Boy Scouts set to end ban on gay members

Started by Solar, April 19, 2013, 09:26:59 AM

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Solar

How can these people do this, destroy more than 100 years of Christian tradition?
I imagine the answer is, the fags have infected the board of directors.
It's not final, but we know they're Hell bent on destroying the organization. Divide and conquer, it's how the left works.

(Reuters) - The Boy Scouts of America called to end a long-standing ban on openly gay members, a spokesman said on Friday, but the organization's board must still vote in May on whether to ratify the resolution.

If the vote is approved, "no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone," Deron Smith, the organization's spokesman, told Reuters.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/04/19/us-usa-boyscouts-ban-idINBRE93I0OY20130419

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Baby steps.

I can already see the lawsuit coming, when a gay youth wants to become a gay scout leader in adulthood.

walkstall

Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2013, 09:26:59 AM
How can these people do this, destroy more than 100 years of Christian tradition?
I imagine the answer is, the fags have infected the board of directors.
It's not final, but we know they're Hell bent on destroying the organization. Divide and conquer, it's how the left works.

(Reuters) - The Boy Scouts of America called to end a long-standing ban on openly gay members, a spokesman said on Friday, but the organization's board must still vote in May on whether to ratify the resolution.

If the vote is approved, "no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone," Deron Smith, the organization's spokesman, told Reuters.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/04/19/us-usa-boyscouts-ban-idINBRE93I0OY20130419

Sooooo.... what will the call himself?? 

Next step, hello girls welcome to the American Unisex club.  :rolleyes: 
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Darth Fife

Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2013, 09:26:59 AM
How can these people do this, destroy more than 100 years of Christian tradition?
I imagine the answer is, the fags have infected the board of directors.
It's not final, but we know they're Hell bent on destroying the organization. Divide and conquer, it's how the left works.

(Reuters) - The Boy Scouts of America called to end a long-standing ban on openly gay members, a spokesman said on Friday, but the organization's board must still vote in May on whether to ratify the resolution.

If the vote is approved, "no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone," Deron Smith, the organization's spokesman, told Reuters.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/04/19/us-usa-boyscouts-ban-idINBRE93I0OY20130419

It is simple, really.

The Boy Scouts have had to face reality. Either they admit gays, or the will be sued out of existence.

It's not a pleasant reality to face, nor is it right. But, it is the way things are in this day and age.

The same thing will start happening to the mainstream Christian churches. They will be forced to end their prohibition against homosexuality and be forced to perform homosexual marriages or they will be sued out of existence.

That is what the movement for so-called gay rights is all about - destroying the tradition American institutions of home, family and marriage.

Anyone who tells you different is either stupid or lying.

-Darth

Solar

Quote from: Darth Fife on May 24, 2013, 04:51:07 PM
It is simple, really.

The Boy Scouts have had to face reality. Either they admit gays, or the will be sued out of existence.

It's not a pleasant reality to face, nor is it right. But, it is the way things are in this day and age.

The same thing will start happening to the mainstream Christian churches. They will be forced to end their prohibition against homosexuality and be forced to perform homosexual marriages or they will be sued out of existence.

That is what the movement for so-called gay rights is all about - destroying the tradition American institutions of home, family and marriage.

Anyone who tells you different is either stupid or lying.

-Darth
Wrong!!! You are willing to surrender, I am not, and neither should the boy Scouts.
Unfortunately a few are CINOS Christian in name only, or Conservative in name only, and caned in claiming it's the "fair thing to do.
If you are so certain this is the right thing to do out of fear, then why is their talk of starting a straights only scouts club?
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Actually, I think Darth made an excellent point, though I don't think he was trying to do so.  :tounge:

The thing that places such immense power in the hands of just a tiny percentage of our people is not the press, not advocacy groups, not superior organization... but the bizarre legal system this country has constructed and now suffers as an affliction.

When a woman can sue McDonald's and WIN because her coffee was hot (WHAT?!) and she was stupid enough to drive a 3,000-lb. car on the public roadways with a cup of the stuff jammed in her crotch, and the predictable happened, we have to acknowledge that something is very wrong.

