Can you accept that Man is greater than God?

Started by Gnostic Bishop, September 04, 2017, 01:20:45 PM

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Gnostic Bishop

Can you accept that Man is greater than God?

We can think. God cannot.
We can reproduce true. God cannot.
We can have many children. God cannot.
We place the lives of our wives and families above our own. God does not.
We would cure instead of kill. God kills.
We do not torture babies. God does.
We believe in freedom. God does not.
Jesus does which is why he took the judgement seat from His Father.

You can continue to adore a God inferior to you, both intellectually and morally, or become a Gnostic Christian or Karaite Jew like Jesus was. Jesus the Good as the Chrestians used to call him before Christianity reared it's ugly head by reading their myths literally and embrace their God of War.

Islam would be a better religion today if that had not forced Mohammad to change from a loving God to a God or War so as to fight fire with fire. Thanks Christians for Islam. Pardon the digression.

Jesus shows the way with his advice to seek God by closeting yourself. Are you ready to follow Jesus or will you stick with your lying priests, preachers, Rabbi's and Imams?

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

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DL

Solar

For, without God, you would not exist. Kind of throws your whole warped religion out the window.
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Quote from: Solar on September 04, 2017, 01:25:05 PM
For, without God, you would not exist. Kind of throws your whole warped religion out the window.

Without man, God would not exist.

Kind of throws your whole warped religion out the window, along with your satanic morals that make Christianity a homophobic and misogynous religion.

What is it that you like about your genocidal son murdering Yahweh?


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Quote from: Gnostic Bishop on September 04, 2017, 01:32:01 PM
Without man, God would not exist.

Kind of throws your whole warped religion out the window, along with your satanic morals that make Christianity a homophobic and misogynous religion.

What is it that you like about your genocidal son murdering Yahweh?
God created man, or is that not part of your religion.
And what gives you the idea I'm a Christian?
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Quote from: Solar on September 04, 2017, 01:34:17 PM
God created man, or is that not part of your religion.
And what gives you the idea I'm a Christian?

Your first reply seemed as brain dead as what a Christian would give.

Apologies if you have some other creator type supernatural God.

I am a Gnostic Christian and we have our own view of God. It is more as shown by these quotes.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

A more thorough explanation is linked here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

Regards
DL

Solar

Quote from: Gnostic Bishop on September 04, 2017, 01:40:24 PM
Your first reply seemed as brain dead as what a Christian would give.

Apologies if you have some other creator type supernatural God.

I am a Gnostic Christian and we have our own view of God. It is more as shown by these quotes.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

A more thorough explanation is linked here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

Regards
DL
There's your problem, you quote a Christian bible, yet claim God is evil?
I'd say someone has an identity crisis.
And no, I have no interest in watching a video.
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If you see Yahweh, a genocidal son murderer as good, then your morals are as corrupted as any good Christian.

A good God cures, he does not kill.

Regards
DL

Solar

Quote from: Gnostic Bishop on September 04, 2017, 02:06:40 PM
If you see Yahweh, a genocidal son murderer as good, then your morals are as corrupted as any good Christian.

A good God cures, he does not kill.

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DL
God gave us free will, last I checked, it was man murdering the unborn, not God.
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Quote from: Solar on September 04, 2017, 02:11:06 PM
God gave us free will, last I checked, it was man murdering the unborn, not God.

Oh my. Man created Noah's flood.

Wow, we are some powerful.

Regards
DL


Solar

Quote from: Gnostic Bishop on September 04, 2017, 02:17:27 PM
Oh my. Man created Noah's flood.

Wow, we are some powerful.

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DL
Were you there? Can you prove God flooded the earth? Or are you taking that out of that evil Christian bible again, the religion you claim is a lie?
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Quote from: Solar on September 04, 2017, 02:24:03 PM
Were you there? Can you prove God flooded the earth? Or are you taking that out of that evil Christian bible again, the religion you claim is a lie?

This is all a critique of the bible, yes.

