Do you punish or reward to the human in the grave?

Started by eninn, August 31, 2012, 04:45:50 AM

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kramarat

Quote from: Solar on August 31, 2012, 04:15:46 PM
I should explain fanatics, as in reference to those nuts that protest at Military funerals.
Outside of them, I really don't know of any.

I've run into a couple. I dismiss them. Even if it's a sports freak.

JustKari

And in all fairness to Christians, those guys that protest military funerals are actually a group of lawyers who call themselves Christian for the tax breaks.  They aren't just fanatics, they are dirty, rotten, scoundrel, lying, fanatics.

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Quote from: JustKari on August 31, 2012, 05:19:52 PM
And in all fairness to Christians, those guys that protest military funerals are actually a group of lawyers who call themselves Christian for the tax breaks.  They aren't just fanatics, they are dirty, rotten, scoundrel, lying, fanatics.

Are you talking about the Westboro Baptist church? Those people are certifiably insane. They're lawyers? :blink:

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on August 31, 2012, 05:51:51 PM
Are you talking about the Westboro Baptist church? Those people are certifiably insane. They're lawyers? :blink:
I thought they were a family?
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Quote from: kramarat on August 31, 2012, 05:51:51 PM
Are you talking about the Westboro Baptist church? Those people are certifiably insane. They're lawyers? :blink:

Yes, WBC is a front, it isn't an actual church.  They are lawyers.  I will see if I can dig up my old links about it.

I can't find what I had, but the wiki is actually pretty close to what I have read.  Solar, you are right, most of the members (if not all) are the family members of Fred Phelps. This guys "philosophy", because I refuse to call it theology, sounds very similar in some instances to Jeremiah Wright. 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

eninn

Why do you punish women, treat them like chattel, why do you force them to cover their face, why can't they drive?
And you expect us to listen to the words of a pedophile?

Unfortunately

In America
Cases of rape
Of a woman or girl
Every
6 minutes


USA has one of the highest rates of rape

United States of America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries of the world. It also has one of the highest rates of rape in any country in the world. According to an FBI report, in the year 1990, everyday on an average 1756 rapes were committed in USA alone. Later another report said that on an average everyday 1900 rapes are committed in USA. The year was not mentioned. May be it was 1992 or 1993. May be the Americans got 'bolder' in the following years.


In Islamic countries
Delinquent
Known in the inside that veiled Muslim women beautiful more than a woman dressed in scandalous

And wishes to see any part of her
Candy-covered
  Take hearts
  More than a Stripper

Rate of rape in Muslim countries, very few

Rate of rape in western countries is very high





Twisting and turning and distance from the truth


     -Mixing in the sense that we see today

     Hands and arms of peace and kisses between the sexes
     Dating and in and out at night

     - This is the truth can not deny.
     Boys and girls living together
     Without a legitimate marriage and the children of illegal
     This is the basis of Western society



     -Western talk of women's liberalization is nothing but a disguised form of exploitation of her body, degradation of her soul and deprivation of her honour. Western society claims to have 'uplifted' women. On the contrary it has actually degraded them to the status of concubines, mistresses and society butterflies who are mere tools in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketeers, hidden behind the colourful screen of 'art' and 'culture'.

Solar

Quote from: eninn on September 01, 2012, 05:01:53 AM
Why do you punish women, treat them like chattel, why do you force them to cover their face, why can't they drive?
And you expect us to listen to the words of a pedophile?

Unfortunately

In America
Cases of rape
Of a woman or girl
Every
6 minutes


USA has one of the highest rates of rape

United States of America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries of the world. It also has one of the highest rates of rape in any country in the world. According to an FBI report, in the year 1990, everyday on an average 1756 rapes were committed in USA alone. Later another report said that on an average everyday 1900 rapes are committed in USA. The year was not mentioned. May be it was 1992 or 1993. May be the Americans got 'bolder' in the following years.


