Catholic Priest DENIES Joe Biden the Sacrament of Communion

Started by Rotwang, October 29, 2019, 04:49:36 PM

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cynical1

Quote from: Rotwang on October 29, 2019, 06:31:55 PM
If only there were video of Sleepy Creepy Joe when Father Morey denied him.

I'll bet his eyes were bugging out.

I'm so tired of him.

sleepy is not a bad thing, but corrupt is..

he won't be the nominee and if he is, Trump will squash him

cynical1

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on October 29, 2019, 06:46:28 PM
I was raised a Catholic,  I no longer have faith in "the Church" although I have a strong Faith in God.  One of my issues with Holy Mother Church is the fact They DO NOT condem abortion enough and they tolerate so called Catholic Dem Politicians like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi, both should be excommunicated and condemned by the Pope and the Church alike, but No, the Money hungry Charlatans who run the Church nowadays would kiss the Devils rosy red firey ass for a dime.
there was a time when i would pounce on someone for saying this but sadly.....

sigh..

well, Jesus did tell us that FEW would find the narrow way to Heaven... What he probably should have added (assuming he didn't?) is

VERY few

sorry if that sounds judgmental but i have seen an awful lot of evil in my relatively-speaking long life time...

Rotwang

Quote from: cynical1 on November 09, 2019, 01:04:54 PM
there was a time when i would pounce on someone for saying this but sadly.....

sigh..

well, Jesus did tell us that FEW would find the narrow way to Heaven... What he probably should have added (assuming he didn't?) is

VERY few

sorry if that sounds judgmental but i have seen an awful lot of evil in my relatively-speaking long life time...

That's pretty much what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, isn't it ?

I suppose that is why many people find atheism reassuring.

No afterlife is better than an awful one.

T Hunt

Quote from: Rotwang on November 08, 2019, 08:06:57 PM
I like to think that every human being has Original Sin, and is flawed. Still, all will get to Heaven - eventually.

But here is what is necessary:

God will weigh the good you have done - OF YOUR OWN FREE WILL - against the evil.

If your evil outweighs the good, the remedy is both simple and fair.

You will relive the evil you have done to others - then Heaven will be open.

Hopefully, my wait will be short - and Stalin's will be lengthy.

Someimes I wonder if when we die we are in some kind of limbo until judgment day and then go to heaven or hell. But then I remember the pastor at my fathers funeral quoted a passage from jesus on the cross. There were two thieves(or criminals of some kind) being crucified with him...

LUKE
39One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: "Aren't you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!"

40But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? 41We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."

42Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. d "

43Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."

From a science fiction stand point, if the supernatural and God are in some kind of 4th dimension that exists outside of TIME (total speculation here) then it is kinda irrelevant whether there is any wait time.




Another parable which applies is the one about the workers. Back in that day there was alot of men who didnt have steady employment but were just day laborers. They wld wait in the market and potential employers wld come and hire them for the day...

MATTHEW
1"For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. 2He agreed to pay them a denarius a for the day and sent them into his vineyard.

3"About nine in the morning he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. 4He told them, 'You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.' 5So they went.

"He went out again about noon and about three in the afternoon and did the same thing.6About five in the afternoon he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, 'Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?'

7" 'Because no one has hired us,' they answered.

"He said to them, 'You also go and work in my vineyard.'

8"When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, 'Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.'

9"The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. 10So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius.11When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. 12'These who were hired last worked only one hour,' they said, 'and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.'

13"But he answered one of them, 'I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn't you agree to work for a denarius? 14Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15Don't I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?'

16"So the last will be first, and the first will be last."


The point being that there will be Christians who think that since they have been better people that they deserve heaven but that someone who converted on their deathbed after a life of sin shouldn't go to heaven. But the parable shows that God is the creator and owner of us all and if he decides to show even the worst sinner grace than so be it. Who are we to argue with our creator. But it is comforting because even if your evil outweighs your good your still in.
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

T Hunt

Quote from: Rotwang on November 08, 2019, 08:06:57 PM
I like to think that every human being has Original Sin, and is flawed. Still, all will get to Heaven - eventually.