I do not think a book of myths can be said to be lying unless one is fool enough to read it literally.

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DL


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Quote from: Gnostic Bishop on September 04, 2017, 02:34:48 PM
This is all a critique of the bible, yes.

I do not think a book of myths can be said to be lying unless one is fool enough to read it literally.

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DL
Yet it was you, not I, that was using it in evidence of your ridiculous point.
Troll, go away, your bull shit is neither contributive nor welcome with people that actually believe in God.
I myself, am walking proof that God exists, my very existence is proof of a loving God, and no, I have no reason to try and convince you of this fact, because, the fact that you don't believe, is evidence you're nothing but an atheist.
God is there, take the time to talk to him, I do, every day.
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Quote from: Solar on September 04, 2017, 03:41:01 PM
Yet it was you, not I, that was using it in evidence of your ridiculous point.
Troll, go away, your bull shit is neither contributive nor welcome with people that actually believe in God.
I myself, am walking proof that God exists, my very existence is proof of a loving God, and no, I have no reason to try and convince you of this fact, because, the fact that you don't believe, is evidence you're nothing but an atheist.
God is there, take the time to talk to him, I do, every day.

Better an atheist than one who has gone into intellectual and especially moral dissonance.

Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

Regards
DL



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Quote from: Gnostic Bishop on September 04, 2017, 04:01:10 PM
Better an atheist than one who has gone into intellectual and especially moral dissonance.

Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

Regards
DL
Oh, I get it, your religion is "The only True Religion"  :rolleyes:.

Go away troll, it's not the religion, it's the individuals' faith that matters, not the label one claims under the guise of religion.
The fact that you group all believers of a given religion as heretics, exposes you for the fraud you are.
Worship your dead God all you like, it all comes out in the end.

I see you bailed on your ridiculous thread in the Poli forum because you got your ass handed to you, yet here you are, looking for more beat down?
Take your bloody clothes and leave now, before I really tear you a new ass.
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Quote from: Gnostic Bishop on September 04, 2017, 01:20:45 PM
Can you accept that Man is greater than God?

We can think. God cannot.
We can reproduce true. God cannot.
We can have many children. God cannot.
We place the lives of our wives and families above our own. God does not.
We would cure instead of kill. God kills.
We do not torture babies. God does.
We believe in freedom. God does not.
Jesus does which is why he took the judgement seat from His Father.

You can continue to adore a God inferior to you, both intellectually and morally, or become a Gnostic Christian or Karaite Jew like Jesus was. Jesus the Good as the Chrestians used to call him before Christianity reared it's ugly head by reading their myths literally and embrace their God of War.

Islam would be a better religion today if that had not forced Mohammad to change from a loving God to a God or War so as to fight fire with fire. Thanks Christians for Islam. Pardon the digression.

Jesus shows the way with his advice to seek God by closeting yourself. Are you ready to follow Jesus or will you stick with your lying priests, preachers, Rabbi's and Imams?

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

What a bunch of nonsenses and ignorance. In the beginning, mankind lived in harmony with God, the Creator, and the Earth was Paradise, there was no death, there were no crimes, there was plenty of food and love for everyone, etc. And God had explicitly warned Adam not to taste the fruits from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, because if he tastes it - he will die!

Genesis 2:16-17

The LORD God commanded the man, saying, "From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die."

Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

http://biblehub.com/genesis/2-17.htm

Adam showed disobedience to God when tasting the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, in spite of the fact that he was warned that he will die if he does so! But God still had love and mercy upon mankind, he spared us in spite of our disobedience, and he gifted us a new chance to repent for our original sin and become obedient to him once again, so that we don't die, but have eternal life just like it was meant to be before we chose death when committing our original sin. That is why Jesus needed to die and to be resurrected, because mankind deserved to die, but those who believe in Jesus shall be saved.

The Creation is not greater than the Creator. The Creator is the master of his Creation. Only the Creator is able to cure and fix his Creation, and the Creation is helpless without the Creator.
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