gut and that it is God talking.   I am assuming all of this is true about God. 

1.  God wants a relationship with his creation, right?

2.  Part of a relationship involves communication meaning that there is a mutual understanding of what the other person says, means and their intent behind the words and actions.   

3.  God formed thee in thy mother's womb, right?

4.  If God formed thee in thy mother's womb with a specific nature than wouldn't God communicate with me in a way that I could understand through my own God created nature and God created understanding?   I am part of God's creation, right?   He knows how I work, think and function so why wouldn't he speak in a tongue that was specific to how I work, think and function?

When I said follow your gut instincts, that's God smacking you upside the head, listen to him!
If you're about to do something real stupid, and there is little voice telling you to stop?
Gods trying to get your attention!

I assume you have a conscience? That's God talking to you, trying to get you to do the right thing.
People without conscience? It is they who have abandoned God and struck out on their own.

The closer you come to God, the louder his voice, and the better able you are to make the right choices in life.

Here's a bit of an odd thread, but may answer some questions you have, and some you've never asked, or even cared to ask, for that matter. :lol:
The author is an atheist troll that no longer trespasses the halls of CPF, so don't bother responding to him, though everyone else is still here.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/new-board/how-do-creationists-explain-vestigial-adaptations/
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Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2015, 05:43:46 PM
When I said follow your gut instincts, that's God smacking you upside the head, listen to him!
If you're about to do something real stupid, and there is little voice telling you to stop?
Gods trying to get your attention!

I assume you have a conscience? That's God talking to you, trying to get you to do the right thing.
People without conscience? It is they who have abandoned God and struck out on their own.

The closer you come to God, the louder his voice, and the better able you are to make the right choices in life.

Here's a bit of an odd thread, but may answer some questions you have, and some you've never asked, or even cared to ask, for that matter. :lol:
The author is an atheist troll that no longer trespasses the halls of CPF, so don't bother responding to him, though everyone else is still here.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/new-board/how-do-creationists-explain-vestigial-adaptations/

Very interesting link, solar.  Thanks for posting it. 

Solar

Quote from: kroz on September 20, 2015, 06:42:20 PM
Very interesting link, solar.  Thanks for posting it.
Yeah, I thought it might be food for thought for a lot of posters.
MFA is a fine poster, we have another named Moishe, that really adds to the forum, I wish he'd stop in more often as well.
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Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2015, 07:20:27 PM
Yeah, I thought it might be food for thought for a lot of posters.
MFA is a fine poster, we have another named Moishe, that really adds to the forum, I wish he'd stop in more often as well.

Moishe has not even been in the Romper Room for some time now. 
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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Solar

Quote from: walkstall on September 20, 2015, 07:31:35 PM
Moishe has not even been in the Romper Room for some time now.
Yeah, I talked to him on the phone last year and he was extremely busy with the church in Canada.
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Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2015, 05:43:46 PM
When I said follow your gut instincts, that's God smacking you upside the head, listen to him!
If you're about to do something real stupid, and there is little voice telling you to stop?
Gods trying to get your attention!

I understand what you mean now.  I didn't realize this and never thought of it like that.

Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2015, 05:43:46 PMI assume you have a conscience? That's God talking to you, trying to get you to do the right thing.
People without conscience? It is they who have abandoned God and struck out on their own.

Yes sir, I do have a conscience.   I do get this extreme bad feeling when I'm about to do something stupid or I've done something stupid or said something stupid. 

Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2015, 05:43:46 PMThe closer you come to God, the louder his voice, and the better able you are to make the right choices in life.

What do you mean come closer to God? 

Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2015, 05:43:46 PM

Here's a bit of an odd thread, but may answer some questions you have, and some you've never asked, or even cared to ask, for that matter. :lol:
The author is an atheist troll that no longer trespasses the halls of CPF, so don't bother responding to him, though everyone else is still here.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/new-board/how-do-creationists-explain-vestigial-adaptations/

I have read the thread.  He is very dismissive.   I do accept that there are things like energies that I do not understand.   I'm willing to accept the idea that God (at least a creator does exist).   He did ask well wouldn't God need a God. Maybe, but Not necessarily.   There is a possibility and assuming it is linear time (past to present to future) that the creator came from a distant futuristic time and created the universe in the past somehow.   Past begets the future and future begets the past making time circular in a way.   

Science is a useful tool but I find that it restricts me to much to a box.  He restricts himself to a box.

Kroz I do want to apologize to you for something.  I did ask you to prove that God exists and because the scientific method requires empiricism it is not possible.  God is outside of that so for me to ask you to prove this is haughty for me to ask.  God is neither provable nor disprovable.  Will you accept my apology for me being a fuddy duddy on that?




kroz

Quote from: cubedemon on September 20, 2015, 08:21:18 PM
Kroz I do want to apologize to you for something.  I did ask you to prove that God exists and because the scientific method requires empiricism it is not possible.  God is outside of that so for me to ask you to prove this is haughty for me to ask.  God is neither provable nor disprovable.  Will you accept my apology for me being a fuddy duddy on that?