But here is what is necessary:

God will weigh the good you have done - OF YOUR OWN FREE WILL - against the evil.

If your evil outweighs the good, the remedy is both simple and fair.

You will relive the evil you have done to others - then Heaven will be open.

Hopefully, my wait will be short - and Stalin's will be lengthy.

The libs really hate that concept of original sin. The idea that you are born one way and dont even have a chance to be perfect. But if you consider that sin=imperfection than it makes sense. No one is born (or concieved) perfect. Everyone has some sort of imperfection about them and thus "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" "be perfect for I the lord your God am perfect."

But that is just the law, only one half of the equation. The other half is the gospel.

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast. "
"Let's Go Brandon, I agree!"  -Biden

Rotwang

Quote from: T Hunt on November 10, 2019, 02:06:17 AM
Someimes I wonder if when we die we are in some kind of limbo until judgment day and then go to heaven or hell. But then I remember the pastor at my fathers funeral quoted a passage from jesus on the cross. There were two thieves(or criminals of some kind) being crucified with him...

LUKE
39One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: "Aren't you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!"

40But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? 41We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."

42Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. d "

43Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."

From a science fiction stand point, if the supernatural and God are in some kind of 4th dimension that exists outside of TIME (total speculation here) then it is kinda irrelevant whether there is any wait time.




Another parable which applies is the one about the workers. Back in that day there was alot of men who didnt have steady employment but were just day laborers. They wld wait in the market and potential employers wld come and hire them for the day...

MATTHEW
1"For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. 2He agreed to pay them a denarius a for the day and sent them into his vineyard.

3"About nine in the morning he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. 4He told them, 'You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.' 5So they went.

"He went out again about noon and about three in the afternoon and did the same thing.6About five in the afternoon he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, 'Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?'

7" 'Because no one has hired us,' they answered.

"He said to them, 'You also go and work in my vineyard.'

8"When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, 'Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.'

9"The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. 10So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius.11When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. 12'These who were hired last worked only one hour,' they said, 'and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.'

13"But he answered one of them, 'I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn't you agree to work for a denarius? 14Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15Don't I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?'

16"So the last will be first, and the first will be last."


The point being that there will be Christians who think that since they have been better people that they deserve heaven but that someone who converted on their deathbed after a life of sin shouldn't go to heaven. But the parable shows that God is the creator and owner of us all and if he decides to show even the worst sinner grace than so be it. Who are we to argue with our creator. But it is comforting because even if your evil outweighs your good your still in.

I remember that parable.

It mirrors the Prodigal Son, where the Father is actually HAPPIER for the son who sinned and then returned and begged forgiveness, than he is for the son who never left - but for years always served his father well.

It certainly is counterintuitive ! And never seemed fair to me.

But it is the way of the Lord as explained by Jesus.




cynical1

Quote from: Rotwang on November 09, 2019, 06:04:38 PM
That's pretty much what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, isn't it ?

I suppose that is why many people find atheism reassuring.

No afterlife is better than an awful one.
the JWs may think only they are going to any paradise (not sure t hey believe in Heaven--?) but they do not believe in Hell much less an eternal Hell. They think evil people just die and that's the end of them.

That does not make a lick of sense. If people do evil all their lives, not giving a rip how their evil hurts people.. and all they do is die (cease to exist), where is the JUSTICE?

You don't have to be Christian to believe in justice  and if you believe in Justice, you just know there is justice in the next life bc there sure as hell is NOT justice in this one...   

drifter106

Quote from: TrumpTrain on April 30, 2020, 07:47:35 AM

You are correct, and more than that:

Since Biden (and Pelosi, and John Kerry, and more) have continued this "evil" for decades when they are well aware that what they are doing is wrong, they really need to be excommunicated.






And why hasn't that been done????  Nobody who has the authority to that has the gonads to stand up to it.  Can you imagine the blow back from such a thing.