In Islamic countries
Delinquent
Known in the inside that veiled Muslim women beautiful more than a woman dressed in scandalous

And wishes to see any part of her
Candy-covered
  Take hearts
  More than a Stripper

Rate of rape in Muslim countries, very few

Rate of rape in western countries is very high





Twisting and turning and distance from the truth


     -Mixing in the sense that we see today

     Hands and arms of peace and kisses between the sexes
     Dating and in and out at night

     - This is the truth can not deny.
     Boys and girls living together
     Without a legitimate marriage and the children of illegal
     This is the basis of Western society



     -Western talk of women's liberalization is nothing but a disguised form of exploitation of her body, degradation of her soul and deprivation of her honour. Western society claims to have 'uplifted' women. On the contrary it has actually degraded them to the status of concubines, mistresses and society butterflies who are mere tools in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketeers, hidden behind the colourful screen of 'art' and 'culture'.
In the US, any unwanted sexual contact is considered rape, in your country, the woman has no such right of protection.
So cut the crap, you live in a country of backward thinking animals that see women as property, not equals.
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QuoteRate of rape in Muslim countries, very few

Rate of rape in western countries is very high

Right. A woman that is raped in a muslim country has to produce 4 male witnesses, otherwise, no rape occurred. Do we really need to get into the specifics of how women are treated in muslim countries?

By the way, our president has embraced homosexuality as a great lifestyle, and the democrat convention is opening with 2 hours of muslim prayer. How does allah feel about homosexuality?

JustKari

You know, I could post some of the HUNDREDS of links regarding rape or gang rape of white women and children in Europe and  Scandinavia by Muslims.  It wouldn't make any difference though, because your definition of rape is so different than ours that would do no good. 

Anyone who can justify rape in their post, like you did, for all of us to see, shows EXACTLY how Muslims view non-Muslim women.  I need to walk away from this thread for a while.

kramarat

Quote from: JustKari on September 01, 2012, 07:48:57 AM
You know, I could post some of the HUNDREDS of links regarding rape or gang rape of white women and children in Europe and  Scandinavia by Muslims.  It wouldn't make any difference though, because your definition of rape is so different than ours that would do no good. 

Anyone who can justify rape in their post, like you did, for all of us to see, shows EXACTLY how Muslims view non-Muslim women.  I need to walk away from this thread for a while.

He won't be around long Kari. He's obviously confused. I can't help but wonder how he feels about the imam doing the prayer at the democrat convention here in the US. The platform is going to be abortion on demand and homosexual marriage, and an imam is going to be placing allah's blessing on the entire thing.

I'm glad I'm not a muslim. I would feel nothing but shame and betrayal by such an act.

eninn

There is a difference between rape and adultery

In crime
Adultery
This crime is by mutual consent

There must be four witnesses
Because both sides wanted to hide
And also to protect the Muslim Family
Falsehood of the claim

As for rape without the consent of the parties
Coercion and violence
Sufficient testimony of a woman
The medical examiner

Islam respect women
And Muslim women
Comes first
In the life of a Muslim man
Unlike women in the West
Is a cheap commodity
Recognition
Women of the West


- Says Glenda Jackson carrier Oscars awarded by the Queen of Britain and the medal of the highest state medals, which was awarded the British Academy Award, Festival Montreal World says: (The instinct made man is the most powerful and dominant building on to his reasons for the force to make it in the first place, including summed up by the power of God move in life, and extract its resources, it is self-serve when the man that qualify automatically to face the burdens of life, development, and sustained in the areas of life).

B - the US women's leader (Fleche Hlavi) called on women to the need for attention to the husband and children before the job of interest, and must be the husband is the head of the family and the commander of rudderless.
C - In the recent book about the life of English writer famous (Agatha Christie) it is stated as saying: (The women of modern joint-stock; because their position in society is getting worse day by day; we women act act a fool ; because we have made the effort over the years; for the right to work and equality in working with men.
And men are not stupid; Hjona has it that advertisers do not mind at all that the working wife and the husband's income has doubled.

It is sad to find that after we proved we women fairer sex weak that we get back in the day to equate effort and sweat, which was awarded to men and alone).
D - says an American psychologist: (Any woman who said: I am sure myself, and went out without censor or kill herself it Haseeb and chastity).