More to the point, and getting back to what Darth pointed out, if BSA didn't do what they just did, they would indeed be exposed to immense litigation exposure. And let me define that: they would probably get their socks sued off -- UNSUCCESSFULLY. That is, those suing would almost certainly lose. BSA is, at the end of the day, a private organization that is actually free to discriminate in any way they choose. (See: Augusta National Golf Club)

But this ridiculous civil and tort system we've constructed means that BSA would be paying out hundreds of thousands of dollars every time they get sued, not to those seeking damages, but to its own lawyers! That is what "legal exposure" has come to mean now. When a group (an LGBT group, for example) wants to bend another group (BSA, for example) to its will, the threat of lawsuits becomes literally the threat of financial ruin. That's how the game is played.
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Darth Fife

Quote from: Solar on May 24, 2013, 06:10:38 PM
Wrong!!! You are willing to surrender, I am not, and neither should the boy Scouts.
Unfortunately a few are CINOS Christian in name only, or Conservative in name only, and caned in claiming it's the "fair thing to do.
If you are so certain this is the right thing to do out of fear, then why is their talk of starting a straights only scouts club?

It is not I who is surrendering, it is the Boy Scouts.

As a former scout, I've made my opinion known to them. Apparently it fell on deaf ears.

I'm not saying it is the right thing to do. I am saying that the Boy Scouts have made a business decision based on the current political climate. If it were me, I would have closed the entire organization down.

-Darth

kramarat

Quote from: Darth Fife on May 27, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
It is not I who is surrendering, it is the Boy Scouts.

As a former scout, I've made my opinion known to them. Apparently it fell on deaf ears.

I'm not saying it is the right thing to do. I am saying that the Boy Scouts have made a business decision based on the current political climate. If it were me, I would have closed the entire organization down.

-Darth

Sad but true.....it boils down to money.

http://www.thehumanist.org/humanist/articles/bsa.html

Solar

Quote from: Darth Fife on May 27, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
It is not I who is surrendering, it is the Boy Scouts.

As a former scout, I've made my opinion known to them. Apparently it fell on deaf ears.

I'm not saying it is the right thing to do. I am saying that the Boy Scouts have made a business decision based on the current political climate. If it were me, I would have closed the entire organization down.

-Darth
I think they found a fair compromise.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324659404578501650925094878.html
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Quote from: Solar on May 27, 2013, 06:58:44 PM
I think they found a fair compromise.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324659404578501650925094878.html

Hmm.....

QuoteJohn Stemberger, an Orlando lawyer who founded the group OnMyHonor.Net to oppose ending the ban, said at a press conference that the decision was "a travesty." He said the Scouts didn't consider risks to children and lawsuits that he thinks will ensue. His group and others that supported the ban on gays plan to meet next month to discuss the creation of a new youth group.

"This is the last time I wear this uniform," Mr. Stemberger said.
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kramarat

Quote from: Solar on May 27, 2013, 06:58:44 PM
I think they found a fair compromise.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324659404578501650925094878.html

That's no comprimise. We now live in a society, where people that think that same gender sex is wrong, are the bad guys. Call me old fashoined and crazy, but I never thought the scouts had anything to do with sex. Now it does. Not only sex, but male on male sex.

I don't hate gay people, but they really need to stop trying to make us non-gays feel like we're abnormal.

Solar

Quote from: walkstall on May 27, 2013, 07:53:21 PM
Hmm.....
John Stemberger, an Orlando lawyer who founded the group OnMyHonor.Net to oppose ending the ban, said at a press conference that the decision was "a travesty." He said the Scouts didn't consider risks to children and lawsuits that he thinks will ensue. His group and others that supported the ban on gays plan to meet next month to discuss the creation of a new youth group.

"This is the last time I wear this uniform," Mr. Stemberger said.
I agree with him and hope he succeeds beyond his wildest dreams, and I will definitely support them.
I think the Boy Scouts have ulterior motives in getting these confused kids out of an environment that's destroying them and turning their lives around.
The Boy Scouts have an interesting way of making men out of boys.
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Quote from: Darth Fife on May 24, 2013, 04:51:07 PM
The same thing will start happening to the mainstream Christian churches. They will be forced to end their prohibition against homosexuality and be forced to perform homosexual marriages or they will be sued out of existence.

I can guarantee you they will not be sued out of existence.  They may even be made illegal, but they will not cease to exist.

JustKari

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/05/30/5457390/california-senate-votes-to-revoke.html

This is what you call "foot in the door" legislation.  It won't be long before they use this as precident to take tax exempt status from other religious orgs like Sameritans Purse and Salvation Army, then churches.

QuoteEven as the Boy Scouts of America moves to allow gay youths to join its troops, the California Senate on Wednesday passed a bill that would revoke the organization's nonprofit status because it does not permit the participation of openly gay adults.

"They are out of line with the values of California and should be ineligible for a tax benefit paid for by all Californians," Sen. Ricardo Lara, D-Bell Gardens, said as he introduced his bill. "SB 323 brings our laws into line with our values."

The measure calls for revoking the tax-exempt status of youth groups that discriminate against participants on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identification.