Can you accept that Man is greater than God?

[supsalemgr]

Do we have a 20 year old living in his mom's basement and believing the ungodly teachers he has experienced?

[Solar]

Do we have a 20 year old living in his mom's basement and believing the ungodly teachers he has experienced?

Twenty? You're way too kind.

[Gnostic Bishop]

Oh, I get it, your religion is "The only True Religion"  .

Go away troll, it's not the religion, it's the individuals' faith that matters, not the label one claims under the guise of religion.
The fact that you group all believers of a given religion as heretics, exposes you for the fraud you are.
Worship your dead God all you like, it all comes out in the end.

I see you bailed on your ridiculous thread in the Poli forum because you got your ass handed to you, yet here you are, looking for more beat down?
Take your bloody clothes and leave now, before I really tear you a new ass.

Your history lessons must have missed that Gnostic Christians were branded as heretics. We did not brand any cults that way since we are universalists.

You are correct in that individual faith is all that maters and that is what we sell.

I will let you go away though. Those who declare themselves winners of debates when they should be trying to lose them and learn something are not worth my time.

BTW, there is no true religion. Just methods for personal enlightenment. But ypou are already the great winner and do not need any of that.

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Bishop]

What a bunch of nonsenses and ignorance. In the beginning, mankind lived in harmony with God, the Creator, and the Earth was Paradise, there was no death, there were no crimes, there was plenty of food and love for everyone, etc. And God had explicitly warned Adam not to taste the fruits from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, because if he tastes it - he will die!

Genesis 2:16-17

The LORD God commanded the man, saying, "From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die."

Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

http://biblehub.com/genesis/2-17.htm

Adam showed disobedience to God when tasting the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, in spite of the fact that he was warned that he will die if he does so! But God still had love and mercy upon mankind, he spared us in spite of our disobedience, and he gifted us a new chance to repent for our original sin and become obedient to him once again, so that we don't die, but have eternal life just like it was meant to be before we chose death when committing our original sin. That is why Jesus needed to die and to be resurrected, because mankind deserved to die, but those who believe in Jesus shall be saved.

The Creation is not greater than the Creator. The Creator is the master of his Creation. Only the Creator is able to cure and fix his Creation, and the Creation is helpless without the Creator.

So many unqualified assumptions of a God and history that you and no one else can possibly know.

Start by lying less.

Genesis 2:16-17 The LORD God commanded the man, saying, "From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die."

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Firstly, only a fool would think that nature had a time without death.

As to what you quoted.

Use modern language and note how God is forbidding his new children from educating themselves.

Is that horrible way of child rearing something you would advocate?

If you do not and have more intelligence that your idiot genocidal son murdering God then you show that your morals and methods are better than your prick of a God.

Take a bow, or remain with your head up your imaginary God's ---.

BTW, Jews who wrote Genesis saw it as man's elevation before the stupid Christian notion of education being a bad thing.

You won't bother educating yourself but I will put the following for those who can think.

"Instead of the Fall of man (in the sense of humanity as a whole), Judaism preaches the Rise of man: and instead of Original Sin, it stresses Original Virtue, the beneficent hereditary influence of righteous ancestors upon their descendants".

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/10/20/comparative-theodicy/

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Bishop]

Do we have a 20 year old living in his mom's basement and believing the ungodly teachers he has experienced?

Attacking the messenger instead of the message shows just who is living where.

Thanks for showing us the kind of mind you have.

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt

Regards
DL

[supsalemgr]

Attacking the messenger instead of the message shows just who is living where.

Thanks for showing us the kind of mind you have.

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt

Regards
DL

I was asking a question and you answered it.

[Solar]

Your history lessons must have missed that Gnostic Christians were branded as heretics. We did not brand any cults that way since we are universalists.

Oh good God, every religion claims others as heretics when they branch off and start a new.
You are correct in that individual faith is all that maters and that is what we sell.

I will let you go away though. Those who declare themselves winners of debates when they should be trying to lose them and learn something are not worth my time.

BTW, there is no true religion. Just methods for personal enlightenment. But ypou are already the great winner and do not need any of that.

Regards
DL

ROFL!!! So you claim a win by default because I handed your ass to you? That's rich!
It was your arrogance set you on the losing path from the very start, claiming all other religions worship false Gods, yet your's worships a dead one, a new twist on atheism, or rather, lack of faith.

Take your bull shit somewhere else, this forum is for people of faith, not people of doubt.

By the way, religion is not God.

[Gnostic Bishop]

Oh good God, every religion claims others as heretics when they branch off and start a new.
You are correct in that individual faith is all that maters and that is what we sell.
ROFL!!! So you claim a win by default because I handed your ass to you? That's rich!
It was your arrogance set you on the losing path from the very start, claiming all other religions worship false Gods, yet your's worships a dead one, a new twist on atheism, or rather, lack of faith.

Take your bull shit somewhere else, this forum is for people of faith, not people of doubt.

By the way, religion is not God.

Faith not built on facts is for fools.

Regards
DL

[walkstall]

Faith not built on facts is for fools.

Regards
DL

Me thinks his mother was an ex-nun.    

[Gnostic Bishop]

Me thinks his mother was an ex-nun.   

Given his language, an ex-nun with a foul mouth.

Regards
DL

[Solar]

Faith not built on facts is for fools.

Regards
DL

Oh Jeeez, Faith is based on the absence of any tangible item/fact. Faith is the epitome of the absence of proof.
And that has absolutely nothing to do with religion, that's a known FACT!
You have faith your God is dead, yet can't produce one fact to back it up.

[Gnostic Bishop]

Oh Jeeez, Faith is based on the absence of any tangible item/fact. Faith is the epitome of the absence of proof.
And that has absolutely nothing to do with religion, that's a known FACT!
You have faith your God is dead, yet can't produce one fact to back it up.

??

Faith is a religious staple.

??

My God is not dead.

Show us your knowledge and tell us what we Gnostic Christians call our God and why.

This might help.

Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

Regards
DL

[Solar]

Faith is a religious staple.

You are all over the freakin map!
Your words.

Faith not built on facts is for fools.

Prove it, show me facts, prove your God is alive and well!

My God is not dead.

Yet your OP, in the very first line:

We can think. God cannot.

If he can't think, he is dead.

[taxed]

You are all over the freakin map!
Your words.Prove it, show me facts, prove your God is alive and well!Yet your OP, in the very first line:

If he can't think, he is dead.

Has he gotten to Darwin yet, or should I come back later?

[Solar]

Has he gotten to Darwin yet, or should I come back later?

Depends if it helps his cause at the moment, then yes, he'll support Darwin, only to turn around and claim he's now against Darwinism.
The boy is all over the map.