Does The Catholic Chirch Have An Obama?

[supsalemgr]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/20/cardinal-stunning-demotion-helps-pope-francis-quell-conservative-backlash-for/

I am not Catholic, but I have always had much respect for its principles and traditions. However, it would seem the current pope  is tracking an Obama path. The MSM is polishing as much as possible. He apparently is "soft" on some truly age old principles, think what Obama is doing to the US Constitution. Very similar. I would be interested in hearing from any of the Catholic faith their view on the current pope.

[Darth Fife]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/20/cardinal-stunning-demotion-helps-pope-francis-quell-conservative-backlash-for/

I am not Catholic, but I have always had much respect for its principles and traditions. However, it would seem the current pope  is tracking an Obama path. The MSM is polishing as much as possible. He apparently is "soft" on some truly age old principles, think what Obama is doing to the US Constitution. Very similar. I would be interested in hearing from any of the Catholic faith their view on the current pope.

The problem is, the Catholic Church is neither a democracy nor is it a Repulic. It is a Monarchy. The Pope has absolute power over the Church. He is the Vicar of Christ, the Successor of St Peter, and, when speaking on issues of Church doctrine - he is infallible.

In short, the Pope is what Obama wishes he could be!

Darth

[zewazir]

Try to remember who it is that is reporting all these "soft" things Pope Francis is doing.  These are the same "information" outlets, laughingly called the news, that has been painting Obama as the best thing since the wheel.  In short, they are deliberately misinterpreting what Pope Francis is saying.

For instance, they are all giddy with delight in claiming that the Pope is going soft on homosexuality, transgenders, and other sexual deviations, jumping especially on the phrase "...homosexuals may have much to offer." But that phrase is taken out of context (as is the usual method of the media in their disinformation campaign) It simply is not what the Pope actually said in toto. What the Pope really said is that we need to welcome ALL people into our Church, because we are all sinners in need of forgiveness, and that regardless of the sinner, we each, as creations of the Lord, have much to offer BECAUSE we are all creations of the Lord.

Did Pope Francis say, or even imply, that it is OK to live the homosexual lifestyle? Not in the least, any more than he has said any other sinful lifestyle is OK to live, as long as we attend Mass regularly. Never in the history of the Church has the attitude been that is is OK to sin. (Though we are often accused of exactly that attitude...) "Go and sin no more" is the final command Jesus gave to the woman whom He saved from stoning. And that is exactly what is expected of each and every Christian, and specific to this conversation, is expected of each and every Catholic. We are to, every day, do our best to refrain from that which is sinful, even knowing we will most often fail.

The response by Pope Francis is because there are Catholic parishes out there who have taken on themselves to excommunicate homosexuals and others of similar type.  Excommunication is supposed to be reserved for those who attempt to deliberately bring harm to the Church, or a parish within the Church. Simply being homosexual does not, itself bring harm, and is therefore not an offense deserving of excommunication.

Instead, Pope Francis is saying we need to be more like our Lord, Jesus Christ, who himself went among the sinners in order to bring them to the Lord.

The Pharisees saw this and said to his disciples, "Why does your teacher* eat with tax collectors and sinners?" He heard this and said, "Those who are well do not need a physician, but the sick do.* Go and learn the meaning of the words,f 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'* I did not come to call the righteous but sinners."

Matt 9:11-13
We cannot bring sinners to the Lord if we kick them out for being sinners. And THAT is what Pope Francis is saying.

[daidalos]

The problem is, the Catholic Church is neither a democracy nor is it a Repulic. It is a Monarchy. The Pope has absolute power over the Church. He is the Vicar of Christ, the Successor of St Peter, and, when speaking on issues of Church doctrine - he is infallible.

In short, the Pope is what Obama wishes he could be!

Darth

The Pope claims he is the Vicar of Christ (no such title is created nor granted in the scripture) the Pope claims he is the Successor of St. Peter, another claim with no validity in historical fact or scripture, and no man, is infallible, according to scripture only God is.


That said, the Pope is as you said a Monarch, who rules over what is a nation state called the Vatican.

He is not an elected leader like the President.