Of course I will.  I am happy that you are even thinking about God.

I too have said some things to you that were unfair and I hope you accept my apology also..

Solar

Quote from: cubedemon on September 20, 2015, 08:21:18 PM
I understand what you mean now.  I didn't realize this and never thought of it like that.

Yes sir, I do have a conscience.   I do get this extreme bad feeling when I'm about to do something stupid or I've done something stupid or said something stupid. 

What do you mean come closer to God? 
When I was a kid I used to take my dog on hikes deep into farm country and just sit, I'd connect with God/nature and ask mercilessly innocuous questions.
He always answered. The problem is, most people become self absorbed, they worry about the stupidest of issues, and the more they focus on themselves, the further they drift away,
God has the answers, you just have to remember how he speaks to you.

QuoteI have read the thread.  He is very dismissive.   I do accept that there are things like energies that I do not understand.   I'm willing to accept the idea that God (at least a creator does exist).   He did ask well wouldn't God need a God. Maybe, but Not necessarily.   There is a possibility and assuming it is linear time (past to present to future) that the creator came from a distant futuristic time and created the universe in the past somehow.   Past begets the future and future begets the past making time circular in a way.   

Science is a useful tool but I find that it restricts me to much to a box.  He restricts himself to a box.

Kroz I do want to apologize to you for something.  I did ask you to prove that God exists and because the scientific method requires empiricism it is not possible.  God is outside of that so for me to ask you to prove this is haughty for me to ask.  God is neither provable nor disprovable.  Will you accept my apology for me being a fuddy duddy on that?
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Quote from: Solar on September 16, 2015, 01:59:33 PM
I understand. I think the problem is, you way over think everything, don't look at it through a microscope.
When approaching an issue, go with your first gut instinct. Like the guy in my story, he didn't need to be shown how to use a mop, most likely because he'd used one before, so he did the best job he could, and with his work ethic, he probably went above and beyond what was asked of him.

Could it be, that jsut maybe you need to start at the bottom in an entry level job and see how the real world works?
You can read every book their is on how to mop a fllor, but until you actually do it, you'll never get it.
Take a shot, apply for an entry level position as a janitor, or golpher at a car lot, get your foot in the door, you never know where it might lead.

Let me tell you how I spent my all of my 20's seeking employment.
I'd have some menial job working construction or something, then one day on the way to work, I'd ask God for direction, and invariable he'd say turn right, pull in there and talk to that guy. I'm not making this up, it's the Gods truth.

I'd strike up a conversation with the guy and after awhile the guy would give me a lead on a job.
I'd go in, interview and was almost always hired on the spot, granted, these weren't really skilled positions, but they always lead to a better position, or a new lead.
The point is, you just have to get up the nerve to ask for a job, anything if you really want to get a start.

By the way, every single job I had, was in preparation for later in life of my career.
Thank you God, whom allowed me to retire in my 40s.

Listen to your gut, it's God talking....

I think I may have a conjecture about the workplace and what people do.   What you're saying is that people get entry level jobs like janitors, etc and they make sure they do an excellent job there.   They show up on time and anything they notice that needs to be done they do it.  Sometimes, they will go out of there way to make sure that things are done and look to make sure things are done.   

Another thing, they establish relationships with their bosses, supervisors, coworkers, etc and get on friendly terms with them but make sure they still do their job with excellence.  Their work is top-notch and they make sure they do it in a reasonable amount of time.   

As they are there for a while, they understand what jobs are there in that corporate workplace, government, nonprofit or organization through their established work relationships with their fellow co-workers, bosses, supervisors, CEO, etc.    What ever skills they need to go for what job they want they will obtain the skills on their own, eventually apply and then use their co-workers, supervisor, etc as a springboard/recommendations.   

Slowly, do this and rise through ranks to the position that one desires or maybe better or maybe go for a different career if one wants to doing the same process.

Is this how things truthfully work?   Am I least on the right track or am I still way off base?

Solar, I am going to crack this code and figure this out because when I am not able to figure something it bothers me extremely and its like an itch I can't scratch.   Even when I say I want to call it quits, I just feel this gnawing.   Do you understand where I'm coming from?

Another thing, different phrases can mean different things in different contexts and situations.  For example,  when it comes to the work place be yourself is shorthand for be your best self and the best self is defined by the organization(s).     The best self are those who come in on time meaning they're 15 min before their scheduled shift starts.   Their clothing is clean and pressed.   They're upbeat, positive and confident (meaning they believe they can do the job) and show they can through various verbal and non-verbal language. 

Solar

Quote from: cubedemon on September 24, 2015, 03:20:18 PM
I think I may have a conjecture about the workplace and what people do.   What you're saying is that people get entry level jobs like janitors, etc and they make sure they do an excellent job there.   They show up on time and anything they notice that needs to be done they do it.  Sometimes, they will go out of there way to make sure that things are done and look to make sure things are done.   

Another thing, they establish relationships with their bosses, supervisors, coworkers, etc and get on friendly terms with them but make sure they still do their job with excellence.  Their work is top-notch and they make sure they do it in a reasonable amount of time.   

As they are there for a while, they understand what jobs are there in that corporate workplace, government, nonprofit or organization through their established work relationships with their fellow co-workers, bosses, supervisors, CEO, etc.    What ever skills they need to go for what job they want they will obtain the skills on their own, eventually apply and then use their co-workers, supervisor, etc as a springboard/recommendations.   

Slowly, do this and rise through ranks to the position that one desires or maybe better or maybe go for a different career if one wants to doing the same process.

Is this how things truthfully work?   Am I least on the right track or am I still way off base?

Solar, I am going to crack this code and figure this out because when I am not able to figure something it bothers me extremely and its like an itch I can't scratch.   Even when I say I want to call it quits, I just feel this gnawing.   Do you understand where I'm coming from?

Another thing, different phrases can mean different things in different contexts and situations.  For example,  when it comes to the work place be yourself is shorthand for be your best self and the best self is defined by the organization(s).     The best self are those who come in on time meaning they're 15 min before their scheduled shift starts.   Their clothing is clean and pressed.   They're upbeat, positive and confident (meaning they believe they can do the job) and show they can through various verbal and non-verbal language.
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Quote from: Solar on September 24, 2015, 03:49:46 PM
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Yes, you finally got it. All you wrote is correct.

Wow!  I don't know what to say my friend.   I am very happy and ecstatic about this.    :biggrin: :biggrin:

It took me a long time to finally realize this after writing my stuff, asking multiple people questions online and offline including family members including you guys.   This is so weird but it was like a sudden revelation and I was out doing tasks and stopped off at Panera Bread and bought a grilled cheese sandwich.  While I was eating the sandwich this conjecture popped up in my head all at once.  It was like being struck by lightening.  One second, I was ignorant and next I became wise.   

For me, it seems like this verse was true.   

http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-7.htm

Matthew 7:7   Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

Weird how one can be ignorant one second and then the next second, you receive a sudden understanding and then you ask yourself "What in the heck was I thinking before?   Why didn't I see this?"   

Has this happened to you before?

Solar

Quote from: cubedemon on September 24, 2015, 04:49:51 PM
Wow!  I don't know what to say my friend.   I am very happy and ecstatic about this.    :biggrin: :biggrin:

It took me a long time to finally realize this after writing my stuff, asking multiple people questions online and offline including family members including you guys.   This is so weird but it was like a sudden revelation and I was out doing tasks and stopped off at Panera Bread and bought a grilled cheese sandwich.  While I was eating the sandwich this conjecture popped up in my head all at once.  It was like being struck by lightening.  One second, I was ignorant and next I became wise.   

For me, it seems like this verse was true.   

http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-7.htm

Matthew 7:7   Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

Weird how one can be ignorant one second and then the next second, you receive a sudden understanding and then you ask yourself "What in the heck was I thinking before?   Why didn't I see this?"   

Has this happened to you before?
I had the same kind of effect when I was much younger and was eating a tuna sandwich. Yes, like someone turned on a switch, but it was later that I discovered it was the omega 3 fatty acids in the fish that triggered it.
Anyway, for me, because being ADHD, there appears to be a definite link.

Point is, repeat your diet, examine what it was you ate that day, because certain foods can and do, have positive as well a negative effects.
That, or God smacked you upside the head. :biggrin:
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Solar two things:

1.   Three weeks ago my mother died unexpectedly. :sad:

2.   I am seeing a brand new psychologist and she recommended I go to a developmental disability center.   They would do an intake, assessment and provide support.   I called them and they told me that I need to gather certain things i.e. two forms of ID, diagnosis of my condition, any medication I am on, my social security pay stub or the letter that was mailed to me.  I'm going to try them out and see what the heck happens.   What do you think?

Solar

Quote from: cubedemon on November 11, 2015, 03:35:10 PM
Solar two things:

1.   Three weeks ago my mother died unexpectedly. :sad:

2.   I am seeing a brand new psychologist and she recommended I go to a developmental disability center.   They would do an intake, assessment and provide support.   I called them and they told me that I need to gather certain things i.e. two forms of ID, diagnosis of my condition, any medication I am on, my social security pay stub or the letter that was mailed to me.  I'm going to try them out and see what the heck happens.   What do you think?
First. Sorry for your loss.

Second, I think it's a great idea. If anything they can maybe place you in a job that fits your abilities.
But be very leery of meds, shrinks tend to use them as shortcuts rather than simply doing their job.
IF, they suggest a new med, research the Hell out of it for side effects, try and find people using the drug, see if they are just like you, ask questions, and then ask more, you can never be too careful.

Personally, I doubt meds are the answer, instead ask for a referral to a holistic doctor for a second opinion.
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