الإسلام و المسيحية........... Islam und Christentum

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Solar

Quote from: eninn on September 03, 2012, 06:48:25 AM
There is a difference between rape and adultery

In crime
Adultery
This crime is by mutual consent

There must be four witnesses
Because both sides wanted to hide
And also to protect the Muslim Family
Falsehood of the claim

As for rape without the consent of the parties
Coercion and violence
Sufficient testimony of a woman
The medical examiner

Islam respect women
And Muslim women
Comes first


Really? Do you really think you're fooling anyone?

To all of you reading this, don't watch the video, unless you like watching Muscm men respect women to death, a slow agonizing death, one designed to cover their lack of masculinity.

Real men don't abuse women, only girly men would throw rocks at a helpless female, one where her hands are tied and she is buried up to her shoulders.
Only a mad man would write such laws!

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Quote from: eninn on September 03, 2012, 06:48:25 AM
There is a difference between rape and adultery

In crime
Adultery
This crime is by mutual consent

There must be four witnesses
Because both sides wanted to hide
And also to protect the Muslim Family
Falsehood of the claim

As for rape without the consent of the parties
Coercion and violence
Sufficient testimony of a woman
The medical examiner

Islam respect women
And Muslim women
Comes first
In the life of a Muslim man
Unlike women in the West
Is a cheap commodity
Recognition
Women of the West


- Says Glenda Jackson carrier Oscars awarded by the Queen of Britain and the medal of the highest state medals, which was awarded the British Academy Award, Festival Montreal World says: (The instinct made man is the most powerful and dominant building on to his reasons for the force to make it in the first place, including summed up by the power of God move in life, and extract its resources, it is self-serve when the man that qualify automatically to face the burdens of life, development, and sustained in the areas of life).

B - the US women's leader (Fleche Hlavi) called on women to the need for attention to the husband and children before the job of interest, and must be the husband is the head of the family and the commander of rudderless.
C - In the recent book about the life of English writer famous (Agatha Christie) it is stated as saying: (The women of modern joint-stock; because their position in society is getting worse day by day; we women act act a fool ; because we have made the effort over the years; for the right to work and equality in working with men.
And men are not stupid; Hjona has it that advertisers do not mind at all that the working wife and the husband's income has doubled.

It is sad to find that after we proved we women fairer sex weak that we get back in the day to equate effort and sweat, which was awarded to men and alone).
D - says an American psychologist: (Any woman who said: I am sure myself, and went out without censor or kill herself it Haseeb and chastity).

الإسلام و المسيحية........... Islam und Christentum

احمد ديدات الزواج و الطلاق فالإسلام - راااااائع

Okay fine. I guess you're not going away, so it's time to start posting facts about how muslim women are treated. I'll get back to you.

I'm sure that Kari and others here, will be happy to provide evidence.

Lets start off with female genital mutilation, shall we?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136907/Genital-mutilation-British-muslim-leader-caught-camera-advocating-female-circumcision.html

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on September 03, 2012, 08:04:01 AM
Okay fine. I guess you're not going away, so it's time to start posting facts about how muslim women are treated. I'll get back to you.

I'm sure that Kari and others here, will be happy to provide evidence.

Lets start off with female genital mutilation, shall we?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136907/Genital-mutilation-British-muslim-leader-caught-camera-advocating-female-circumcision.html
We posted about the same moment.
You can expect his response will have nothing to do with our posts, but rather some obscure quote from a mad man pedophile that feared women in the 7th century.

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Quote from: Solar on September 03, 2012, 08:10:06 AM
We posted about the same moment.
You can expect his response will have nothing to do with our posts, but rather some obscure quote from a mad man pedophile that feared women in the 7th century.

The Koran is not a Religion, but a political way of life, wrapped up in cult fervor.

This will be fun. No sense in getting angry.....................and everyone can learn some facts about the muslim world.

There's such a wealth of information. I figured that the genital mutilation of women would be a good starting point.

Thanks for posting enenn. Lets all go to school and learn some stuff. :wink: